What schools do you think will be in new region 6

[Anonymous]

From a teacher standpoint, the different regions are run differently. So it’s going to be an adjustment going from one region to another.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This has got to be the stupidest thread in the history of DCUM. On in Fairfax County would people come here to complain ad nauseum about some organizational restructuring that has ZERO IMPACT on:

-where you kid goes to school
-what your kid is taught
-how far your kid has to travel
-which teams your kid plays
-how teachers are paid
-who your kid’s principal is
-how involved or uninvolved you can be with your PTA

So many micromanagers here. All some of you know how to do is complain.

What your post emphasizes is that FCPS has created entirely too much administrative bloat that wastes taxpayer money and has zero inpact on education, academic achievement, student behavior or teacher compensation.

Perhaps this layer of bureaucracy should be eliminated entirely since it has zero function value for the quality of education.

And what exactly is your evidence and data to support your last paragraph? Are you really suggesting that the region structure as asst supt position be eliminated entirely and that this “layer of bureaucracy” be removed? That all 200 principals should report to one person and all parent issues should funnel to one person? If that’s not what you’re suggesting, please clarify.

DP but I’ve yet to hear of a single situation where a regional superintendent really did anything helpful. Some of them spend a lot of their time just re-posting school posts on Twitter approvingly.

They support and evaluate principals. They field the endless complaints from parents. I truly hope they don’t tweet that stuff out. You couldn’t pay me enough to do their job.

There’s a superintendent. Are you suggesting that she evaluate all the principals herself? Or are you okay with a layer of assistant superintendents who support & evaluate principals and help them resolve issues. If not that, what’s your solution?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From a teacher standpoint, the different regions are run differently. So it’s going to be an adjustment going from one region to another.

Region 3 management has been abhorrent so it’ll be hard to get worse in region 6!

[Anonymous]

Regional superintendents support and advise principals and help with the endless inquiries from parents. They are necessary. Some are better than others, of course, but they are nice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This has got to be the stupidest thread in the history of DCUM. On in Fairfax County would people come here to complain ad nauseum about some organizational restructuring that has ZERO IMPACT on:

-where you kid goes to school
-what your kid is taught
-how far your kid has to travel
-which teams your kid plays
-how teachers are paid
-who your kid’s principal is
-how involved or uninvolved you can be with your PTA

So many micromanagers here. All some of you know how to do is complain.

Calm down, this doesn’t even crack the top 50 stupidest threads on this board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has got to be the stupidest thread in the history of DCUM. On in Fairfax County would people come here to complain ad nauseum about some organizational restructuring that has ZERO IMPACT on:

-where you kid goes to school
-what your kid is taught
-how far your kid has to travel
-which teams your kid plays
-how teachers are paid
-who your kid’s principal is
-how involved or uninvolved you can be with your PTA

So many micromanagers here. All some of you know how to do is complain.

What your post emphasizes is that FCPS has created entirely too much administrative bloat that wastes taxpayer money and has zero inpact on education, academic achievement, student behavior or teacher compensation.

Perhaps this layer of bureaucracy should be eliminated entirely since it has zero function value for the quality of education.

And what exactly is your evidence and data to support your last paragraph? Are you really suggesting that the region structure as asst supt position be eliminated entirely and that this “layer of bureaucracy” be removed? That all 200 principals should report to one person and all parent issues should funnel to one person? If that’s not what you’re suggesting, please clarify.

DP but I’ve yet to hear of a single situation where a regional superintendent really did anything helpful. Some of them spend a lot of their time just re-posting school posts on Twitter approvingly.

They support and evaluate principals. They field the endless complaints from parents. I truly hope they don’t tweet that stuff out. You couldn’t pay me enough to do their job.

There’s a superintendent. Are you suggesting that she evaluate all the principals herself? Or are you okay with a layer of assistant superintendents who support & evaluate principals and help them resolve issues. If not that, what’s your solution?

A large number of the regional superintendents and executive principals were assigned these jobs because they were so bad as school-based leaders. They should have been shown the door, not promoted, and the notion that they are well qualified to evaluate other principals or resolve problems is a joke. It promotes a culture where sycophancy rather than excellence is rewarded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has got to be the stupidest thread in the history of DCUM. On in Fairfax County would people come here to complain ad nauseum about some organizational restructuring that has ZERO IMPACT on:

-where you kid goes to school
-what your kid is taught
-how far your kid has to travel
-which teams your kid plays
-how teachers are paid
-who your kid’s principal is
-how involved or uninvolved you can be with your PTA

So many micromanagers here. All some of you know how to do is complain.

What your post emphasizes is that FCPS has created entirely too much administrative bloat that wastes taxpayer money and has zero inpact on education, academic achievement, student behavior or teacher compensation.

Perhaps this layer of bureaucracy should be eliminated entirely since it has zero function value for the quality of education.

And what exactly is your evidence and data to support your last paragraph? Are you really suggesting that the region structure as asst supt position be eliminated entirely and that this “layer of bureaucracy” be removed? That all 200 principals should report to one person and all parent issues should funnel to one person? If that’s not what you’re suggesting, please clarify.

DP but I’ve yet to hear of a single situation where a regional superintendent really did anything helpful. Some of them spend a lot of their time just re-posting school posts on Twitter approvingly.

They support and evaluate principals. They field the endless complaints from parents. I truly hope they don’t tweet that stuff out. You couldn’t pay me enough to do their job.

There’s a superintendent. Are you suggesting that she evaluate all the principals herself? Or are you okay with a layer of assistant superintendents who support & evaluate principals and help them resolve issues. If not that, what’s your solution?

A large number of the regional superintendents and executive principals were assigned these jobs because they were so bad as school-based leaders. They should have been shown the door, not promoted, and the notion that they are well qualified to evaluate other principals or resolve problems is a joke. It promotes a culture where sycophancy rather than excellence is rewarded.

This is such a tired trope. I just went through the entire list of RAS and EPs in the division, and nearly every one of them was an exceptional building leader. Many of them were local and regional principals of the year, have doctorates from high-end programs, have successful and innovative experiences supporting communities, and are pushing for further promotions.

The idea that the supt and a small team could support over 200 principals and their communities is asinine. Imagine if Zuckerberg was asked to get into the weeds and minutiae of the day to day tasks of every department at Facebook, while also responding to every user complaint that filtered in. Silly

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has got to be the stupidest thread in the history of DCUM. On in Fairfax County would people come here to complain ad nauseum about some organizational restructuring that has ZERO IMPACT on:

-where you kid goes to school
-what your kid is taught
-how far your kid has to travel
-which teams your kid plays
-how teachers are paid
-who your kid’s principal is
-how involved or uninvolved you can be with your PTA

So many micromanagers here. All some of you know how to do is complain.

What your post emphasizes is that FCPS has created entirely too much administrative bloat that wastes taxpayer money and has zero inpact on education, academic achievement, student behavior or teacher compensation.

Perhaps this layer of bureaucracy should be eliminated entirely since it has zero function value for the quality of education.

And what exactly is your evidence and data to support your last paragraph? Are you really suggesting that the region structure as asst supt position be eliminated entirely and that this “layer of bureaucracy” be removed? That all 200 principals should report to one person and all parent issues should funnel to one person? If that’s not what you’re suggesting, please clarify.

DP but I’ve yet to hear of a single situation where a regional superintendent really did anything helpful. Some of them spend a lot of their time just re-posting school posts on Twitter approvingly.

They support and evaluate principals. They field the endless complaints from parents. I truly hope they don’t tweet that stuff out. You couldn’t pay me enough to do their job.

There’s a superintendent. Are you suggesting that she evaluate all the principals herself? Or are you okay with a layer of assistant superintendents who support & evaluate principals and help them resolve issues. If not that, what’s your solution?

A large number of the regional superintendents and executive principals were assigned these jobs because they were so bad as school-based leaders. They should have been shown the door, not promoted, and the notion that they are well qualified to evaluate other principals or resolve problems is a joke. It promotes a culture where sycophancy rather than excellence is rewarded.

This is such a tired trope. I just went through the entire list of RAS and EPs in the division, and nearly every one of them was an exceptional building leader. Many of them were local and regional principals of the year, have doctorates from high-end programs, have successful and innovative experiences supporting communities, and are pushing for further promotions.

The idea that the supt and a small team could support over 200 principals and their communities is asinine. Imagine if Zuckerberg was asked to get into the weeds and minutiae of the day to day tasks of every department at Facebook, while also responding to every user complaint that filtered in. Silly

Your silly “exceptional building leader” PR doesn’t fly. Some of us watched many of these folks flounder in both their prior and current positions.

And comparing FCPS to a successful business like Facebook? Get out of here. If you want to compare FCPS to a private corporation, the better analogy might be Enron.

[Anonymous]

“Many”? Get out of here.

At the end of the day, the taxpayers get what they fund. You want a world-class school division while paying 80 hour per week upper management 160k per year. And you wonder why they all leave for private sec or for PWCS, or they have no one else to promote because most principals wouldn’t take a 10k promotion to handle all the BS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Many”? Get out of here.

At the end of the day, the taxpayers get what they fund. You want a world-class school division while paying 80 hour per week upper management 160k per year. And you wonder why they all leave for private sec or for PWCS, or they have no one else to promote because most principals wouldn’t take a 10k promotion to handle all the BS

They don’t get paid more because they are mostly mediocre ex-principals who are lucky they didn’t just get a pink slip.

If you want to pay them more, hire better talent and stop treating Gatehouse like a public works program to warehouse some of the weakest people in the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Many”? Get out of here.

At the end of the day, the taxpayers get what they fund. You want a world-class school division while paying 80 hour per week upper management 160k per year. And you wonder why they all leave for private sec or for PWCS, or they have no one else to promote because most principals wouldn’t take a 10k promotion to handle all the BS

80 hour per week "upper management?" Eye roll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Many”? Get out of here.

At the end of the day, the taxpayers get what they fund. You want a world-class school division while paying 80 hour per week upper management 160k per year. And you wonder why they all leave for private sec or for PWCS, or they have no one else to promote because most principals wouldn’t take a 10k promotion to handle all the BS

I’m a principal making 170K. There’s not enough money to pay me to do that job. I’m already overworked. Dealing with the parents alone would be crushing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has got to be the stupidest thread in the history of DCUM. On in Fairfax County would people come here to complain ad nauseum about some organizational restructuring that has ZERO IMPACT on:

-where you kid goes to school
-what your kid is taught
-how far your kid has to travel
-which teams your kid plays
-how teachers are paid
-who your kid’s principal is
-how involved or uninvolved you can be with your PTA

So many micromanagers here. All some of you know how to do is complain.

What your post emphasizes is that FCPS has created entirely too much administrative bloat that wastes taxpayer money and has zero inpact on education, academic achievement, student behavior or teacher compensation.

Perhaps this layer of bureaucracy should be eliminated entirely since it has zero function value for the quality of education.

And what exactly is your evidence and data to support your last paragraph? Are you really suggesting that the region structure as asst supt position be eliminated entirely and that this “layer of bureaucracy” be removed? That all 200 principals should report to one person and all parent issues should funnel to one person? If that’s not what you’re suggesting, please clarify.

DP but I’ve yet to hear of a single situation where a regional superintendent really did anything helpful. Some of them spend a lot of their time just re-posting school posts on Twitter approvingly.

They support and evaluate principals. They field the endless complaints from parents. I truly hope they don’t tweet that stuff out. You couldn’t pay me enough to do their job.

There’s a superintendent. Are you suggesting that she evaluate all the principals herself? Or are you okay with a layer of assistant superintendents who support & evaluate principals and help them resolve issues. If not that, what’s your solution?

Instead of 6 there should be 3 at most. Once down to 3 take the 2 best out of the 3 and there you are a good second layer of management. As others have said many of the current 6 were probably promoted because they were incompetent in prior positions, so FCPS should probably start with a clean slate and hire externally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has got to be the stupidest thread in the history of DCUM. On in Fairfax County would people come here to complain ad nauseum about some organizational restructuring that has ZERO IMPACT on:

-where you kid goes to school
-what your kid is taught
-how far your kid has to travel
-which teams your kid plays
-how teachers are paid
-who your kid’s principal is
-how involved or uninvolved you can be with your PTA

So many micromanagers here. All some of you know how to do is complain.

What your post emphasizes is that FCPS has created entirely too much administrative bloat that wastes taxpayer money and has zero inpact on education, academic achievement, student behavior or teacher compensation.

Perhaps this layer of bureaucracy should be eliminated entirely since it has zero function value for the quality of education.

And what exactly is your evidence and data to support your last paragraph? Are you really suggesting that the region structure as asst supt position be eliminated entirely and that this “layer of bureaucracy” be removed? That all 200 principals should report to one person and all parent issues should funnel to one person? If that’s not what you’re suggesting, please clarify.

DP but I’ve yet to hear of a single situation where a regional superintendent really did anything helpful. Some of them spend a lot of their time just re-posting school posts on Twitter approvingly.

They support and evaluate principals. They field the endless complaints from parents. I truly hope they don’t tweet that stuff out. You couldn’t pay me enough to do their job.

There’s a superintendent. Are you suggesting that she evaluate all the principals herself? Or are you okay with a layer of assistant superintendents who support & evaluate principals and help them resolve issues. If not that, what’s your solution?

Instead of 6 there should be 3 at most. Once down to 3 take the 2 best out of the 3 and there you are a good second layer of management. As others have said many of the current 6 were probably promoted because they were incompetent in prior positions, so FCPS should probably start with a clean slate and hire externally.

+1000

[Anonymous]

There are 200 schools. Three is not enough. Principals would have a lot of added work if they got less support from regions.