Story on twins who died in toy chest

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It seems so weird to me because I have heard of children getting caught like by their neck when heavy lids on toy boxes close, But I've never heard of a kid's suffocating in a wooden box.

Here you go: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna45326

[Anonymous]

I think she is lying

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom's story about how they ended up in the chest which somehow closed while they were sleeping doesn't make any sense to me.

+1

I feel like the dad was watching them and they were wound up and wanted them to sleep so pop them Advil/Benadryl or something like that. They had a bad reaction and it was too late when he found them.

This is the dumbest theory yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom's story about how they ended up in the chest which somehow closed while they were sleeping doesn't make any sense to me.

+1

I feel like the dad was watching them and they were wound up and wanted them to sleep so pop them Advil/Benadryl or something like that. They had a bad reaction and it was too late when he found them.

This is the dumbest theory yet.

DP

Not dumb at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you really not know when you're running out of oxygen if you're asleep? It's not the kind of thing where your body would wake you up bc something is wrong?

This story is freaking me out on multiple levels.

No, you can just die without ever waking up. That's why carbon monoxide poisoning is so dangerous. A person who is sleeping is unlikely to have their body register any of the symptoms and they just die without ever waking up.

2 children actively playing, because that's what they do according to mom, didn't crawl into the box and promptly fall asleep. They would be playing because they were up for the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This story is fishy.

First, that FB post is bananas, reads like a classic liar narrative where the liar embellishes with insane details.

And the story is that the dad and older kids got up on a Friday morning and went outside to play? And the dad never checked on the preschoolers? Who were known to get up and play during the night?

WTF? My kids are teenagers and when I get up before them, I peep into their rooms before heading downstairs. But, with preschoolers, who doesn’t check them?

Also—it was a Friday, the older kids were back in school—so why were they playing outside instead of getting ready and going to school? If the late shift working mom was a late riser, certainly the older kids would have been well into their morning routine, if not already at school.

And who wakes up with their kids and immediately runs outside, no one was eating?

+1 and I don't think the police believe it either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember arguing with my mom over a toy chest and we wound up not buying because she was adamant on danger. Today there was a story on two four year old twins who got up and took their stuffed animals out of toy box and got in and died after falling asleep in it and parents had no idea because it was in their room and found out next day. I thought of my mom and how I told her she was nuts that I would
have things in the chest so not a problem with safety. Please people she was right-don’t have a chest with a lid.

Come on! The very first place anyone would have looked would have been a chest! Not buying this story

Same.
Here are some red flags that stood out to me, and I’m no investigator—
1–moms fb post is so detailed. Why?? She telling too much. I have no doubt she is grieving the loss but it feels different.
2-mom literally crafted every piece of the narrative about how they must have been playing in the middle of night as they often do, pulled most of the toys out of the chest and climbed in together and told each other goodnight (she included that detail as though she were imagining what they would have said to each other), fell asleep, and somehow the lid closed but they were asleep so there was no screaming or crying out for help
3–they looked ALL OVER for them, but in mom’s retelling she said they had removed most of the toys from the chest so wouldn’t you immediately notice that hep of toys upon entering their room? Why wouldn’t you look there first?
And finally….
4. Very important detail in the news story is that the police were called to the home around noon. What?!?! How many 4-year-olds do you know of are unaccounted for between 8am and 10am in a given day? And we’re not even talking 10am…we’re taking NOON.
What the what?!? Are you telling me that it’s normal for the four year old twins to “sleep in” and not be seen or heard from in that house until after 11 or 11:30 in the morning before someone says “gee…where are the twins?”
Something isn’t right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gotta wonder if the older kids put the younger kids in there and this was their way to take blame off them. Just spitballing here.

I had this thought too, and it’s giving JonBenet Ramsey vibes. I wonder if some tragic accident happened (maybe involving hide and seek or a game with the older kids?) and the older kids and dad went outside not thinking anything of it when they didn’t follow. Until they realized too late what had happened.
I guess it’s possible they were just innocently sleeping in there? But that’s just weird for that to be a norm up until sometime just before noon when they called the police.
. But is it also possible that they were stuck in there accidentally and mom didn’t respond to any noises bc she was tired and figure dad’s got this—except he was outside with the other kids. And then they all discover too late what happened? The elaborate tale from mom just feels off.
But either way, it’s very sad for this family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember arguing with my mom over a toy chest and we wound up not buying because she was adamant on danger. Today there was a story on two four year old twins who got up and took their stuffed animals out of toy box and got in and died after falling asleep in it and parents had no idea because it was in their room and found out next day. I thought of my mom and how I told her she was nuts that I would
have things in the chest so not a problem with safety. Please people she was right-don’t have a chest with a lid.

Come on! The very first place anyone would have looked would have been a chest! Not buying this story

Same.
Here are some red flags that stood out to me, and I’m no investigator—
1–moms fb post is so detailed. Why?? She telling too much. I have no doubt she is grieving the loss but it feels different.
2-mom literally crafted every piece of the narrative about how they must have been playing in the middle of night as they often do, pulled most of the toys out of the chest and climbed in together and told each other goodnight (she included that detail as though she were imagining what they would have said to each other), fell asleep, and somehow the lid closed but they were asleep so there was no screaming or crying out for help
3–they looked ALL OVER for them, but in mom’s retelling she said they had removed most of the toys from the chest so wouldn’t you immediately notice that hep of toys upon entering their room? Why wouldn’t you look there first?
And finally….
4. Very important detail in the news story is that the police were called to the home around noon. What?!?! How many 4-year-olds do you know of are unaccounted for between 8am and 10am in a given day? And we’re not even talking 10am…we’re taking NOON.
What the what?!? Are you telling me that it’s normal for the four year old twins to “sleep in” and not be seen or heard from in that house until after 11 or 11:30 in the morning before someone says “gee…where are the twins?”
Something isn’t right.

And why didn’t the older kids go to school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember arguing with my mom over a toy chest and we wound up not buying because she was adamant on danger. Today there was a story on two four year old twins who got up and took their stuffed animals out of toy box and got in and died after falling asleep in it and parents had no idea because it was in their room and found out next day. I thought of my mom and how I told her she was nuts that I would
have things in the chest so not a problem with safety. Please people she was right-don’t have a chest with a lid.

Come on! The very first place anyone would have looked would have been a chest! Not buying this story

Not necessarily. Police didn't even look there in this case: kutv.com/amp/news/local/utah-4-year-old-found-dead-in-his-home-died-from-asphyxiation

[Anonymous]

Does anyone think it's odd that she posted on Facebook at all? Like...if my two children just died I wouldn't be able to stand up, let alone sit down at a computer and make a Facebook post about it.

I know we aren't supposed to "judge" grieving parents, but that fact alone was a red flag to me. How the hell can anyone be any level of functioning within days of something like that happening?

[Anonymous]

People, please read this article and understand that this is a longstanding problem which numerous recalls have failed to fully resolve. Lane made 12 million heirloom quality cedar chests with automatic locks from 1912 until they discontinued them and the vast majority are likely still in circulation, being handed down from generation to generation.

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2014/02/04/reynoldsburg-couple-mourning-daughter-warn/24204981007/

It’s really sad that nobody at Lane in the early 20th century could imagine such an automatic latching system being a death sentence for children. Definitely an argument for more women in the workplace.

[Anonymous]

I’m thinking older sibling told them to hide in there and closed the lid (hide and seek).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom's story about how they ended up in the chest which somehow closed while they were sleeping doesn't make any sense to me.

+1

I feel like the dad was watching them and they were wound up and wanted them to sleep so pop them Advil/Benadryl or something like that. They had a bad reaction and it was too late when he found them.

This is the dumbest theory yet.

DP

Not dumb at all.

It’s dumb…Unlikely both kids had a “bad reaction.” Also, if both kids’ autopsies would show signs of poisoning wouldn’t he just pretend they had accidentally gotten into medicine, not stuffed their bodies in the chest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People, please read this article and understand that this is a longstanding problem which numerous recalls have failed to fully resolve. Lane made 12 million heirloom quality cedar chests with automatic locks from 1912 until they discontinued them and the vast majority are likely still in circulation, being handed down from generation to generation.

https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/2014/02/04/reynoldsburg-couple-mourning-daughter-warn/24204981007/

It’s really sad that nobody at Lane in the early 20th century could imagine such an automatic latching system being a death sentence for children. Definitely an argument for more women in the workplace.

We had these at our house growing up as did my in laws. They were super popular in some parts of the country.