AAP for dummies

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?

I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.

Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.

Wouldn’t parents with deep pockets just send their kids to private school?

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?

I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.

Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.

Wouldn’t parents with deep pockets just send their kids to private school?

There is always an exodus of kids who don’t get aap leaving for private or parochial.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?

I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.

Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.

Wouldn’t parents with deep pockets just send their kids to private school?

Depends on your idea of deep pockets, but yes truly wealthy parents wouldn't bother. AAP is mostly for the UMC parents that can't shell out $40k+ per year per kid

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?

I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.

Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.

Wouldn’t parents with deep pockets just send their kids to private school?

There is always an exodus of kids who don’t get aap leaving for private or parochial.

My sister did that but lived to regret it. So much of the time was spent on indoctrination and pro-life lessons.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?

I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.

Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.

The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?

Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.

Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.

It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.

By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.

There's really no shame in this. It's very common.

It obviously didn't work for you.

My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.

Do you feel shame?

Not really since it's so common these days.

Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.

An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Not true. People have posted that they did not add anything to the packet and their child was accepted. Sometimes it is just a matter of having a different set of eyes on the packet.

but a gifted diagnosis would be better...

Nothing wrong with buying a gifted diagnosis. Seems like half the kids at our center got in that way.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?

I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.

Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.

The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?

Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.

Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.

It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.

By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.

There's really no shame in this. It's very common.

It obviously didn't work for you.

My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.

Do you feel shame?

Not really since it's so common these days.

Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.

An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Not true. People have posted that they did not add anything to the packet and their child was accepted. Sometimes it is just a matter of having a different set of eyes on the packet.

but a gifted diagnosis would be better...

Nothing wrong with buying a gifted diagnosis. Seems like half the kids at our center got in that way.

LOL, you again...

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?

I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.

Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.

The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?

Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.

Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.

It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.

By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.

There's really no shame in this. It's very common.

It obviously didn't work for you.

My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.

Do you feel shame?

Not really since it's so common these days.

Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.

An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Not true. People have posted that they did not add anything to the packet and their child was accepted. Sometimes it is just a matter of having a different set of eyes on the packet.

but a gifted diagnosis would be better...

Nothing wrong with buying a gifted diagnosis. Seems like half the kids at our center got in that way.

Seriously, stop spreading this around. It's supposed to be a backdoor. If everyone finds out, it will be a front door and anyone could get into AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?

I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.

Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.

The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?

Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.

Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.

It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.

By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.

There's really no shame in this. It's very common.

It obviously didn't work for you.

My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.

Do you feel shame?

Not really since it's so common these days.

Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.

An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Not true. People have posted that they did not add anything to the packet and their child was accepted. Sometimes it is just a matter of having a different set of eyes on the packet.

but a gifted diagnosis would be better...

Nothing wrong with buying a gifted diagnosis. Seems like half the kids at our center got in that way.

Seriously, stop spreading this around. It's supposed to be a backdoor. If everyone finds out, it will be a front door and anyone could get into AAP.

I’m seriously split on whether this is sarcasm or the person who makes excessive posts about the back door. If it’s sarcasm, I tip my cap to you!

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Anonymous wrote:New poster here. I totally missed the train on anything AAP related. I didn't realize this was something parents plan and prep for (I'm not from here). I now have a 1st and 3 grader who are very good students but it's becoming apparent that our school environment is not really helping them. There's a lot of disruption in the classroom and good students just go unnoticed. My 3rd grader did not get a high enough score in 2nd grade for AAP. I am not really surprised since he pretty much didn't learn anything during the pandemic (we didn't have a tutor, he hated on-line school and I was overwhelmed). I feel bad for not even trying. What's the way to go? Prep and ask if he can take a COGAT, like PP mentioned?

I think they can take the CogAT one more time through FCPS, so ask the AART about that. They can also take the CogAT or WISC privately if you pay for it. Just apply again next year (the deadline is in December) with new test scores and make sure to submit all of the parent referral forms and some work samples from your DC.

Yes, parents with deep pockets can manage the appeals process and fund private diagnoses to get their children in the backdoor. It's more common than many would like to admit.

The backdoor into AAP has been a well-kept secret despite being fairly common.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Your unhinged delusional perspective is noted, now will you finally go away?

Just because you don't like to admit the truth doesn't make it any less true. This is a matter of fact. Everyone knows it's going on. It's just that some would prefer to keep it secret. Maybe because they're embarrassed that their kids couldn't get in the front door or maybe because they want to keep this available to anyone with means. I don't know or care really but I feel it's only fair to point this out.

Whether your "super-secret-but-everyone-is-doing-it" backdoor is real or not, you convinced the school administration that it is and they are no longer doing it. You can buy as many WISCs as you want but you still won't get your kid in that way anymore.

It's not a question if it's real or not, half the kids get in this way. Not sure why pretending is helping anyone.

By your logic, half the kids are admitted on appeal. That is unequivocally untrue. Your claims are absurd and your jealously is sad. Please get help.

There's really no shame in this. It's very common.

It obviously didn't work for you.

My older child got in the old fashioned way but younger kid had to use the backdoor. It only took 2 appeals.

Do you feel shame?

Not really since it's so common these days.

Almost every parent I've gotten to know at our AAP center has admitted they're kid got in on appeal so I tend to agree.

An appeal does not equate buying a diagnosis. Everyone whose child wasn't selected should appeal.

but if you want your appeal to carry any weight you to submit "new and convincing information" and a private diagnosis does just that

Not true. People have posted that they did not add anything to the packet and their child was accepted. Sometimes it is just a matter of having a different set of eyes on the packet.

but a gifted diagnosis would be better...

Nothing wrong with buying a gifted diagnosis. Seems like half the kids at our center got in that way.

Seriously, stop spreading this around. It's supposed to be a backdoor. If everyone finds out, it will be a front door and anyone could get into AAP.

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What is a gifted ‘diagnosis’? Is it a disease? Or are you talking about an attention deficit diagnosis to be 2E? I can’t get past the high level of snark to even understand what you’re being snarky about…

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Anonymous wrote:What is a gifted ‘diagnosis’? Is it a disease? Or are you talking about an attention deficit diagnosis to be 2E? I can’t get past the high level of snark to even understand what you’re being snarky about…

It's when you pay a psychologist to test your child until you get the desired diagnosis. This allows you to appeal with evidence stating your child is in fact gifted so they will be admitted to AAP even though they weren't able to get in the front door.

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Anonymous wrote:What is a gifted ‘diagnosis’? Is it a disease? Or are you talking about an attention deficit diagnosis to be 2E? I can’t get past the high level of snark to even understand what you’re being snarky about…

It's when you pay a psychologist to test your child until you get the desired diagnosis. This allows you to appeal with evidence stating your child is in fact gifted so they will be admitted to AAP even though they weren't able to get in the front door.

I find your back door comments insensitive. My child had 160 NNAT and 143 COGAT, in pool for AAP. Currently in 2nd grade. She had a full academic/neuro evaluation in December after being on the waiting list for 1+ year. Yes, she is 2e, she has 136 IQ, ADHD and dyslexia. I didn’t buy this diagnosis, it is very real. I see the struggles every day, but doesn’t mean she is not deserving of an AAP education. I don’t know if she is in, but you bet I will be appealing if she doesn’t. Is that a back door? Her tests scores say otherwise. Who are you to say these kids are not deserving because they got accepted on appeal?

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Way up thread there was mention of LC’s new gifted program. If you’re inclined, Fauquier also has one that’s pretty rad.

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Anonymous wrote:What is a gifted ‘diagnosis’? Is it a disease? Or are you talking about an attention deficit diagnosis to be 2E? I can’t get past the high level of snark to even understand what you’re being snarky about…

It's when you pay a psychologist to test your child until you get the desired diagnosis. This allows you to appeal with evidence stating your child is in fact gifted so they will be admitted to AAP even though they weren't able to get in the front door.

I find your back door comments insensitive. My child had 160 NNAT and 143 COGAT, in pool for AAP. Currently in 2nd grade. She had a full academic/neuro evaluation in December after being on the waiting list for 1+ year. Yes, she is 2e, she has 136 IQ, ADHD and dyslexia. I didn’t buy this diagnosis, it is very real. I see the struggles every day, but doesn’t mean she is not deserving of an AAP education. I don’t know if she is in, but you bet I will be appealing if she doesn’t. Is that a back door? Her tests scores say otherwise. Who are you to say these kids are not deserving because they got accepted on appeal?

Ignore the poster who claims everyone gets in via some mythological purchased diagnosis. He's unhinged.

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Anonymous wrote:What is a gifted ‘diagnosis’? Is it a disease? Or are you talking about an attention deficit diagnosis to be 2E? I can’t get past the high level of snark to even understand what you’re being snarky about…

It's when you pay a psychologist to test your child until you get the desired diagnosis. This allows you to appeal with evidence stating your child is in fact gifted so they will be admitted to AAP even though they weren't able to get in the front door.

I find your back door comments insensitive. My child had 160 NNAT and 143 COGAT, in pool for AAP. Currently in 2nd grade. She had a full academic/neuro evaluation in December after being on the waiting list for 1+ year. Yes, she is 2e, she has 136 IQ, ADHD and dyslexia. I didn’t buy this diagnosis, it is very real. I see the struggles every day, but doesn’t mean she is not deserving of an AAP education. I don’t know if she is in, but you bet I will be appealing if she doesn’t. Is that a back door? Her tests scores say otherwise. Who are you to say these kids are not deserving because they got accepted on appeal?

Ignore the poster who claims everyone gets in via some mythological purchased diagnosis. He's unhinged.

I know! Almost half the kids in our center got in the old-fashioned way and didn't need use the backdoor!