Religious people who have affairs

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Anonymous wrote:Religious people are some of the most judgmental of all. Just look at the evangelicals who have photos of guns and Christmas trees together. I can think of 1000 examples right now. It isn't just "one person”. They think they have some rule book and are the chosen people and don’t watch what they do as a result. They dismiss others and do anything from disregarding them to killing them. In fact all of Jesus’s ministry was about this with the Pharisees. This issue has been going on since the beginning of time. They think because this new person is in their life and bringing them joy they are called to be with them. They equate joy with religion and don’t realize it’s just their earthly desires for money or sex or whatever. There is a name for Christian money one. It’s called the prosperity gospel teaching. How about the Taliban? Just following their religion right? Stories of sex with kids left and right. There is nothing religious about them that is worthwhile on this earth to bring peace to all. This has been a major issue with religion since the beginning of time. Self righteous piety and fake piety. Partly why there are so many religions. Everyone is looking for a fix from sin.

Religion doesn’t fix sin.

You could not be more confused, and I say that with kindness. You aren’t stupid; just extremely confused.

And comments like this. It’s just masked digust or fear. There is nothing kind. Stop kidding yourself. Religious people always say with “kindness”. Bless your heart etc. We said the same thing. So neither of us is confused other than whether our words were “kind” or not

It’s not masked disgust or fear, it’s communicating as Jesus would. Religion doesn’t fix sin .

If you think religion fixes sin, you are confused. Get educated and informed, because you are flailing about in ignorance right now.

Again I don’t. You must be misreading. Someone pointed out saying don’t make all religious out to be hypocrites just because of one person you met and so I responded giving examples of thousands and thousands of years of hypocrisy and how not all but many religious can be led astray by not focusing on their own actions. Certainly there are people trying to walk the life of Jesus but many others thinking they are one with him which I have to say is just what you did.. many times hypocrisy starts right here with someone like you who thinks they are “kind” while telling someone they think they are confused (why can’t you just say I think you are confused? The kind reference is some sort of reflexive property you are assigning yourself. You always have to tack on that “Jesus angle” but Jesus wouldn’t talk like you do. You aren’t invoking him with your speech and it’s obvious because it’s not bringing peace. Somehow in addition you took my examples of hypocrisy and made them out to be my beilef which was the opposite of what I was saying. So you aren’t even comprehending the discussion yourself or getting the purpose of it pbecause you are interjecting into a response meant for the person I was responding to or just not reading correctly.

I find it fascinating you tell others how Jesus would “talk.”

1. Are you a Christian?
2. How do you know how Jesus would talk?
3. How did you gain special insight into the correct way Jesus would talk?
4. When other people discuss Jesus, do you always correct them because you have special and important insight into the words and commands of Jesus? Have you appointed yourself as a modern day apostle or teacher on earth, for Jesus Christ?

Please answer, I am intrigued.

Like this statement. “I find it fascinating you tell others how Jesus would talk”. I’m literally just responding to your own statement that you used Jesus name in your thinking of “kindness” to me while offering a criticism. It’s just mind blindness and now deflecting. If I have something negative to say I in no way think that Jesus is directing my actions. You do. I was simply calling out how absurd it was to say you were being kind and how it was somehow related to Jesus. You did this not me

Jesus commands us to love our neighbor like ourselves. You aren’t my neighbor but why should I not interact with you in kindness?

You are declaring every religious person is a hypocrite and all religion is built on thousands of years of hypocrisy.

Those are not kind statements and thoughts.

You then go on to “correct” people for “faking kindness” and go further to say kind words mask “disgust.”

You are not right about either of your statements that my words are fake kindness and I sm definitely not disgusted by you.

I am sorry you live in a world where you think everyone (at least religious people) are faking kindness or outright disgusted by you. That’s a terrible way to live.

You are the only person Making this about everyone. No one else. And that was already written above. Let me repeat. Again if I wanted to talk about all religious people I would but not all of them have affairs so this topic by its topic is not about all religious people. It’s also not saying only religious people have affairs. You just have to go to the relationship forum to see this and if I wanted to talk about all people that had affairs I would do so there. The person started saying don’t make affair issues in religion about just one person. I said there were many while also saying many not and that religion can actually confuse these people. Then you turned it into everyone that I’m condemning which is just false. See that’s the problem. When anyone says it is more than a one off experience religious people start out saying well it’s just a small number and then when you say no it’s a bigger problem and actually religion blinds people sometimes to their issue they start saying stop saying it’s everyone. Religious problems never exist beyond the individual for them is basically the argument they end up with every time.

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Honestly Patrick Doyle has already done a lot of research on this. Just skip this forum and go to him.

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Does this “religious” person believe that following religion in some ways can make them blind in others to themselves? That was my premise. That religious people rationalize their goodness in other areas as deserving of an affair or helping them somehow. I’m not sure how this religious person justifies how all of these religious affairs by higher ups happen.

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Anonymous wrote:Religious people are some of the most judgmental of all. Just look at the evangelicals who have photos of guns and Christmas trees together. I can think of 1000 examples right now. It isn't just "one person”. They think they have some rule book and are the chosen people and don’t watch what they do as a result. They dismiss others and do anything from disregarding them to killing them. In fact all of Jesus’s ministry was about this with the Pharisees. This issue has been going on since the beginning of time. They think because this new person is in their life and bringing them joy they are called to be with them. They equate joy with religion and don’t realize it’s just their earthly desires for money or sex or whatever. There is a name for Christian money one. It’s called the prosperity gospel teaching. How about the Taliban? Just following their religion right? Stories of sex with kids left and right. There is nothing religious about them that is worthwhile on this earth to bring peace to all. This has been a major issue with religion since the beginning of time. Self righteous piety and fake piety. Partly why there are so many religions. Everyone is looking for a fix from sin.

Religion doesn’t fix sin.

You could not be more confused, and I say that with kindness. You aren’t stupid; just extremely confused.

And comments like this. It’s just masked digust or fear. There is nothing kind. Stop kidding yourself. Religious people always say with “kindness”. Bless your heart etc. We said the same thing. So neither of us is confused other than whether our words were “kind” or not

It’s not masked disgust or fear, it’s communicating as Jesus would. Religion doesn’t fix sin .

If you think religion fixes sin, you are confused. Get educated and informed, because you are flailing about in ignorance right now.

Again I don’t. You must be misreading. Someone pointed out saying don’t make all religious out to be hypocrites just because of one person you met and so I responded giving examples of thousands and thousands of years of hypocrisy and how not all but many religious can be led astray by not focusing on their own actions. Certainly there are people trying to walk the life of Jesus but many others thinking they are one with him which I have to say is just what you did.. many times hypocrisy starts right here with someone like you who thinks they are “kind” while telling someone they think they are confused (why can’t you just say I think you are confused? The kind reference is some sort of reflexive property you are assigning yourself. You always have to tack on that “Jesus angle” but Jesus wouldn’t talk like you do. You aren’t invoking him with your speech and it’s obvious because it’s not bringing peace. Somehow in addition you took my examples of hypocrisy and made them out to be my beilef which was the opposite of what I was saying. So you aren’t even comprehending the discussion yourself or getting the purpose of it pbecause you are interjecting into a response meant for the person I was responding to or just not reading correctly.

I find it fascinating you tell others how Jesus would “talk.”

1. Are you a Christian?
2. How do you know how Jesus would talk?
3. How did you gain special insight into the correct way Jesus would talk?
4. When other people discuss Jesus, do you always correct them because you have special and important insight into the words and commands of Jesus? Have you appointed yourself as a modern day apostle or teacher on earth, for Jesus Christ?

Please answer, I am intrigued.

Like this statement. “I find it fascinating you tell others how Jesus would talk”. I’m literally just responding to your own statement that you used Jesus name in your thinking of “kindness” to me while offering a criticism. It’s just mind blindness and now deflecting. If I have something negative to say I in no way think that Jesus is directing my actions. You do. I was simply calling out how absurd it was to say you were being kind and how it was somehow related to Jesus. You did this not me

Jesus commands us to love our neighbor like ourselves. You aren’t my neighbor but why should I not interact with you in kindness?

You are declaring every religious person is a hypocrite and all religion is built on thousands of years of hypocrisy.

Those are not kind statements and thoughts.

You then go on to “correct” people for “faking kindness” and go further to say kind words mask “disgust.”

You are not right about either of your statements that my words are fake kindness and I sm definitely not disgusted by you.

I am sorry you live in a world where you think everyone (at least religious people) are faking kindness or outright disgusted by you. That’s a terrible way to live.

Are you saying that you are being kind to this person only because Jesus commands you to?

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I think she’s thinking that she’s holding back on being meaner because of Jesus. In reality she’s not being kind at all. I mean sometimes criticism is warranted but it’s not done in all kindness. Kindness and criticism do not go together. I find a lot of people think they are being kind simply for restraining themselves a bit.

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Or they think that Jesus is calling them to speak out about something and since Jesus is kind they are kind? The logic goes something like this

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But I’ll let her respond why she used Jesus and kindness in the name of her criticism. And hopefully she can give her own accord as to why deeply religious people commit adultery and other sins of the flesh with such ease and little remorse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do they justify it or live with the hypocrisy? SIL studies the Bible and goes to mass every week but cheated. Not just once but long term. Besides the family being floored when we found out, I’m genuinely curious how she or anyone with a faith-based life reconciles that.

Falwell fans lol how do they look at a bible

Or Mormon bible thumpers

Or even Trump lol family man hahaha

Bible thumpers have never read the Bible and are the biggest cheaters of them all

And by the way biggest child abusers and child porn watchers this is a fact. Every day in this country some youth minister pastor or priest abuses kids.

Affairs from the religious crowd right up there with their daily food intake

Yet they want to control the rest of us

This should all end well right?

I mean look at Tennessee GOP Sexton mr religious lol 😂 liar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do they justify it or live with the hypocrisy? SIL studies the Bible and goes to mass every week but cheated. Not just once but long term. Besides the family being floored when we found out, I’m genuinely curious how she or anyone with a faith-based life reconciles that.

Falwell fans lol how do they look at a bible

Or Mormon bible thumpers

Or even Trump lol family man hahaha

Bible thumpers have never read the Bible and are the biggest cheaters of them all

And by the way biggest child abusers and child porn watchers this is a fact. Every day in this country some youth minister pastor or priest abuses kids.

Affairs from the religious crowd right up there with their daily food intake

Yet they want to control the rest of us

This should all end well right?

I mean look at Tennessee GOP Sexton mr religious lol 😂 liar

Research generally suggests a negative relationship between religiosity and infidelity; as one is more religious, his or her likelihood of infidelity decreases, and vice versa.

Both church attendance and biblical beliefs are associated with lower odds of self-reported infidelity.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0192513X07304269

I am not going to address the rest of your crappy, lying post.

You don’t have any links or sources to prove your derogatory and hostile statements.

There are religious people who are not nice people, and do bad things, but anti-theist liars who populate this board-like you, pp- are not nice either. You exhibit terrible behavior and nobody would want to be around you. You are just as bigoted and hateful as the worst example of a bigoted and hateful religious person.

You make wild, accusatory statements not backed up by facts, truth, or statistics. You add nothing to the discussion but lies and misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Overall, Democrats, adults who didn't grow up in intact families, and those who rarely or never attend religious services are more likely than others to have cheated on their spouse.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Overall, Democrats, adults who didn't grow up in intact families, and those who rarely or never attend religious services are more likely than others to have cheated on their spouse.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america

According to Sourcewatch, the group that pp links to: The Institute for Family Studies (IFS) ..."is a conservative "think tank" which, according to its website, has the expressed mission "to strengthen marriage and natural family and advancing the well-being of children through research and public education."[1] Research from IFS and its employees are frequently cited and published in both conservative outlets such as National Review [2] and more mainstream ones, like the Washington Post.[3]. "IFS is a successor to the Ridge Foundation, through which Bradley and others used to support Wilcox's National Marriage Project."[1] The Institute for Family Studies says that its "commitment is rooted in the social-science fact that children are most likely to thrive when they are raised by their own married biological parents. The underlying premise of its work is that families and communities, freedom and prosperity, and the political order itself -- both at home and abroad -- are all critically dependent upon the existence of a strong healthy, pervasive marriage culture among the citizenry."[4]

IFS is also an associate member of the State Policy Network (SPN), a web of state pressure groups that denote themselves as "think tanks" and drive a right-wing agenda in statehouses nationwide." https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_for_Family_Studies

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Overall, Democrats, adults who didn't grow up in intact families, and those who rarely or never attend religious services are more likely than others to have cheated on their spouse.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america

According to Sourcewatch, the group that pp links to: The Institute for Family Studies (IFS) ..."is a conservative "think tank" which, according to its website, has the expressed mission "to strengthen marriage and natural family and advancing the well-being of children through research and public education."[1] Research from IFS and its employees are frequently cited and published in both conservative outlets such as National Review [2] and more mainstream ones, like the Washington Post.[3]. "IFS is a successor to the Ridge Foundation, through which Bradley and others used to support Wilcox's National Marriage Project."[1] The Institute for Family Studies says that its "commitment is rooted in the social-science fact that children are most likely to thrive when they are raised by their own married biological parents. The underlying premise of its work is that families and communities, freedom and prosperity, and the political order itself -- both at home and abroad -- are all critically dependent upon the existence of a strong healthy, pervasive marriage culture among the citizenry."[4]

IFS is also an associate member of the State Policy Network (SPN), a web of state pressure groups that denote themselves as "think tanks" and drive a right-wing agenda in statehouses nationwide." https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_for_Family_Studies

oddly you don’t seem to care pp posted lots and lots of statements about religious people, child porn, adultery, etc, without one source to back up any of their statements. Why not? If the source quoted by many many many mainstream news organizations isn’t good enough for you personally- why don’t you take pp to task for posting unsourced and unverifiable statements?

[Anonymous]

When It Comes To Infidelity, Democrats Are More Forgiving
Poll Finds Infidelity Is More Acceptable For This Political Party

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infidelity-poll_n_5433633

Most Americans agree that extramarital affairs are wrong, but a new poll from Gallup shows that Democrats are more forgiving of infidelity than Republicans.
Gallup polled 1,028 adults aged 18 and older in the U.S. and, of the Democrats surveyed, 13 percent said extramarital affairs are morally acceptable. Only one percent of Republicans said the same.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/170789/new-record-highs-moral-acceptability.aspx

Gallup hopefully is acceptable, pp.

Maybe I should just post utter nonsense like the pp who went off the deep end about how “religious people commit adultery bible thumpers child porn TRUMP!!!!!” because nobody says boo to a nut like that. Yikes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Overall, Democrats, adults who didn't grow up in intact families, and those who rarely or never attend religious services are more likely than others to have cheated on their spouse.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america

According to Sourcewatch, the group that pp links to: The Institute for Family Studies (IFS) ..."is a conservative "think tank" which, according to its website, has the expressed mission "to strengthen marriage and natural family and advancing the well-being of children through research and public education."[1] Research from IFS and its employees are frequently cited and published in both conservative outlets such as National Review [2] and more mainstream ones, like the Washington Post.[3]. "IFS is a successor to the Ridge Foundation, through which Bradley and others used to support Wilcox's National Marriage Project."[1] The Institute for Family Studies says that its "commitment is rooted in the social-science fact that children are most likely to thrive when they are raised by their own married biological parents. The underlying premise of its work is that families and communities, freedom and prosperity, and the political order itself -- both at home and abroad -- are all critically dependent upon the existence of a strong healthy, pervasive marriage culture among the citizenry."[4]

IFS is also an associate member of the State Policy Network (SPN), a web of state pressure groups that denote themselves as "think tanks" and drive a right-wing agenda in statehouses nationwide." https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Institute_for_Family_Studies

oddly you don’t seem to care pp posted lots and lots of statements about religious people, child porn, adultery, etc, without one source to back up any of their statements. Why not? If the source quoted by many many many mainstream news organizations isn’t good enough for you personally- why don’t you take pp to task for posting unsourced and unverifiable statements?

Stating a personal opinion is different from stating an official position

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When It Comes To Infidelity, Democrats Are More Forgiving
Poll Finds Infidelity Is More Acceptable For This Political Party

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/infidelity-poll_n_5433633

Most Americans agree that extramarital affairs are wrong, but a new poll from Gallup shows that Democrats are more forgiving of infidelity than Republicans.
Gallup polled 1,028 adults aged 18 and older in the U.S. and, of the Democrats surveyed, 13 percent said extramarital affairs are morally acceptable. Only one percent of Republicans said the same.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/170789/new-record-highs-moral-acceptability.aspx

Gallup hopefully is acceptable, pp.

Maybe I should just post utter nonsense like the pp who went off the deep end about how “religious people commit adultery bible thumpers child porn TRUMP!!!!!” because nobody says boo to a nut like that. Yikes.

FYI - this poll was conducted 9 years ago