Quake reveals day of Jesus' crucifixion, researchers believe

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

So that’s a yes.

You do, in fact, call other people’s religious beliefs “myths”.

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

So that’s a yes.

You do, in fact, call other people’s religious beliefs “myths”.

No, if someone is an adherent of an ancient pagan religion, that’s their religion. 98% of people living in Greece identify as Orthodox Christian. There is probably a handful of people who identify as pagan. That’s their religion if that’s what they choose.

I don’t classify what universities, academia, and scholarship and all relevant fields call myths. I know that those people and institutions don’t classify religions as myths. I know people who aren’t educated are confused, non-professional, and lacking relevant knowledge and expertise to make judgments about these issues. I am engaging a person like that right now, but will soon not be.

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

They're all myths and they're all religions.

It's "religion" to a believer. It's "myth" to a non-believer. But there really isn't any difference between a myth and a religion, conceptually speaking.

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

They're all myths and they're all religions.

It's "religion" to a believer. It's "myth" to a non-believer. But there really isn't any difference between a myth and a religion, conceptually speaking.

You are wrong. You don’t have relevant education or knowledge to back up your statement . No one should take you say seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

So that’s a yes.

You do, in fact, call other people’s religious beliefs “myths”.

No, if someone is an adherent of an ancient pagan religion, that’s their religion. 98% of people living in Greece identify as Orthodox Christian. There is probably a handful of people who identify as pagan. That’s their religion if that’s what they choose.

I don’t classify what universities, academia, and scholarship and all relevant fields call myths. I know that those people and institutions don’t classify religions as myths. I know people who aren’t educated are confused, non-professional, and lacking relevant knowledge and expertise to make judgments about these issues. I am engaging a person like that right now, but will soon not be.

So you don’t call them myths? Even though universities and scholars do?

Or you do, and you don’t want to admit it?

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

They're all myths and they're all religions.

It's "religion" to a believer. It's "myth" to a non-believer. But there really isn't any difference between a myth and a religion, conceptually speaking.

You are wrong. You don’t have relevant education or knowledge to back up your statement . No one should take you say seriously.

What is the difference between Christianity and Ancient Greek religious beliefs?

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

They're all myths and they're all religions.

It's "religion" to a believer. It's "myth" to a non-believer. But there really isn't any difference between a myth and a religion, conceptually speaking.

You are wrong. You don’t have relevant education or knowledge to back up your statement . No one should take you say seriously.

What is the difference between Christianity and Ancient Greek religious beliefs?

Lots of people still believe the Christian stories. No one believes the Greek stories any more, though people are still familiar with them.

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

They're all myths and they're all religions.

It's "religion" to a believer. It's "myth" to a non-believer. But there really isn't any difference between a myth and a religion, conceptually speaking.

You are wrong. You don’t have relevant education or knowledge to back up your statement . No one should take you say seriously.

What is the difference between Christianity and Ancient Greek religious beliefs?

Lots of people still believe the Christian stories. No one believes the Greek stories any more, though people are still familiar with them.

So the difference is timing?

Similarities:
God(s) with supernatural powers
Rituals
Designated places to worship
Many believers

Difference:
2000 years

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

They're all myths and they're all religions.

It's "religion" to a believer. It's "myth" to a non-believer. But there really isn't any difference between a myth and a religion, conceptually speaking.

You are wrong. You don’t have relevant education or knowledge to back up your statement . No one should take you say seriously.

Ok, so prove me wrong. What's the conceptual difference between a myth and a religious story?

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

They're all myths and they're all religions.

It's "religion" to a believer. It's "myth" to a non-believer. But there really isn't any difference between a myth and a religion, conceptually speaking.

You are wrong. You don’t have relevant education or knowledge to back up your statement . No one should take you say seriously.

What is the difference between Christianity and Ancient Greek religious beliefs?

Lots of people still believe the Christian stories. No one believes the Greek stories any more, though people are still familiar with them.

So the difference is timing?

Similarities:
God(s) with supernatural powers
Rituals
Designated places to worship
Many believers

Difference:
2000 years

You got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

So what do you call the ancient Norse beliefs? Or Greek? Roman?

ancient belief systems that no longer have adherents (such as classical Greek, Roman, Norse mythology based on a pantheon of gods and goddesses) were abandoned in favor of Christianity 1,000 years ago.

That you don’t know that is telling.

By the Early Middle Ages (800–1000), faiths referred to as pagan had mostly disappeared in the West.

So do you call them “myths” or not?

What do the historians, archaeologists, professors, researchers, authors of all stripes, academics, etc, call them?

Are you a highly educated professional, currently working within the fields of or studying mythology or religion? No, you are just some anti-theist who wants to debate religious people.

You can’t accept your own beliefs/opinions, and show your inadequacy by constantly trying to prove others wrong. Who cares? Live your life and let others do the same. There is a reason Christianity is the world’s largest religion. You don’t have to be a Christian. You have complete freedom to live as a non-religious person, if you are an American. You don’t have to pray, attend church, celebrate any religious ceremonies, etc.

Anti-theists try to proselytize here constantly. And it is utterly absurd and a huge display of ignorance and failure when they do.

They're all myths and they're all religions.

It's "religion" to a believer. It's "myth" to a non-believer. But there really isn't any difference between a myth and a religion, conceptually speaking.

You are wrong. You don’t have relevant education or knowledge to back up your statement . No one should take you say seriously.

Ok, so prove me wrong. What's the conceptual difference between a myth and a religious story?

Don't hold your breath. All pp has now are ad hominem attacks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

This is inaccurate. Myths are stories that (re)tell something important to a culture/group about how something came to be. The Noah's flood story isn't more "religious" than the Greek story about Persephone and Demeter. They're both stories, they're both religious myths.

Because with the knowledge we have in the present, we know that both never happened just as the story told. Seasons occur... floods occur... but there's no supernatural intervention or force. People developed the stories to help explain something they didn't understand at the time.

Actually, not that it matters to this thread, but if people are going to argue about the use of the term myth then at least get it right. Scholars in many fields use the term "myth" to refer to a sacred story that is believed to be true. By that definition, the story of Christ is a myth, as well as the story of Apollo. There is no judgement in the scholarly use of the term as to whether the story is true or not - just that it is believed to be true by those who are telling it. It is actually a kind of pet peeve among those scholars that the term is used in conversational English to mean a story that is not true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There was also articles about a comet either 2 years before or after 0 AD that was thought to be the star of Bethlehem.

Also if you like this stuff read the great flood about archeological discovery into a major flood in the ancient world (when a river reversed course and flooded a major civilized area) that is thought to give rise to the Noah story.

I believe that the Noah flood myth was connected to other Mesopotamian people’s global flood myths so it makes sense it was based on a cataclysmic flood event on the Mesopotamian river at some point.

Scholars believe that the flood myth originated in Mesopotamia during the Old Babylonian Period (c.1880-1595 BCE) and reached Syro-Palestine in the latter half of the 2nd millennium BCE.[20] Extant texts show three distinct versions, the Sumerian Epic of Ziusudra, (the oldest, found in very fragmentary form on a single tablet dating from about 1600 BCE, although the story itself is older), and as episodes in two Akkadian language epics, the Atrahasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh.[21] The name of the hero, according to the version concerned, was Ziusudra, Atrahasis, or Utnapishtim, all of which are variations of each other, and it is just possible that an abbreviation of Utnapishtim/Utna'ishtim as "na'ish" was pronounced "Noah" in Palestine.

Numerous parallels make clear that the Genesis flood narrative is dependent on the Mesopotamian epics, and particularly on Gilgamesh, which is thought to date from c.1300-1000 BCE

The Hebrew version is clearly rich in symbolism but I don’t think we need to take it literally to appreciate beautiful lessons from it (eg rainbow as sign of God restoring his covenant of faithful relationship with his people).

It's rude to reference someone's religious text like "the Noah's flood myth." or "the Prophet Mohammed myth" etc. Geez

Is it rude to refer to the Odin myth? Or the thetans myth? Or Wiccan myths? Or a Native American myths? Or even pagan myths people believe in?

You’ll have to explain to me if it’s not. You’ll have to explain to me the difference. Your statement is essentially that the word myth is not applicable anywhere ever.

The term religion defines a system of formally organized beliefs and practices typically centered around the worship of supernatural forces or beings.

Myths are stories that are based on tradition.

I don’t call anyone’s religious beliefs myths.

This is inaccurate. Myths are stories that (re)tell something important to a culture/group about how something came to be. The Noah's flood story isn't more "religious" than the Greek story about Persephone and Demeter. They're both stories, they're both religious myths.

Because with the knowledge we have in the present, we know that both never happened just as the story told. Seasons occur... floods occur... but there's no supernatural intervention or force. People developed the stories to help explain something they didn't understand at the time.

Actually, not that it matters to this thread, but if people are going to argue about the use of the term myth then at least get it right. Scholars in many fields use the term "myth" to refer to a sacred story that is believed to be true. By that definition, the story of Christ is a myth, as well as the story of Apollo. There is no judgement in the scholarly use of the term as to whether the story is true or not - just that it is believed to be true by those who are telling it. It is actually a kind of pet peeve among those scholars that the term is used in conversational English to mean a story that is not true.

Interesting --- and I can see people getting upset by the idea that a story has to be factual in order to be important.