WashU, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern?

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious. OP — sure, your kid should go with fit. But please do not let these WashU and Vandy strivers tell you that their school is in the same league as NU. It’s not. NU is an Ivy Plus school who’s peers are Duke, Chicago, Penn, Columbia, etc. A T10 school. Northwestern has a t14 law school and an M7 business school. It is an MBB powerhouse and has a high IB success rate.

Vanderbilt and especially WashU have none of those things, they would have zero national relevance without the US News rankings. I know 3 kids going to WashU, 3 Northwestern rejects.

This NU booster won’t give up. Notice that the only way they boost NU is by putting down others. Theykeep saying it because they believe by doing so, eventually others will start to believe it.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious. OP — sure, your kid should go with fit. But please do not let these WashU and Vandy strivers tell you that their school is in the same league as NU. It’s not. NU is an Ivy Plus school who’s peers are Duke, Chicago, Penn, Columbia, etc. A T10 school. Northwestern has a t14 law school and an M7 business school. It is an MBB powerhouse and has a high IB success rate.

Vanderbilt and especially WashU have none of those things, they would have zero national relevance without the US News rankings. I know 3 kids going to WashU, 3 Northwestern rejects.

Kind of pathetic what PP does here. Her line of reasoning is pretty much the same throughout this thread with slight variations. First she tries to associate Northwestern with the Ivies and with UChicago in an attempt to bring it up. Then she uses the USNWR ranking to boast how highly ranked Northwestern is while using the same ranking to put down Vandy and Wustl which are also both highly ranked. And then she ends by saying that she knows 3 Northwestern rejects who went to Wustl as if that finally clinches it. Well, I happen to know many Wustl "rejects" who went to Northwestern. Does that mean Northwestern is a terrible school? No, I would never stoop to their level because I think its better to think more rationally and fairly.

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Anonymous wrote:Poets&Quants' Top Ten B-Schools of 2023:

https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/rankings/poetsquants-best-undergraduate-business-schools-of-2023/

Why would the ranking of undergraduate school rankings be important when OP's kid doesn't want to study business, and at least one school on the list (NU) doesn't have an undergraduate business school?

Vandy doesn’t have an undergrad school of business

They have an equivalent they just call it something else.

No, they really don’t.

- Vandy parent

Yes they do
- Vandy current parent

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Anonymous wrote:WashU for a student not completely clear on what they want to major/minor in or want the flexibility to change their minds while in college. NW and Vandy don't have as much flexibility.

The above quoted post is incorrect.

Northwestern allows any student to change schools (except for Bienen School of Music as auditions are required) if they want. Easy to triple major at Northwestern.

OP: Three outstanding choices. While Northwestern is the most prestigious, all 3 are highly respected and can get you where you want to go in the real world.

Students love all three schools, so visit each school and go with the one where you feel most comfortable.

Northwestern does have the best economics dept. among the three schools, but it is also probably the most competitive.

If I had to rate the choices: 1) Northwestern 2) is a tie between Vanderbilt & WUSTL.

Actually, it IS correct. While Northwestern may have some flexibility, Wustl is well known for is flexibility to the point where it is easy to transfer from say a history major to an engineering or comp sci major which is typically very difficult to do and for those majors you often have to apply directly to those schools

All your post does is prove that you are unfamiliar with Northwestern University. NU is very flexible regarding change of schools and majors or offers the ability to triple major. However, this does not mean that WUSTL is inflexible. More than one major university can be flexible regarding academics.

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FWIW A prominent Northwestern University School of Law professor recently became the Dean of WashUStL School of Law.

Regarding the undergrad schools, select based on major and on location. We all know the US News rankings, but all three are solid universities socially & academically. (But, if one is targeting elite management consulting or investment banking, then Northwestern is the best option.)

The Fiske Guide To Colleges 2023 awards four (4) pens to Vanderbilt for academics , 4.5 to WashUStL, and the full 5 pens to Northwestern for academics. However, Vanderbilt & WashUStL score a bit higher than Northwestern for "quality of life" and a bit higher for "social life". Social life is an indication of drinking/party school status so being ranked higher in this category could be a positive or a negative depending upon the student.

Between Vanderbilt & Northwestern, there is a difference in academics, while the difference in academics between WashUStL and Northwestern is less. Probably means less stress at Vanderbilt & WashUStL.

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We are talking about undergrad.

Who brought in law school and MBA?

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Northwesterns IB placement is worse than Vandy but better than WashUs.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

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Anonymous wrote:Northwesterns IB placement is worse than Vandy but better than WashUs.
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

Not really accurate.

The first table shows Northwestern had 85 employed in major IB versus Vanderbilt's 77.

The second table reveals a tie, but somehow Vanderbilt placement shot up to 84 while Northwestern's remained at 85.

Northwestern does quite well for Management Consulting, but less well for IB as there is no undergrad finance major.

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OP: You might find the yield rates to be of interest--(although for a potential econ & CS major Northwestern is the clear winner):

Yield rate 2022 (Class of 2026):

Northwestern--63%

WashUStL--49%

Vanderbilt--48%

Other schools:

Duke's yield rate --56%

Cornell--63.5%

Dartmouth--63.7%

Emory--35%

Notre Dame--60%

Rice--45%

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Northwestern.

Not a booster for the school as some ppl on this thread might want to claim. I would really choose between Northwestern and Vanderbilt (and land on Northwestern). Not sure I’d go with washu unless I had some really important reason to be connected to Missouri.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious. OP — sure, your kid should go with fit. But please do not let these WashU and Vandy strivers tell you that their school is in the same league as NU. It’s not. NU is an Ivy Plus school who’s peers are Duke, Chicago, Penn, Columbia, etc. A T10 school. Northwestern has a t14 law school and an M7 business school. It is an MBB powerhouse and has a high IB success rate.

Vanderbilt and especially WashU have none of those things, they would have zero national relevance without the US News rankings. I know 3 kids going to WashU, 3 Northwestern rejects.

Kind of pathetic what PP does here. Her line of reasoning is pretty much the same throughout this thread with slight variations. First she tries to associate Northwestern with the Ivies and with UChicago in an attempt to bring it up. Then she uses the USNWR ranking to boast how highly ranked Northwestern is while using the same ranking to put down Vandy and Wustl which are also both highly ranked. And then she ends by saying that she knows 3 Northwestern rejects who went to Wustl as if that finally clinches it. Well, I happen to know many Wustl "rejects" who went to Northwestern. Does that mean Northwestern is a terrible school? No, I would never stoop to their level because I think its better to think more rationally and fairly.

Has it crossed your mind that perhaps there isn’t one “booster” on this thread and that the majority of people simply might think Northwestern is the superior school of these three options? Serious question.

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New poster.

What career path? Banking? Business? Law?
Northwestern is the clear choice in my head, but I haven’t read all the posts here.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading through threads like these reminds me of how uninformed and/or uneducated people on DCUM can be.

OP, it would be a rare student who chooses WUSTL over either Vanderbilt or Northwestern. Between Vandy and NU the edge goes to Northwestern, particularly for the fields you listed.

That said, there are nebulous tertiary factors to consider, such as “fit”, weather, and the ability to see oneself thrive in an environment for four years.

For the record, I am unaffiliated with all three schools, though I have close friends who attended Vanderbilt.

You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

Not PP, but I know 4 kids at WUSTL in the last 5 years. 3 of them ED1 at NU and didn't get it---it was their dream school. Just a few data points. Really they are all great schools.
But I doubt you will find many kids at NU who "wanted WUSTL" but didn't get in.

There will always be some anecdotal evidence. Not saying that Vandy or WashU is for everyone, certainly not, but I believe its in the same league as NU.

You are entitled to your opinions. However, the rankings and facts demonstrate NU is slightly above Vandy or WashU.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading through threads like these reminds me of how uninformed and/or uneducated people on DCUM can be.

OP, it would be a rare student who chooses WUSTL over either Vanderbilt or Northwestern. Between Vandy and NU the edge goes to Northwestern, particularly for the fields you listed.

That said, there are nebulous tertiary factors to consider, such as “fit”, weather, and the ability to see oneself thrive in an environment for four years.

For the record, I am unaffiliated with all three schools, though I have close friends who attended Vanderbilt.

You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

Not PP, but I know 4 kids at WUSTL in the last 5 years. 3 of them ED1 at NU and didn't get it---it was their dream school. Just a few data points. Really they are all great schools.
But I doubt you will find many kids at NU who "wanted WUSTL" but didn't get in.

There will always be some anecdotal evidence. Not saying that Vandy or WashU is for everyone, certainly not, but I believe its in the same league as NU.

You are entitled to your opinions. However, the rankings and facts demonstrate NU is slightly above Vandy or WashU.

It's not an opinion, but nice try. Not stating one is better than the other as every ranking is different but in general they're at the same level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Northwestern.

Not a booster for the school as some ppl on this thread might want to claim. I would really choose between Northwestern and Vanderbilt (and land on Northwestern). Not sure I’d go with washu unless I had some really important reason to be connected to Missouri.

Pretty ignorant statement Many colleges, including WUSTL lean way left