Story on twins who died in toy chest

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of that video that was going around a few months ago of two twins tipping over an unsecured dresser onto themselves in their room, presumably during nap time. In both cases I wonder, where the hell were the parents?!? I didn’t sleep train so I’m biased, but Jesus Christ it’s like extreme sleep training to be so disconnected from your kids when they are in their room that you don’t have a monitor, don’t check on them EVER during sleep periods, and are comfortable being so far away from them while they’re sleeping that you couldn’t even hear them screaming for their lives. It’s just totally unfathomable to me.

It took me years of parenting to realize what I considered minimal, bare bones parenting responsibilities, other parents found to be optional or unnecessary. It was eye opening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I remember arguing with my mom over a toy chest and we wound up not buying because she was adamant on danger. Today there was a story on two four year old twins who got up and took their stuffed animals out of toy box and got in and died after falling asleep in it and parents had no idea because it was in their room and found out next day. I thought of my mom and how I told her she was nuts that I would
have things in the chest so not a problem with safety. Please people she was right-don’t have a chest with a lid.

Parents should have checked before the next day! How did they not give them a bath, read them a story and put them to bed? So it isn't the toy boxes fault but the neglectful parents. Also, twins means two so no need for saying two twins. Either say two or twins, not both!

Did you read the article? Dad put the kids to bed, Mom checked on them when she got home later in the night from work, and when Mom woke up the next day, she went to the backyard and realized the twins weren't there. Dad should've figured out what happened earlier in the morning (or at least realized the twins were missing).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of that video that was going around a few months ago of two twins tipping over an unsecured dresser onto themselves in their room, presumably during nap time. In both cases I wonder, where the hell were the parents?!? I didn’t sleep train so I’m biased, but Jesus Christ it’s like extreme sleep training to be so disconnected from your kids when they are in their room that you don’t have a monitor, don’t check on them EVER during sleep periods, and are comfortable being so far away from them while they’re sleeping that you couldn’t even hear them screaming for their lives. It’s just totally unfathomable to me.

Yes, sleep training means ignoring your kids while they suffocate to death

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of that video that was going around a few months ago of two twins tipping over an unsecured dresser onto themselves in their room, presumably during nap time. In both cases I wonder, where the hell were the parents?!? I didn’t sleep train so I’m biased, but Jesus Christ it’s like extreme sleep training to be so disconnected from your kids when they are in their room that you don’t have a monitor, don’t check on them EVER during sleep periods, and are comfortable being so far away from them while they’re sleeping that you couldn’t even hear them screaming for their lives. It’s just totally unfathomable to me.

My brother and I did this when we were 5. Mom rescued us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a freak accident.

https://people.com/4-year-old-twins-die-toy-chest-shut-while-they-were-sleeping-mom-says-7965695

Sounds more like the parents just haven’t been charged yet.

“We are working with our partners at the Medical Examiner’s Office to determine the cause of death," police added. "At this time, we don’t know if this is an accident or if foul play is involved.” No charges have been filed as of Tuesday.”

There is something not right about this story. Or a “sound proof” cedar chest.

Their GoFundMe has already raised $20,000.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of that video that was going around a few months ago of two twins tipping over an unsecured dresser onto themselves in their room, presumably during nap time. In both cases I wonder, where the hell were the parents?!? I didn’t sleep train so I’m biased, but Jesus Christ it’s like extreme sleep training to be so disconnected from your kids when they are in their room that you don’t have a monitor, don’t check on them EVER during sleep periods, and are comfortable being so far away from them while they’re sleeping that you couldn’t even hear them screaming for their lives. It’s just totally unfathomable to me.

Read before you post?

There was no screaming, because according to the story, they fell asleep.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a freak accident.

https://people.com/4-year-old-twins-die-toy-chest-shut-while-they-were-sleeping-mom-says-7965695

Sounds more like the parents just haven’t been charged yet.

“We are working with our partners at the Medical Examiner’s Office to determine the cause of death," police added. "At this time, we don’t know if this is an accident or if foul play is involved.” No charges have been filed as of Tuesday.”

There is something not right about this story. Or a “sound proof” cedar chest.

The real Amish cedar hope chests are meant to be completely air tight and not have any cracks or spaces at all (so moisture and moths can’t get in to your heirlooms) in addition to being really dense and heavy so I’m guessing they are pretty soundproof. And you’d lose consciousness from lack of oxygen pretty quickly since they are airtight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a freak accident.

https://people.com/4-year-old-twins-die-toy-chest-shut-while-they-were-sleeping-mom-says-7965695

Sounds more like the parents just haven’t been charged yet.

“We are working with our partners at the Medical Examiner’s Office to determine the cause of death," police added. "At this time, we don’t know if this is an accident or if foul play is involved.” No charges have been filed as of Tuesday.”

There is something not right about this story. Or a “sound proof” cedar chest.

The real Amish cedar hope chests are meant to be completely air tight and not have any cracks or spaces at all (so moisture and moths can’t get in to your heirlooms) in addition to being really dense and heavy so I’m guessing they are pretty soundproof. And you’d lose consciousness from lack of oxygen pretty quickly since they are airtight.

Yes, I have no trouble believing this was a tragic accident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This reminds me of that video that was going around a few months ago of two twins tipping over an unsecured dresser onto themselves in their room, presumably during nap time. In both cases I wonder, where the hell were the parents?!? I didn’t sleep train so I’m biased, but Jesus Christ it’s like extreme sleep training to be so disconnected from your kids when they are in their room that you don’t have a monitor, don’t check on them EVER during sleep periods, and are comfortable being so far away from them while they’re sleeping that you couldn’t even hear them screaming for their lives. It’s just totally unfathomable to me.

I mean, I don't check on my toddler during nap or use a monitor. He's asleep and I'm nearby. That said, that is why the dressers in the kids room are secured to the wall.

[Anonymous]

The news story suggests that the kids got up in the night frequently to play with one another. If that's the case, the parents should have made sure the room was completely babyproofed. But it wouldn't be surprising that busy parents with two older kids assumed 4yos weren't at huge risk in their own bedrooms. It's a horrible tragedy, and I'm not a fan of GoFundMes in general. But it's good that they're talking about it, maybe it will make another family look twice at their babyproofing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a freak accident.

https://people.com/4-year-old-twins-die-toy-chest-shut-while-they-were-sleeping-mom-says-7965695

Sounds more like the parents just haven’t been charged yet.

“We are working with our partners at the Medical Examiner’s Office to determine the cause of death," police added. "At this time, we don’t know if this is an accident or if foul play is involved.” No charges have been filed as of Tuesday.”

There is something not right about this story. Or a “sound proof” cedar chest.

The real Amish cedar hope chests are meant to be completely air tight and not have any cracks or spaces at all (so moisture and moths can’t get in to your heirlooms) in addition to being really dense and heavy so I’m guessing they are pretty soundproof. And you’d lose consciousness from lack of oxygen pretty quickly since they are airtight.

There’s nothing in the article that says it’s an Amish hope chest. And wood is not sound proof.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a freak accident.

https://people.com/4-year-old-twins-die-toy-chest-shut-while-they-were-sleeping-mom-says-7965695

Sounds more like the parents just haven’t been charged yet.

“We are working with our partners at the Medical Examiner’s Office to determine the cause of death," police added. "At this time, we don’t know if this is an accident or if foul play is involved.” No charges have been filed as of Tuesday.”

There is something not right about this story. Or a “sound proof” cedar chest.

The real Amish cedar hope chests are meant to be completely air tight and not have any cracks or spaces at all (so moisture and moths can’t get in to your heirlooms) in addition to being really dense and heavy so I’m guessing they are pretty soundproof. And you’d lose consciousness from lack of oxygen pretty quickly since they are airtight.

There’s nothing in the article that says it’s an Amish hope chest. And wood is not sound proof.

She calls it an “old wooden cedar chest.” These have been known for years to be unsafe for kids unless the lock is taken out. We got an antique one to put in our foyer for backpacks etc. when our kids were little and knocked the lock out immediately. This has been a known safety issue for years.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases/2018/CPSC-Urges-Consumers-to-Replace-or-Remove-Latches-Locks-on-Lane-and-Virginia-Maid-Cedar-Chests-14-Deaths-Reported

[Anonymous]

The kids kicked in their dream and closed the box? Yeah right. Charges probably coming soon. This is totally unbelievable that 2 four year olds would snuggle up and sleep quietly together in a small uncomfortable box.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like a freak accident.

https://people.com/4-year-old-twins-die-toy-chest-shut-while-they-were-sleeping-mom-says-7965695

Sounds more like the parents just haven’t been charged yet.

“We are working with our partners at the Medical Examiner’s Office to determine the cause of death," police added. "At this time, we don’t know if this is an accident or if foul play is involved.” No charges have been filed as of Tuesday.”

There is something not right about this story. Or a “sound proof” cedar chest.

The real Amish cedar hope chests are meant to be completely air tight and not have any cracks or spaces at all (so moisture and moths can’t get in to your heirlooms) in addition to being really dense and heavy so I’m guessing they are pretty soundproof. And you’d lose consciousness from lack of oxygen pretty quickly since they are airtight.

There’s nothing in the article that says it’s an Amish hope chest. And wood is not sound proof.

She calls it an “old wooden cedar chest.” These have been known for years to be unsafe for kids unless the lock is taken out. We got an antique one to put in our foyer for backpacks etc. when our kids were little and knocked the lock out immediately. This has been a known safety issue for years.
https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases/2018/CPSC-Urges-Consumers-to-Replace-or-Remove-Latches-Locks-on-Lane-and-Virginia-Maid-Cedar-Chests-14-Deaths-Reported

So not an Amish cedar chest and not a sound proof box?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The kids kicked in their dream and closed the box? Yeah right. Charges probably coming soon. This is totally unbelievable that 2 four year olds would snuggle up and sleep quietly together in a small uncomfortable box.

I agree. There’s more to this story. Let’s wait and see.