Where do smart kids go now?

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Anonymous wrote:Go abroad to University of St Andrews, Edinburg, etc., more rigorous education for the same or less money than comparable US universities.

But then you need to call it maths instead of math. So annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

Somebody needs to watch Ratatouille movie.

Anyone can cook!

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

Somebody needs to watch Ratatouille movie.

Anyone can cook!

anyone, not everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:There are smart kids at almost every school. You just have to take the higher level classes, major in the hard sciences, join the honors program, etc.

My husband and I are both honors program grads from second tier state schools. Our classmates' lives are now indistinguishable from our friends and colleagues who went to Ivy league undergrads.

We are hoping for a honors college type situation for our kid. Not sure that she has the stats to get in at Pitt for the honors college. Could you please share what the second tier state schools are that you're referring to?

What are second tier state schools? AS USNEWS defines them? 20-40?

I would not call T20 to 40 second tier schools. Have you seen the acceptance rates at some of those schools?

I guess it depends on the size and definition of your tiers. There are elite states schools (UCLA, UCB, Michigan, UNC Chapel Hill, UVA, UF - apologies if I missed one) then there are some really great state schools such as William and Mary, UCSD, UCSB, UCD, etc. The second set are not elite but they are great institutions accepting very competitive students. Then there are great state schools with some amazing programs such as Georgia Tech, University of Washington, UMD, etc. is one of these groups second tier?

There are schools in your "really great" or "great" but "not elite" that have more qualified students than your "elite" state schools.

??? Confused - do you mean, for example, more qualified students @ Michigan than UMiss?

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Anonymous wrote:There are smart kids at almost every school. You just have to take the higher level classes, major in the hard sciences, join the honors program, etc.

My husband and I are both honors program grads from second tier state schools. Our classmates' lives are now indistinguishable from our friends and colleagues who went to Ivy league undergrads.

We are hoping for a honors college type situation for our kid. Not sure that she has the stats to get in at Pitt for the honors college. Could you please share what the second tier state schools are that you're referring to?

What are second tier state schools? AS USNEWS defines them? 20-40?

I would not call T20 to 40 second tier schools. Have you seen the acceptance rates at some of those schools?

I guess it depends on the size and definition of your tiers. There are elite states schools (UCLA, UCB, Michigan, UNC Chapel Hill, UVA, UF - apologies if I missed one) then there are some really great state schools such as William and Mary, UCSD, UCSB, UCD, etc. The second set are not elite but they are great institutions accepting very competitive students. Then there are great state schools with some amazing programs such as Georgia Tech, University of Washington, UMD, etc. is one of these groups second tier?

There are schools in your "really great" or "great" but "not elite" that have more qualified students than your "elite" state schools.

??? Confused - do you mean, for example, more qualified students @ Michigan than UMiss?

Where was UMiss cited?

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

DP. Completely agree. Too bad FCPS considers half the student population to be "advanced."

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

I agree. But the definition of “smart” has changed a lot over the years. Gifted and Talented used to be the actual gifted and talented. Now it s basically anyone who wants to be. Everyone takes AP classes and gets straight As. SAT scores are high with prepping and tutoring. Every parent on here thinks their kid is a genius and belongs at a top school. If they don’t get accepted some undeserved URM took their spot.

So I was going by the 2023 definition of “smart” which I actually don’t agree with. So great point you are making.

+1

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I’m sorry your kid didn’t get into their ED.

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OP they only go to UVA, Northeastern, and Duke. If they go to Ivy, according to this board, they are dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:Dh went to ivy. I went to state. We met in the same phd program.

Your point is?

Ivy grads have connections you don’t have.
Ivy grads had experiences you didn’t have.
In many cases, Ivy grads had an education you didn’t have.

PhD programs take a variety of people. Maybe you got lucky or your husband didn’t go to a great program.

Lots of variables here do not support your implication that Ivy grads are the same as everyone else.

Doesn’t mean non Ivy schools aren’t great. It just means you didn’t prove that.

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Anonymous wrote:OP they only go to UVA, Northeastern, and Duke. If they go to Ivy, according to this board, they are dumb.

Duke is T10 already higher ranked than half of Ivy

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Anonymous wrote:OP they only go to UVA, Northeastern, and Duke. If they go to Ivy, according to this board, they are dumb.

Duke is T10 already higher ranked than half of Ivy

A lot of people do not agree but for some people that like Duke, sure.

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Anonymous wrote:OP they only go to UVA, Northeastern, and Duke. If they go to Ivy, according to this board, they are dumb.

Duke is T10 already higher ranked than half of Ivy

A lot of people do not agree but for some people that like Duke, sure.

Different people have different opinions so I like talking about facts. Duke is T10, higher ranked than many ivies by the de facto industry standard ranking that most people go to, USN&WR.

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Anonymous wrote:OP they only go to UVA, Northeastern, and Duke. If they go to Ivy, according to this board, they are dumb.

Duke is T10 already higher ranked than half of Ivy

A lot of people do not agree but for some people that like Duke, sure.

Different people have different opinions so I like talking about facts. Duke is T10, higher ranked than many ivies by the de facto industry standard ranking that most people go to, USN&WR.

Sure however the overwhelming majority of people do not agree. Just another fact.

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Anonymous wrote:OP they only go to UVA, Northeastern, and Duke. If they go to Ivy, according to this board, they are dumb.

Duke is T10 already higher ranked than half of Ivy

A lot of people do not agree but for some people that like Duke, sure.

Different people have different opinions so I like talking about facts. Duke is T10, higher ranked than many ivies by the de facto industry standard ranking that most people go to, USN&WR.

Sure however the overwhelming majority of people do not agree. Just another fact.

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What's the source for "overwhelming majority of people do not agree."

My opinion is that's your delusion.