Where do smart kids go now?

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Anonymous wrote:OP they only go to UVA, Northeastern, and Duke. If they go to Ivy, according to this board, they are dumb.

Duke is T10 already higher ranked than half of Ivy

A lot of people do not agree but for some people that like Duke, sure.

Different people have different opinions so I like talking about facts. Duke is T10, higher ranked than many ivies by the de facto industry standard ranking that most people go to, USN&WR.

If you look at specific programs at Duke, their T10 ranking is laughable. For example, they have so few graduate programs that their undergraduate majors really suffer from the lack of resources in these departments. Some people will emphasize the focus on undergraduate teaching, but you cannot be a top program without the resources from top faculty, graduate students, postdocs, etc. that exist in top departments. If you remove their medical and business schools, which do not offer undergraduate degrees, the situation looks much worse. When you look at the facts, it is clear that USNWR is boosting Duke without merit.

They are also strong in economics and public policy - not just medical and business (can't speak to the lacking majors you are referring to)

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Depends on whether they're smart kids with family money to fund expensive educations or not. This is why you will find them at a lot of places.

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Anonymous wrote:Flagship public honors program stem classes

+1000

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

I agree. But the definition of “smart” has changed a lot over the years. Gifted and Talented used to be the actual gifted and talented. Now it s basically anyone who wants to be. Everyone takes AP classes and gets straight As. SAT scores are high with prepping and tutoring. Every parent on here thinks their kid is a genius and belongs at a top school. If they don’t get accepted some undeserved URM took their spot.

So I was going by the 2023 definition of “smart” which I actually don’t agree with. So great point you are making.

If you get 1550 SAT with some prepping, I think thats smart.

Meh

1570?
That's high end of middle 50% for MI

Excluding the 30% who didn't provide SAT scores.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

I agree. But the definition of “smart” has changed a lot over the years. Gifted and Talented used to be the actual gifted and talented. Now it s basically anyone who wants to be. Everyone takes AP classes and gets straight As. SAT scores are high with prepping and tutoring. Every parent on here thinks their kid is a genius and belongs at a top school. If they don’t get accepted some undeserved URM took their spot.

So I was going by the 2023 definition of “smart” which I actually don’t agree with. So great point you are making.

If you get 1550 SAT with some prepping, I think thats smart.

Meh

1570?
That's high end of middle 50% for MI

Excluding the 30% who didn't provide SAT scores.

It's not much different from 2-3 years ago when scores were mandatory.
We can check back next year as MIT is back to test required.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve recently learned that excellent grades and top test scores is not what prestigious/expensive colleges are looking for. I don’t really care about prestige, and I’d rather save my money, but my smart kid would like to study math with a bunch of other smart kids. Some weed-out is ok, but preferably not too cut-throat.

Where do the boring smart kids go?

Mine went to LAC (Williams/Amherst/Pomona/Swarthmore)