No early decision or legacy preferences Virginia Tech

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The giant elephant in the room is their goal of 50% URM and minorities - what is their public stance on that given their AO staff are all URM activists?
Do they need a "public stance" when Va Tech is 64.5% white, 10.3% Asian and 6.8% International? The numbers speak for themselves.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks all who shared their thoughts re: my daughter.

She will be in-state. She is taking the following AP classes this fall/sr year:

AP Calc BC
AP Bio
AP physics 2
AP physics C M

Other classes are HN history, HN English and theatre (they’ve taken theatre every year).


I'd say she should have no problems getting in. She'd probably also get into UVA if that school is of interest, esp. ED.


Thank you. She’ll be applying to UVA, she did enjoy the engineering day there. Also VCU and JMU (though JMU doesn’t have the specific engineering major she wants - chemical).

Out of state will only be possible with scholarships and a lot of financial aid, but she is also applying to Delaware, Purdue and Berkeley. Possibly Johns Hopkins.

Honestly, we probably need to relook at colleges now.

If urban is ok, I’d add Pitt for a safety (and above UD and JMU). But I think your list is solid.


Urban is fine. Will do, thank you.

Great chem E plus urban plus merit money equals UMN!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ok, this is why VT needs new leadership in Admissions. Does anyone see a logic issue here:

“We’ve placed less and less emphasis on legacy in recent years, to the point that it’s not factoring into admissions decisions in any significant way, and yet our legacy numbers have remained really strong,” Espinoza said.
“While around 12 percent of our applications are legacy, they comprise over 20 percent of the incoming class. This demonstrates that legacy students are applying with all the academic and extracurricular preparation that they need to compete for admission.”

Um, or does it indicate a huge bias/advantage for legacy. I mean LOL.

The giant elephant in the room is their goal of 50% URM and minorities - what is their public stance on that given their AO staff are all URM activists?


The goal is 40% first-gen (that means ANY race, btw) and URM. And they've met that goal already. Every time you rant about this subject, you either exaggerate or lie.

As for the legacy comments, it's clear he's simply saying many of their legacy applicants are exceptionally well-qualified, in addition to being legacy, which is of little importance to begin with. Why are you trying to twist his words?
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, this is why VT needs new leadership in Admissions. Does anyone see a logic issue here:

“We’ve placed less and less emphasis on legacy in recent years, to the point that it’s not factoring into admissions decisions in any significant way, and yet our legacy numbers have remained really strong,” Espinoza said.
“While around 12 percent of our applications are legacy, they comprise over 20 percent of the incoming class. This demonstrates that legacy students are applying with all the academic and extracurricular preparation that they need to compete for admission.”

Um, or does it indicate a huge bias/advantage for legacy. I mean LOL.

The giant elephant in the room is their goal of 50% URM and minorities - what is their public stance on that given their AO staff are all URM activists?


The goal is 40% first-gen (that means ANY race, btw) and URM. And they've met that goal already. Every time you rant about this subject, you either exaggerate or lie.

As for the legacy comments, it's clear he's simply saying many of their legacy applicants are exceptionally well-qualified, in addition to being legacy, which is of little importance to begin with. Why are you trying to twist his words?


Honest question (for anyone): for how long can there be a 40% first-gen target?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, this is why VT needs new leadership in Admissions. Does anyone see a logic issue here:

“We’ve placed less and less emphasis on legacy in recent years, to the point that it’s not factoring into admissions decisions in any significant way, and yet our legacy numbers have remained really strong,” Espinoza said.
“While around 12 percent of our applications are legacy, they comprise over 20 percent of the incoming class. This demonstrates that legacy students are applying with all the academic and extracurricular preparation that they need to compete for admission.”

Um, or does it indicate a huge bias/advantage for legacy. I mean LOL.

The giant elephant in the room is their goal of 50% URM and minorities - what is their public stance on that given their AO staff are all URM activists?


The goal is 40% first-gen (that means ANY race, btw) and URM. And they've met that goal already. Every time you rant about this subject, you either exaggerate or lie.

As for the legacy comments, it's clear he's simply saying many of their legacy applicants are exceptionally well-qualified, in addition to being legacy, which is of little importance to begin with. Why are you trying to twist his words?


Honest question (for anyone): for how long can there be a 40% first-gen target?


Honest answer: I don't know. As long as it's not race-based, it's fine with me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks all who shared their thoughts re: my daughter.

She will be in-state. She is taking the following AP classes this fall/sr year:

AP Calc BC
AP Bio
AP physics 2
AP physics C M

Other classes are HN history, HN English and theatre (they’ve taken theatre every year).


I'd say she should have no problems getting in. She'd probably also get into UVA if that school is of interest, esp. ED.

NP, I think UVA might be tough with honors English and history. They probably want to see AP (if available).


Probably. I guess it will be what it will be. She will get in somewhere, and will get an excellent education, even if it’s not at her top options. She really liked the Chem engineering program at UVA, it was her second pick over VA Tech.


I have a rising hs 10th grader. How did your daughter learn about uva Chem engineering program ? Did she try it over a summer program?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok, this is why VT needs new leadership in Admissions. Does anyone see a logic issue here:

“We’ve placed less and less emphasis on legacy in recent years, to the point that it’s not factoring into admissions decisions in any significant way, and yet our legacy numbers have remained really strong,” Espinoza said.
“While around 12 percent of our applications are legacy, they comprise over 20 percent of the incoming class. This demonstrates that legacy students are applying with all the academic and extracurricular preparation that they need to compete for admission.”

Um, or does it indicate a huge bias/advantage for legacy. I mean LOL.

The giant elephant in the room is their goal of 50% URM and minorities - what is their public stance on that given their AO staff are all URM activists?


The goal is 40% first-gen (that means ANY race, btw) and URM. And they've met that goal already. Every time you rant about this subject, you either exaggerate or lie.

As for the legacy comments, it's clear he's simply saying many of their legacy applicants are exceptionally well-qualified, in addition to being legacy, which is of little importance to begin with. Why are you trying to twist his words?


Honest question (for anyone): for how long can there be a 40% first-gen target?


As long as we have uncontrolled immigration from third world countries.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks all who shared their thoughts re: my daughter.

She will be in-state. She is taking the following AP classes this fall/sr year:

AP Calc BC
AP Bio
AP physics 2
AP physics C M

Other classes are HN history, HN English and theatre (they’ve taken theatre every year).


I'd say she should have no problems getting in. She'd probably also get into UVA if that school is of interest, esp. ED.

NP, I think UVA might be tough with honors English and history. They probably want to see AP (if available).


Probably. I guess it will be what it will be. She will get in somewhere, and will get an excellent education, even if it’s not at her top options. She really liked the Chem engineering program at UVA, it was her second pick over VA Tech.


I have a rising hs 10th grader. How did your daughter learn about uva Chem engineering program ? Did she try it over a summer program?


She really likes science and math and spent time talking with her Chem and physics teachers about job possibilities. She looked into them and decided Chemical engineering was what she thought she’d like the most and we searched for colleges with ChemE degree programs. She liked both Tech and UVA, but something about Tech’s campus and their engineering program really spoke to her. We went to Tech’s main open house and UVA’s engineering-specific open house.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks all who shared their thoughts re: my daughter.

She will be in-state. She is taking the following AP classes this fall/sr year:

AP Calc BC
AP Bio
AP physics 2
AP physics C M

Other classes are HN history, HN English and theatre (they’ve taken theatre every year).


I'd say she should have no problems getting in. She'd probably also get into UVA if that school is of interest, esp. ED.


Thank you. She’ll be applying to UVA, she did enjoy the engineering day there. Also VCU and JMU (though JMU doesn’t have the specific engineering major she wants - chemical).

Out of state will only be possible with scholarships and a lot of financial aid, but she is also applying to Delaware, Purdue and Berkeley. Possibly Johns Hopkins.

Honestly, we probably need to relook at colleges now.

If urban is ok, I’d add Pitt for a safety (and above UD and JMU). But I think your list is solid.
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If she really wants Chem-e and you think she’s likely to see that through and succeed that might be one situation where taking out some amount of loans for a solid program might be worth it. The job prospects with that major are so solid. I wouldn’t go crazy with trying for the top ranked, but just a solid program. Does Delaware have a strong program in that major?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Thanks all who shared their thoughts re: my daughter.

She will be in-state. She is taking the following AP classes this fall/sr year:

AP Calc BC
AP Bio
AP physics 2
AP physics C M

Other classes are HN history, HN English and theatre (they’ve taken theatre every year).


I'd say she should have no problems getting in. She'd probably also get into UVA if that school is of interest, esp. ED.


Thank you. She’ll be applying to UVA, she did enjoy the engineering day there. Also VCU and JMU (though JMU doesn’t have the specific engineering major she wants - chemical).

Out of state will only be possible with scholarships and a lot of financial aid, but she is also applying to Delaware, Purdue and Berkeley. Possibly Johns Hopkins.

Honestly, we probably need to relook at colleges now.

If urban is ok, I’d add Pitt for a safety (and above UD and JMU). But I think your list is solid.
i

If she really wants Chem-e and you think she’s likely to see that through and succeed that might be one situation where taking out some amount of loans for a solid program might be worth it. The job prospects with that major are so solid. I wouldn’t go crazy with trying for the top ranked, but just a solid program. Does Delaware have a strong program in that major?


Delaware’s undergrad ChemE program was ranked 2nd in the nation 22-23. Grad program 8th. (News and world reports)
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