Where do smart kids go now?

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Anonymous wrote:My current senior is a “boring smart kid.” Applied and was accepted to Pitt (honors and merit aid), UMD (in state), William & Mary (oos), Emory, Rochester (merit), Northeastern, Case Western (merit). Was rejected at several others!

Several excellent choices. What did they ultimately choose?

Case Western

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

Nobody should listen to someone claiming to be smart themselves and offering their MBA as proof. It isn't interpreted how you think it is.

Calm down.

Then stop the clown show.

Which school did you get rejected from? Let it go.

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Anonymous wrote:There are smart kids at almost every school. You just have to take the higher level classes, major in the hard sciences, join the honors program, etc.

My husband and I are both honors program grads from second tier state schools. Our classmates' lives are now indistinguishable from our friends and colleagues who went to Ivy league undergrads.

We are hoping for a honors college type situation for our kid. Not sure that she has the stats to get in at Pitt for the honors college. Could you please share what the second tier state schools are that you're referring to?

What are second tier state schools? AS USNEWS defines them? 20-40?

OMG this is the most DCUM question ever. 😆

PP, “second tier state schools” are state schools that are ranked below their state’s flagship, so therefore not considered among the top 40 universities in the country.

Michigan State, for instance. Florida State. North Carolina State. Colorado State. Auburn. UCs that aren’t Berkeley, LA or SD. UMBC. Etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

Nobody should listen to someone claiming to be smart themselves and offering their MBA as proof. It isn't interpreted how you think it is.

Calm down.

Then stop the clown show.

Which school did you get rejected from? Let it go.

PP said there are smart people everywhere. However, I'd encourage you to raise the bar a little higher.

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Anonymous wrote:There are smart kids at almost every school. You just have to take the higher level classes, major in the hard sciences, join the honors program, etc.

My husband and I are both honors program grads from second tier state schools. Our classmates' lives are now indistinguishable from our friends and colleagues who went to Ivy league undergrads.

We are hoping for a honors college type situation for our kid. Not sure that she has the stats to get in at Pitt for the honors college. Could you please share what the second tier state schools are that you're referring to?

What are second tier state schools? AS USNEWS defines them? 20-40?

I would not call T20 to 40 second tier schools. Have you seen the acceptance rates at some of those schools?

I guess it depends on the size and definition of your tiers. There are elite states schools (UCLA, UCB, Michigan, UNC Chapel Hill, UVA, UF - apologies if I missed one) then there are some really great state schools such as William and Mary, UCSD, UCSB, UCD, etc. The second set are not elite but they are great institutions accepting very competitive students. Then there are great state schools with some amazing programs such as Georgia Tech, University of Washington, UMD, etc. is one of these groups second tier?

There are schools in your "really great" or "great" but "not elite" that have more qualified students than your "elite" state schools.

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Anonymous wrote:There are smart kids at almost every school. You just have to take the higher level classes, major in the hard sciences, join the honors program, etc.

My husband and I are both honors program grads from second tier state schools. Our classmates' lives are now indistinguishable from our friends and colleagues who went to Ivy league undergrads.

We are hoping for a honors college type situation for our kid. Not sure that she has the stats to get in at Pitt for the honors college. Could you please share what the second tier state schools are that you're referring to?

What are second tier state schools? AS USNEWS defines them? 20-40?

I would not call T20 to 40 second tier schools. Have you seen the acceptance rates at some of those schools?

I guess it depends on the size and definition of your tiers. There are elite states schools (UCLA, UCB, Michigan, UNC Chapel Hill, UVA, UF - apologies if I missed one) then there are some really great state schools such as William and Mary, UCSD, UCSB, UCD, etc. The second set are not elite but they are great institutions accepting very competitive students. Then there are great state schools with some amazing programs such as Georgia Tech, University of Washington, UMD, etc. is one of these groups second tier?

There are schools in your "really great" or "great" but "not elite" that have more qualified students than your "elite" state schools.

What the heck is a "more qualified student"? More qualified for what?

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Anonymous wrote:Go abroad to University of St Andrews, Edinburg, etc., more rigorous education for the same or less money than comparable US universities.

Nope, Scotland is four years while England is three and it’s not a bargain at all, really

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

I agree. But the definition of “smart” has changed a lot over the years. Gifted and Talented used to be the actual gifted and talented. Now it s basically anyone who wants to be. Everyone takes AP classes and gets straight As. SAT scores are high with prepping and tutoring. Every parent on here thinks their kid is a genius and belongs at a top school. If they don’t get accepted some undeserved URM took their spot.

So I was going by the 2023 definition of “smart” which I actually don’t agree with. So great point you are making.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

I agree. But the definition of “smart” has changed a lot over the years. Gifted and Talented used to be the actual gifted and talented. Now it s basically anyone who wants to be. Everyone takes AP classes and gets straight As. SAT scores are high with prepping and tutoring. Every parent on here thinks their kid is a genius and belongs at a top school. If they don’t get accepted some undeserved URM took their spot.

So I was going by the 2023 definition of “smart” which I actually don’t agree with. So great point you are making.

If you get 1550 SAT with some prepping, I think thats smart.

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

I agree. But the definition of “smart” has changed a lot over the years. Gifted and Talented used to be the actual gifted and talented. Now it s basically anyone who wants to be. Everyone takes AP classes and gets straight As. SAT scores are high with prepping and tutoring. Every parent on here thinks their kid is a genius and belongs at a top school. If they don’t get accepted some undeserved URM took their spot.

So I was going by the 2023 definition of “smart” which I actually don’t agree with. So great point you are making.

If you get 1550 SAT with some prepping, I think thats smart.

Meh

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

I agree. But the definition of “smart” has changed a lot over the years. Gifted and Talented used to be the actual gifted and talented. Now it s basically anyone who wants to be. Everyone takes AP classes and gets straight As. SAT scores are high with prepping and tutoring. Every parent on here thinks their kid is a genius and belongs at a top school. If they don’t get accepted some undeserved URM took their spot.

So I was going by the 2023 definition of “smart” which I actually don’t agree with. So great point you are making.

If you get 1550 SAT with some prepping, I think thats smart.

Meh

1570?
That's high end of middle 50% for MI

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s put it this way. I’m smart. I went to an T20 school and majored in Math and have an IVY MBA. I now work for a Fortune 500 company with people who went to a whole range of schools.

Guess what, I work with a lot of smart people who went to a wide range of schools. Many are smarter than me. Any good college your kid chooses will be full of smart people.

Why is “Ivy MBA” in ALL CAPS?

Anyone who ever attended an IVY knows to capitalize it. It's the strivers that don't know that.

Nobody who went to a good Ivy refers to their school by the athletic conference. It is only used at the lesser schools and is a sign of insecurity.

I’m capitalizing from here on, need to think of more ways to work IVY into posts. Cannot believe a simple mistake gets everyone riled up

I’m the PP who accidentally put it in caps. But I’m finding it hilarious how it got some people so worked up. 😂

My point was that in the end schools don’t really matter that much. There are smart people everywhere.

To a chimpanzee, most humans look pretty smart.

Who hurt you?

The point was we should just stop throwing around smart so casually and saying smart people are everywhere. Maybe the overwhelming amount of even high performing kids are just kids. I would reserve smart for exceptional circumstances.

I agree. But the definition of “smart” has changed a lot over the years. Gifted and Talented used to be the actual gifted and talented. Now it s basically anyone who wants to be. Everyone takes AP classes and gets straight As. SAT scores are high with prepping and tutoring. Every parent on here thinks their kid is a genius and belongs at a top school. If they don’t get accepted some undeserved URM took their spot.

So I was going by the 2023 definition of “smart” which I actually don’t agree with. So great point you are making.

If you get 1550 SAT with some prepping, I think thats smart.

Meh

1570?
That's high end of middle 50% for MIT