Story on twins who died in toy chest

[Anonymous]

Anonymous[b wrote:]It’s sad nowadays that parents are to blame for something that harms their children.[/b] Unfortunately, with all the horrible stories that causes children to die by the hands of their parents. This is a horrible accident. I have an old cedar chest. I disabled the lock on it for this exact reason when my children were little.
May the parents find peace.

This comment makes zero sense. Parents are responsible for keeping their kids safe. That is very basic 101 parenting. Don't kill or maim your kids!

[Anonymous]

Mom's story about how they ended up in the chest which somehow closed while they were sleeping doesn't make any sense to me.

[Anonymous]

Gotta wonder if the older kids put the younger kids in there and this was their way to take blame off them. Just spitballing here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of that video that was going around a few months ago of two twins tipping over an unsecured dresser onto themselves in their room, presumably during nap time. In both cases I wonder, where the hell were the parents?!? I didn’t sleep train so I’m biased, but Jesus Christ it’s like extreme sleep training to be so disconnected from your kids when they are in their room that you don’t have a monitor, don’t check on them EVER during sleep periods, and are comfortable being so far away from them while they’re sleeping that you couldn’t even hear them screaming for their lives. It’s just totally unfathomable to me.

I mean, I don't check on my toddler during nap or use a monitor. He's asleep and I'm nearby. That said, that is why the dressers in the kids room are secured to the wall.

I don't check on my kids during naps either. 2 of my 3 kids were such light sleepers that if I peaked in on them, they'd wake up and scream/cry. A few times of waking them up and I learned my lesson. I do check on my kids right before I go to bed though.

I still used monitors. And I didn’t even have the type of kid who would get up and mess around in their room. How many kids did this woman have???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mom's story about how they ended up in the chest which somehow closed while they were sleeping doesn't make any sense to me.

Right? It is much more likely that they were playing in there and they either intentionally closed the lid or it shut while they were moving about. Versus mom’s story that they were peacefully sleeping and one of the girls accidentally kicked the chest in her sleep (huh?) which caused the lid to shut.

But I do understand why she’d want to believe her version of events.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom's story about how they ended up in the chest which somehow closed while they were sleeping doesn't make any sense to me.

Right? It is much more likely that they were playing in there and they either intentionally closed the lid or it shut while they were moving about. Versus mom’s story that they were peacefully sleeping and one of the girls accidentally kicked the chest in her sleep (huh?) which caused the lid to shut.

But I do understand why she’d want to believe her version of events.

Mom needs to just stop talking. Why are there so many details of her fictionalized version of what might have happened out there? Who is she talking to in her time of grief to be sharing so much? This is weird.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of that video that was going around a few months ago of two twins tipping over an unsecured dresser onto themselves in their room, presumably during nap time. In both cases I wonder, where the hell were the parents?!? I didn’t sleep train so I’m biased, but Jesus Christ it’s like extreme sleep training to be so disconnected from your kids when they are in their room that you don’t have a monitor, don’t check on them EVER during sleep periods, and are comfortable being so far away from them while they’re sleeping that you couldn’t even hear them screaming for their lives. It’s just totally unfathomable to me.

I mean, I don't check on my toddler during nap or use a monitor. He's asleep and I'm nearby. That said, that is why the dressers in the kids room are secured to the wall.

I don't check on my kids during naps either. 2 of my 3 kids were such light sleepers that if I peaked in on them, they'd wake up and scream/cry. A few times of waking them up and I learned my lesson. I do check on my kids right before I go to bed though.

Yeah, but this didnt happen during a nap. I thought it was a very odd detail that the mom said the kids would randomly wake up in the middle of the night play and then fall asleep somewhere random in the room, and it was sometimes hard to find them because there were toys scattered everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mom's story about how they ended up in the chest which somehow closed while they were sleeping doesn't make any sense to me.

+1

I feel like the dad was watching them and they were wound up and wanted them to sleep so pop them Advil/Benadryl or something like that. They had a bad reaction and it was too late when he found them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gotta wonder if the older kids put the younger kids in there and this was their way to take blame off them. Just spitballing here.

Oh no hadn’t thought of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotta wonder if the older kids put the younger kids in there and this was their way to take blame off them. Just spitballing here.

Oh no hadn’t thought of that.

Might also explain why they sent the older kids away with relatives.

[Anonymous]

They sound pretty neglectful as parents. She comes home after they are all asleep and doesn't wake up until long after they do? The older ones played outside alone before she woke up? And no one checked on the twins? Why does she never mention the dad again? There is no way, even if they do often wake up during the night, that they accidentally fell asleep in a hard wooden box.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They sound pretty neglectful as parents. She comes home after they are all asleep and doesn't wake up until long after they do? The older ones played outside alone before she woke up? And no one checked on the twins? Why does she never mention the dad again? There is no way, even if they do often wake up during the night, that they accidentally fell asleep in a hard wooden box.

I assume she was a shift worker who was working until late at night, then dad got up with the kids in the morning. Who knows if dad and the boys were up for 20 minutes or two hours, but presumably by morning it was too late regardless of how quickly he could have noticed they weren't in their beds. That's not negligence, it's just mom trying not to put blame on the father or the older children. My heart really goes out to the brother that found the twins in the chest. I can only imagine how badly that will haunt him in the future.

Perhaps mom is inventing the narrative that they passed peacefully together in their sleep. Maybe to cover for a sibling that was involved (and to divert accusations that another child was responsible), maybe to try to help the dad not feel responsible for not checking earlier (even if it wouldn't have mattered) or giving them melatonin or Benadryl, or maybe just because she's overwhelmed with the shock and grief and can't fathom them suffering in the end.

I assume an autopsy will determine if they struggled or passed peacefully, and if there were sedatives in their systems. Until then, it feels cruel to speculate on the internet. I hope the family has a good support system that can help mom stop sharing so much online.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gotta wonder if the older kids put the younger kids in there and this was their way to take blame off them. Just spitballing here.

Oh no hadn’t thought of that.

Might also explain why they sent the older kids away with relatives.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They sound pretty neglectful as parents. She comes home after they are all asleep and doesn't wake up until long after they do? The older ones played outside alone before she woke up? And no one checked on the twins? Why does she never mention the dad again? There is no way, even if they do often wake up during the night, that they accidentally fell asleep in a hard wooden box.

This is a classist response. She's a restaurant manager. She may get home quite late and Dad does bedtime and mornings.

[Anonymous]

Drill holes in any chest like that you have in the house.