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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?


I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.


Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.


The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.


Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?


Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.


Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.


It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.


By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.


There's really no shame in this. It's very common.


It obviously didn't work for you.


My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.


Do you feel shame?


Not really since it's so common these days.


Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.


An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.
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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?


I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.


Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.


The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.


but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?


Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.


Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.


It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.


By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.


There's really no shame in this. It's very common.


It obviously didn't work for you.


My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.


Do you feel shame?


Not really since it's so common these days.


Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.


An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.
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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?


I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.


Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.


The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.


but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?


Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.


Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.


It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.


By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.


There's really no shame in this. It's very common.


It obviously didn't work for you.


My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.


Do you feel shame?


Not really since it's so common these days.


Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.


An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that
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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?


I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.


Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.


The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.


but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?


Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.


Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.


It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.


By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.


There's really no shame in this. It's very common.


It obviously didn't work for you.


My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.


Do you feel shame?


Not really since it's so common these days.


Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.


An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that


Not true. People have posted that they did not add anything to the packet and their child was accepted. Sometimes it is just a matter of having a different set of eyes on the packet.
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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?


I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.


Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.


The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.


but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?


Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.


Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.


It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.


By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.


There's really no shame in this. It's very common.


It obviously didn't work for you.


My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.


Do you feel shame?


Not really since it's so common these days.


Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.


An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that


Not true. People have posted that they did not add anything to the packet and their child was accepted. Sometimes it is just a matter of having a different set of eyes on the packet.


but a gifted diagnosis would be better...
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The poster who keeps harping on a "private diagnosis" needs to go away or just be ignored. They pepper many of the AAP threads with this baloney. They're not worth engaging.
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Anonymous wrote:The poster who keeps harping on a "private diagnosis" needs to go away or just be ignored. They pepper many of the AAP threads with this baloney. They're not worth engaging.


I know! I wish they'd stop telling others about the backdoor. It's so annoying.
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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?


I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.


Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.


The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.


but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?


Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.


Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.


It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.


By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.


There's really no shame in this. It's very common.


It obviously didn't work for you.


My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.


Do you feel shame?


Not really since it's so common these days.


Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.


An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that


Not true. People have posted that they did not add anything to the packet and their child was accepted. Sometimes it is just a matter of having a different set of eyes on the packet.


but a gifted diagnosis would be better...

There is no such thing as a "gifted diagnosis." The WISC is largely discounted these days, and there's nothing else that a psychologist could give you that amounts to a "gifted diagnosis." For 2E kids, the process to get a diagnosis is much longer than the appeals window, and it would not be feasible for anyone to get a diagnosis in that timeframe.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?


I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.


Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.


The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.


but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?


Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.


Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.


It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.


By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.


There's really no shame in this. It's very common.


It obviously didn't work for you.


My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.


Do you feel shame?


Not really since it's so common these days.


Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.


An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that


Not true. People have posted that they did not add anything to the packet and their child was accepted. Sometimes it is just a matter of having a different set of eyes on the packet.


but a gifted diagnosis would be better...

There is no such thing as a "gifted diagnosis." The WISC is largely discounted these days, and there's nothing else that a psychologist could give you that amounts to a "gifted diagnosis." For 2E kids, the process to get a diagnosis is much longer than the appeals window, and it would not be feasible for anyone to get a diagnosis in that timeframe.



This. There is no "diagnosis". If the child scores high on the WISC, that could be an additional data point, but it's not even clear if the committee cares about that.
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We moved from MD to VD in fourth grade, we never bothered with AAP, my son is in advanced math at his base school and just got into Algebra at Longfellow, 99 percentile.

If you kid is truly gifted, don’t sweat too much. We supplemented plenty at home and our base school in McLean was better than AAP. My point is it’s not end of the world, mat h can be enriched in lots of ways.
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Anonymous wrote:The poster who keeps harping on a "private diagnosis" needs to go away or just be ignored. They pepper many of the AAP threads with this baloney. They're not worth engaging.


Exactly. He's a bitter, sad man. His kids didn't make it and he's been stewing for years. Classic loser.
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Out of curiosity, has anyone requested/received a copy of their child’s packet from their school yet? Our AART indicated that copies of the GBRSs could be provided to parents after the files are sent up to the central screening committee. But it’s unclear to me when that actually happens.
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Anonymous wrote:The poster who keeps harping on a "private diagnosis" needs to go away or just be ignored. They pepper many of the AAP threads with this baloney. They're not worth engaging.


Exactly. He's a bitter, sad man. His kids didn't make it and he's been stewing for years. Classic loser.


Well, I heard Karen got her kids in APP through the backdoor and just wants to share this method with others.
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Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, has anyone requested/received a copy of their child’s packet from their school yet? Our AART indicated that copies of the GBRSs could be provided to parents after the files are sent up to the central screening committee. But it’s unclear to me when that actually happens.


Yes, requested and Received a week or two ago. Email your AART and request a copy of the packet.
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Anonymous wrote:Out of curiosity, has anyone requested/received a copy of their child’s packet from their school yet? Our AART indicated that copies of the GBRSs could be provided to parents after the files are sent up to the central screening committee. But it’s unclear to me when that actually happens.


I requested, but was told that I needed to meet with the AART in-person to review it.
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