Story on twins who died in toy chest

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I am not going to speculate on what did or did not happen, but they are handling this so poorly. I just feel so sad for their older boys who got shipped away. They SHOULD be able to see their parents grieve, it will help them normalize their own grief. Grief isn't a bad thing, it's normal. They need to see it so they understand that their feelings are okay. I don't understand why she started her FB post with "we'll all get therapy" but then ends with this:

"we are trying soooo hard to not let our boys see us this way. They have been with family for the past week because we don’t want to emotionally scar them seeing us like this, and they need to be away from all the triggers that could cause them to be in our same state"

They don't want their older kids to know they are being investigated by the police.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a freak accident.

https://people.com/4-year-old-twins-die-toy-chest-shut-while-they-were-sleeping-mom-says-7965695

Sounds more like the parents just haven’t been charged yet.

“We are working with our partners at the Medical Examiner’s Office to determine the cause of death," police added. "At this time, we don’t know if this is an accident or if foul play is involved.” No charges have been filed as of Tuesday.”

There is something not right about this story. Or a “sound proof” cedar chest.

+1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They sound pretty neglectful as parents. She comes home after they are all asleep and doesn't wake up until long after they do? The older ones played outside alone before she woke up? And no one checked on the twins? Why does she never mention the dad again? There is no way, even if they do often wake up during the night, that they accidentally fell asleep in a hard wooden box.

I assume she was a shift worker who was working until late at night, then dad got up with the kids in the morning. Who knows if dad and the boys were up for 20 minutes or two hours, but presumably by morning it was too late regardless of how quickly he could have noticed they weren't in their beds. That's not negligence, it's just mom trying not to put blame on the father or the older children. My heart really goes out to the brother that found the twins in the chest. I can only imagine how badly that will haunt him in the future.

Perhaps mom is inventing the narrative that they passed peacefully together in their sleep. Maybe to cover for a sibling that was involved (and to divert accusations that another child was responsible), maybe to try to help the dad not feel responsible for not checking earlier (even if it wouldn't have mattered) or giving them melatonin or Benadryl, or maybe just because she's overwhelmed with the shock and grief and can't fathom them suffering in the end.

I assume an autopsy will determine if they struggled or passed peacefully, and if there were sedatives in their systems. Until then, it feels cruel to speculate on the internet. I hope the family has a good support system that can help mom stop sharing so much online.

Or maybe “they were struggling to breathe and screaming for help while parents were asleep” is slightly more traumatic than “they died happy and peacefully”

[Anonymous]

In a Facebook post, Sadie Myers, the twins' mother, recounts how she and her family found the twins “snuggled up” head to toe inside the cedar toy chest.

What does this mean, snuggled up head to toe? They were lying opposite each other, head of one next to feet of the other?? I find that to be the weirdest detail.

[Anonymous]

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In a Facebook post, Sadie Myers, the twins' mother, recounts how she and her family found the twins “snuggled up” head to toe inside the cedar toy chest.

What does this mean, snuggled up head to toe? They were lying opposite each other, head of one next to feet of the other?? I find that to be the weirdest detail.

Sounds like she’s trying to put a positive spin on horrible deaths of children. How is she even on social media? Disturbing.

[Anonymous]

Yes very strange.Anyone seen the pic of that soundproof, airtight chest or the cops have consficated it?

[Anonymous]

I came across another really sad story where a girl pulled out the drawers in a very heavy and low dresser, managed to pull it on herself and suffocated to death.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember arguing with my mom over a toy chest and we wound up not buying because she was adamant on danger. Today there was a story on two four year old twins who got up and took their stuffed animals out of toy box and got in and died after falling asleep in it and parents had no idea because it was in their room and found out next day. I thought of my mom and how I told her she was nuts that I would
have things in the chest so not a problem with safety. Please people she was right-don’t have a chest with a lid.

Come on! The very first place anyone would have looked would have been a chest! Not buying this story

Not necessarily. Police didn't even look there in this case: kutv.com/amp/news/local/utah-4-year-old-found-dead-in-his-home-died-from-asphyxiation

Holy crap.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember arguing with my mom over a toy chest and we wound up not buying because she was adamant on danger. Today there was a story on two four year old twins who got up and took their stuffed animals out of toy box and got in and died after falling asleep in it and parents had no idea because it was in their room and found out next day. I thought of my mom and how I told her she was nuts that I would
have things in the chest so not a problem with safety. Please people she was right-don’t have a chest with a lid.

Come on! The very first place anyone would have looked would have been a chest! Not buying this story

Same.
Here are some red flags that stood out to me, and I’m no investigator—
1–moms fb post is so detailed. Why?? She telling too much. I have no doubt she is grieving the loss but it feels different.
2-mom literally crafted every piece of the narrative about how they must have been playing in the middle of night as they often do, pulled most of the toys out of the chest and climbed in together and told each other goodnight (she included that detail as though she were imagining what they would have said to each other), fell asleep, and somehow the lid closed but they were asleep so there was no screaming or crying out for help
3–they looked ALL OVER for them, but in mom’s retelling she said they had removed most of the toys from the chest so wouldn’t you immediately notice that hep of toys upon entering their room? Why wouldn’t you look there first?
And finally….
4. Very important detail in the news story is that the police were called to the home around noon. What?!?! How many 4-year-olds do you know of are unaccounted for between 8am and 10am in a given day? And we’re not even talking 10am…we’re taking NOON.
What the what?!? Are you telling me that it’s normal for the four year old twins to “sleep in” and not be seen or heard from in that house until after 11 or 11:30 in the morning before someone says “gee…where are the twins?”
Something isn’t right.

+1

4 is the big one. NOON? I can actually give mom a pass on this because she may have gotten home at 3 am or something and this may be their normal routine... but if dad did mornings... He didn't look for 4 year olds by... 8? 9 at the latest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember arguing with my mom over a toy chest and we wound up not buying because she was adamant on danger. Today there was a story on two four year old twins who got up and took their stuffed animals out of toy box and got in and died after falling asleep in it and parents had no idea because it was in their room and found out next day. I thought of my mom and how I told her she was nuts that I would
have things in the chest so not a problem with safety. Please people she was right-don’t have a chest with a lid.

Come on! The very first place anyone would have looked would have been a chest! Not buying this story

Same.
Here are some red flags that stood out to me, and I’m no investigator—
1–moms fb post is so detailed. Why?? She telling too much. I have no doubt she is grieving the loss but it feels different.
2-mom literally crafted every piece of the narrative about how they must have been playing in the middle of night as they often do, pulled most of the toys out of the chest and climbed in together and told each other goodnight (she included that detail as though she were imagining what they would have said to each other), fell asleep, and somehow the lid closed but they were asleep so there was no screaming or crying out for help
3–they looked ALL OVER for them, but in mom’s retelling she said they had removed most of the toys from the chest so wouldn’t you immediately notice that hep of toys upon entering their room? Why wouldn’t you look there first?
And finally….
4. Very important detail in the news story is that the police were called to the home around noon. What?!?! How many 4-year-olds do you know of are unaccounted for between 8am and 10am in a given day? And we’re not even talking 10am…we’re taking NOON.
What the what?!? Are you telling me that it’s normal for the four year old twins to “sleep in” and not be seen or heard from in that house until after 11 or 11:30 in the morning before someone says “gee…where are the twins?”
Something isn’t right.

+1

4 is the big one. NOON? I can actually give mom a pass on this because she may have gotten home at 3 am or something and this may be their normal routine... but if dad did mornings... He didn't look for 4 year olds by... 8? 9 at the latest?

If my small kids weren’t up by 8/8:30 I’d worry they were sick!