Winter is here - waving my white flag at straight leg jeans/pants

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Anonymous wrote:I’m staring to equate “fashionable” with “delicacy”. Usually when food is described as a delicacy I don’t want to eat it, ever. Fashionable seems to strike the same chord for me, people keep telling me how great it is but when it comes down to it, it’s just not for me. The high water wide leg jeans with calf high booties is just plain ugly, makes no sense and unless you are 6 feet tall, rail thin and live in a city where your walk to work is a king to a fashion runway it ultimately looks ridiculous, really it does, I promise. I admire the courage folks have to try it but for the majority of the population, it just doesn’t work. I’ll add it to an ever growing list of fashionable trends that we all knew were bad ideas at the start but many succumbed too in the name of being fashionable: cold shoulder split sleeve tops, hip hugger jeans, over the knee stiletto boots, crop tops…The list keeps going. Trust your guts people, no matter how many glossy pages and insta reels try to convince you otherwise no one really wants calf brain with a side of Rocky Mountain oysters for dinner.

I’m 5’4” but very thin and straight up and down. I jumped on the straight and wide leg pant trends early because I prefer how they feel— I just never liked the feel of skinny jeans and was happy to start wearing something that wasn’t so snug. I also have always loved high waist anything because it helps define my waist (since I’m not super curvy, I love clothes that highlight my waist which is my one “curve”). Plus I like tucking things in, which you can’t do with low rise.

The flat and lug sole boots trend emerged right around the time I stopped wearing heels. I think a lot of people did during Covid. So even though I wasn’t sure how they would look, I was willing to give them a shot, and I found boots with a less prominent lug sole so they wouldn’t overpower my frame.

Turns out, this look is about as flattering on me as skinny jeans were, but a million times more comfortable and practical. Thus, I love it. I’m not a fashion victim, I’m seizing on current trends that work for me. See the difference? If nothing about this trend appeals to you, that’s fine— I don’t think poorly if someone wearing skinny jeans and tall boots or booties or whatever. If it flatters and is put together well, it doesn’t matter. Do what you want.

But this idea that because YOU aren’t interested in this trend, it’s ugly and stupid and anyone who wears it is falling prey to a pointless trend? That’s just sour grapes, friend. I know I look good.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post an example of a bootie that will work with this style jeans, that does not have a lug sole. I am mid 50s and feel too old for those shoes - i want a “regular” sole/heel, but the shaft tall enough so that you don’t see my
ankles.

You’re not working with booties anymore. They’re done. Ankle boots with those fat little heels and almond toes are dated. Look for long slender mid shaft boots with structural heels and long toe boxes. The ankle is slender and comes up to your shin. Very simple to match with any pants; here’s an inexpensive example of what I’m talking about: https://www.asos.com/us/raid/raid-kennedi-mid-heel-chelsea-boots-in-black/prd/201329765?ctaref=we+recommend+grid_13&featureref1=we+recommend+pers

DP, but I don’t have chicken legs, so those don’t work for me. Oh well. Those are the kinds of boots that look dreadful on anyone who is not super thin and leggy.

Any kind of stretch boot should work great for women with thicker legs. They’re much more forgiving than the more traditional leather variety. I say this as a pear-shaped woman who frequently has trouble with boots being too tight in the calf. I probably wouldn’t wear these mid-height ones with skirts because they make my short legs look even shorter but with jeans they’re great.

Thanks, PP. Do you have links to what you’re describing? I actually wore stretch knee-high boots yesterday with a dress, so I love that look, but not sure how it would be with shorter boots. If I’m wearing jeans over the boots, I don’t see how what the shaft looks like matters. I don’t like the high ankle pants with mid-calf boots look - mostly because heels are uncomfortable, and I don’t want flats.

I have these and they fit really well. Super-comfortable and I don't normally like wearing heels. They look great with shorter pants if you decide to give that a try.

https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Souls-Kenneth-Cole-Plumberry/dp/B093P6NYQW?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Thanks, PP. I’m not sure they’d be stretchy enough to fit my lower legs, but they’re cute.

I actually think the pictures of this style (shorter pants, closer fitting mid-calf boots) looks great. Part of my hesitation in trying it is around shopping for still more stuff, which I don’t love doing. I know I could find a cheap pair of pants, but I’m tired of buying cheap clothing, and then I’d also need updated tops to wear them with. As another PP said, I don’t want to drop $$$ every season to be always on trend.

I hear you, PP. RE the boots linked above--I wasn't sure if they'd fit my thick ankles and heavier calves either but decided to give it a try. The very top was a little tight on me out of the box but after a bit of tugging and one day's wear they were perfect.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post an example of a bootie that will work with this style jeans, that does not have a lug sole. I am mid 50s and feel too old for those shoes - i want a “regular” sole/heel, but the shaft tall enough so that you don’t see my
ankles.

You’re not working with booties anymore. They’re done. Ankle boots with those fat little heels and almond toes are dated. Look for long slender mid shaft boots with structural heels and long toe boxes. The ankle is slender and comes up to your shin. Very simple to match with any pants; here’s an inexpensive example of what I’m talking about: https://www.asos.com/us/raid/raid-kennedi-mid-heel-chelsea-boots-in-black/prd/201329765?ctaref=we+recommend+grid_13&featureref1=we+recommend+pers

DP. I completely disagree about the booties being "done". They look great with the straight leg, ankle-length jeans.

Whether you think ankle booties look great or not doesn’t have a thing to do with whether they’re in style. They aren’t. Calf height or shaft boots with structural heels or kitten heels or lug soles are what is in. Not the ankle booties with an almond toe and chunky heel from 2014. Wear what you like obviously, but that’s not the same thing as what is currently fashionable

Kitten heels are absolutely hideous.

Then don’t wear them but don’t also argue that 2012 ankle booties are still in. They aren’t. We have this argument constantly on this board: you can like something even if it isn’t currently fashionable, but then don’t argue it is fashionable when it’s 10 years out of date.

What's fashionable is someone wearing what they like and looking great while doing it. What's unfashionable are lemmings who jump on every trend without a thought as to whether it's flattering or not.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m staring to equate “fashionable” with “delicacy”. Usually when food is described as a delicacy I don’t want to eat it, ever. Fashionable seems to strike the same chord for me, people keep telling me how great it is but when it comes down to it, it’s just not for me. The high water wide leg jeans with calf high booties is just plain ugly, makes no sense and unless you are 6 feet tall, rail thin and live in a city where your walk to work is a king to a fashion runway it ultimately looks ridiculous, really it does, I promise. I admire the courage folks have to try it but for the majority of the population, it just doesn’t work. I’ll add it to an ever growing list of fashionable trends that we all knew were bad ideas at the start but many succumbed too in the name of being fashionable: cold shoulder split sleeve tops, hip hugger jeans, over the knee stiletto boots, crop tops…The list keeps going. Trust your guts people, no matter how many glossy pages and insta reels try to convince you otherwise no one really wants calf brain with a side of Rocky Mountain oysters for dinner.

+ a million
Honestly, people (women) who slavishly follow what's "in" and what's "out" seem to generally lack any critical thinking whatsoever. It shows when you see them parading around in absurd outfits, thinking they actually look great.

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How do people walk in lug sole boots? The sole doesn't even bend.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post an example of a bootie that will work with this style jeans, that does not have a lug sole. I am mid 50s and feel too old for those shoes - i want a “regular” sole/heel, but the shaft tall enough so that you don’t see my
ankles.

You’re not working with booties anymore. They’re done. Ankle boots with those fat little heels and almond toes are dated. Look for long slender mid shaft boots with structural heels and long toe boxes. The ankle is slender and comes up to your shin. Very simple to match with any pants; here’s an inexpensive example of what I’m talking about: https://www.asos.com/us/raid/raid-kennedi-mid-heel-chelsea-boots-in-black/prd/201329765?ctaref=we+recommend+grid_13&featureref1=we+recommend+pers

DP. I completely disagree about the booties being "done". They look great with the straight leg, ankle-length jeans.

Whether you think ankle booties look great or not doesn’t have a thing to do with whether they’re in style. They aren’t. Calf height or shaft boots with structural heels or kitten heels or lug soles are what is in. Not the ankle booties with an almond toe and chunky heel from 2014. Wear what you like obviously, but that’s not the same thing as what is currently fashionable

Kitten heels are absolutely hideous.

Then don’t wear them but don’t also argue that 2012 ankle booties are still in. They aren’t. We have this argument constantly on this board: you can like something even if it isn’t currently fashionable, but then don’t argue it is fashionable when it’s 10 years out of date.

What's fashionable is someone wearing what they like and looking great while doing it. What's unfashionable are lemmings who jump on every trend without a thought as to whether it's flattering or not.

Just say you’re never giving up your 2012 booties and move on, omg. No you don’t look like a fashionable woman with style, you look like someone stuck in the past who hasn’t gone shopping in 10 years. If you like it COOL but it’s so silly to equate being unwilling to adapt to changing styles at all with “I’m fashionable.”

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90% of people in this region aren’t spending more than a few seconds outside when it is cold. It’s funny how people bundle up in this area.

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Anonymous wrote:How do people walk in lug sole boots? The sole doesn't even bend.

Some of us prefer a stiffer sole! I wear clogs, too.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post an example of a bootie that will work with this style jeans, that does not have a lug sole. I am mid 50s and feel too old for those shoes - i want a “regular” sole/heel, but the shaft tall enough so that you don’t see my
ankles.

You’re not working with booties anymore. They’re done. Ankle boots with those fat little heels and almond toes are dated. Look for long slender mid shaft boots with structural heels and long toe boxes. The ankle is slender and comes up to your shin. Very simple to match with any pants; here’s an inexpensive example of what I’m talking about: https://www.asos.com/us/raid/raid-kennedi-mid-heel-chelsea-boots-in-black/prd/201329765?ctaref=we+recommend+grid_13&featureref1=we+recommend+pers

DP, but I don’t have chicken legs, so those don’t work for me. Oh well. Those are the kinds of boots that look dreadful on anyone who is not super thin and leggy.

Any kind of stretch boot should work great for women with thicker legs. They’re much more forgiving than the more traditional leather variety. I say this as a pear-shaped woman who frequently has trouble with boots being too tight in the calf. I probably wouldn’t wear these mid-height ones with skirts because they make my short legs look even shorter but with jeans they’re great.

Thanks, PP. Do you have links to what you’re describing? I actually wore stretch knee-high boots yesterday with a dress, so I love that look, but not sure how it would be with shorter boots. If I’m wearing jeans over the boots, I don’t see how what the shaft looks like matters. I don’t like the high ankle pants with mid-calf boots look - mostly because heels are uncomfortable, and I don’t want flats.

I have these and they fit really well. Super-comfortable and I don't normally like wearing heels. They look great with shorter pants if you decide to give that a try.

https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Souls-Kenneth-Cole-Plumberry/dp/B093P6NYQW?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Thanks, PP. I’m not sure they’d be stretchy enough to fit my lower legs, but they’re cute.

I actually think the pictures of this style (shorter pants, closer fitting mid-calf boots) looks great. Part of my hesitation in trying it is around shopping for still more stuff, which I don’t love doing. I know I could find a cheap pair of pants, but I’m tired of buying cheap clothing, and then I’d also need updated tops to wear them with. As another PP said, I don’t want to drop $$$ every season to be always on trend.

I hear you, PP. RE the boots linked above--I wasn't sure if they'd fit my thick ankles and heavier calves either but decided to give it a try. The very top was a little tight on me out of the box but after a bit of tugging and one day's wear they were perfect.

You’re my kind of boot-wearer! Thanks, PP.

I think this thread highlights the difference (for me) between trends, fashion, and style. I think having one’s own style is about finding what works for you and making it your own, regardless of specific trends. So, someone like that might not be fashionable in the sense of being current, but they have style. On the flip side, someone who jumps from trend to trend is fashionable but doesn’t have a strong sense of what works for them. Both can look great and are fine, of course, but I don’t equate being on trend with having style, as some seem to.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post an example of a bootie that will work with this style jeans, that does not have a lug sole. I am mid 50s and feel too old for those shoes - i want a “regular” sole/heel, but the shaft tall enough so that you don’t see my
ankles.

You’re not working with booties anymore. They’re done. Ankle boots with those fat little heels and almond toes are dated. Look for long slender mid shaft boots with structural heels and long toe boxes. The ankle is slender and comes up to your shin. Very simple to match with any pants; here’s an inexpensive example of what I’m talking about: https://www.asos.com/us/raid/raid-kennedi-mid-heel-chelsea-boots-in-black/prd/201329765?ctaref=we+recommend+grid_13&featureref1=we+recommend+pers

DP, but I don’t have chicken legs, so those don’t work for me. Oh well. Those are the kinds of boots that look dreadful on anyone who is not super thin and leggy.

Any kind of stretch boot should work great for women with thicker legs. They’re much more forgiving than the more traditional leather variety. I say this as a pear-shaped woman who frequently has trouble with boots being too tight in the calf. I probably wouldn’t wear these mid-height ones with skirts because they make my short legs look even shorter but with jeans they’re great.

Thanks, PP. Do you have links to what you’re describing? I actually wore stretch knee-high boots yesterday with a dress, so I love that look, but not sure how it would be with shorter boots. If I’m wearing jeans over the boots, I don’t see how what the shaft looks like matters. I don’t like the high ankle pants with mid-calf boots look - mostly because heels are uncomfortable, and I don’t want flats.

I have these and they fit really well. Super-comfortable and I don't normally like wearing heels. They look great with shorter pants if you decide to give that a try.

https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Souls-Kenneth-Cole-Plumberry/dp/B093P6NYQW?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Thanks, PP. I’m not sure they’d be stretchy enough to fit my lower legs, but they’re cute.

I actually think the pictures of this style (shorter pants, closer fitting mid-calf boots) looks great. Part of my hesitation in trying it is around shopping for still more stuff, which I don’t love doing. I know I could find a cheap pair of pants, but I’m tired of buying cheap clothing, and then I’d also need updated tops to wear them with. As another PP said, I don’t want to drop $$$ every season to be always on trend.

I hear you, PP. RE the boots linked above--I wasn't sure if they'd fit my thick ankles and heavier calves either but decided to give it a try. The very top was a little tight on me out of the box but after a bit of tugging and one day's wear they were perfect.

You’re my kind of boot-wearer! Thanks, PP.

I think this thread highlights the difference (for me) between trends, fashion, and style. I think having one’s own style is about finding what works for you and making it your own, regardless of specific trends. So, someone like that might not be fashionable in the sense of being current, but they have style. On the flip side, someone who jumps from trend to trend is fashionable but doesn’t have a strong sense of what works for them. Both can look great and are fine, of course, but I don’t equate being on trend with having style, as some seem to.

I don't think the people coming onto this thread holding their noses and going "PU!" are really showing themselves to "have style." Their sensibilities just haven't caught up with what happens to be fashionable at the moment and they are having an instinctive aversion to it. That's fine - they can wear whatever they want! - but they aren't, like, better dressed or better people for not seeing what looks nice in today's trends. Also these aren't exactly cray-zee trends - they're slightly looser, slightly shorter jeans, paired with a boot underneath.

Yes, wear what you like and wear what looks good on you. For sure. That doesn't mean that you have style and it doesn't mean that the people who like what's fashionable now are lemmings who are mindlessly following some fashion leader off a cliff

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Anonymous wrote:90% of people in this region aren’t spending more than a few seconds outside when it is cold. It’s funny how people bundle up in this area.

Huh? Lots of people walk/metro to work which involves more than a few seconds. I have kids so I'm definitely outside more than a few seconds.

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Anonymous wrote:90% of people in this region aren’t spending more than a few seconds outside when it is cold. It’s funny how people bundle up in this area.

Huh? Lots of people walk/metro to work which involves more than a few seconds. I have kids so I'm definitely outside more than a few seconds.

Agree - many of us live in walkable city or suburb communities and spend tons of time outside. My car is almost 5 years old and I just broke through 10,000 miles on it.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post an example of a bootie that will work with this style jeans, that does not have a lug sole. I am mid 50s and feel too old for those shoes - i want a “regular” sole/heel, but the shaft tall enough so that you don’t see my
ankles.

You’re not working with booties anymore. They’re done. Ankle boots with those fat little heels and almond toes are dated. Look for long slender mid shaft boots with structural heels and long toe boxes. The ankle is slender and comes up to your shin. Very simple to match with any pants; here’s an inexpensive example of what I’m talking about: https://www.asos.com/us/raid/raid-kennedi-mid-heel-chelsea-boots-in-black/prd/201329765?ctaref=we+recommend+grid_13&featureref1=we+recommend+pers

DP, but I don’t have chicken legs, so those don’t work for me. Oh well. Those are the kinds of boots that look dreadful on anyone who is not super thin and leggy.

Any kind of stretch boot should work great for women with thicker legs. They’re much more forgiving than the more traditional leather variety. I say this as a pear-shaped woman who frequently has trouble with boots being too tight in the calf. I probably wouldn’t wear these mid-height ones with skirts because they make my short legs look even shorter but with jeans they’re great.

Thanks, PP. Do you have links to what you’re describing? I actually wore stretch knee-high boots yesterday with a dress, so I love that look, but not sure how it would be with shorter boots. If I’m wearing jeans over the boots, I don’t see how what the shaft looks like matters. I don’t like the high ankle pants with mid-calf boots look - mostly because heels are uncomfortable, and I don’t want flats.

I have these and they fit really well. Super-comfortable and I don't normally like wearing heels. They look great with shorter pants if you decide to give that a try.

https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Souls-Kenneth-Cole-Plumberry/dp/B093P6NYQW?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Thanks, PP. I’m not sure they’d be stretchy enough to fit my lower legs, but they’re cute.

I actually think the pictures of this style (shorter pants, closer fitting mid-calf boots) looks great. Part of my hesitation in trying it is around shopping for still more stuff, which I don’t love doing. I know I could find a cheap pair of pants, but I’m tired of buying cheap clothing, and then I’d also need updated tops to wear them with. As another PP said, I don’t want to drop $$$ every season to be always on trend.

I hear you, PP. RE the boots linked above--I wasn't sure if they'd fit my thick ankles and heavier calves either but decided to give it a try. The very top was a little tight on me out of the box but after a bit of tugging and one day's wear they were perfect.

You’re my kind of boot-wearer! Thanks, PP.

I think this thread highlights the difference (for me) between trends, fashion, and style. I think having one’s own style is about finding what works for you and making it your own, regardless of specific trends. So, someone like that might not be fashionable in the sense of being current, but they have style. On the flip side, someone who jumps from trend to trend is fashionable but doesn’t have a strong sense of what works for them. Both can look great and are fine, of course, but I don’t equate being on trend with having style, as some seem to.

I don't think the people coming onto this thread holding their noses and going "PU!" are really showing themselves to "have style." Their sensibilities just haven't caught up with what happens to be fashionable at the moment and they are having an instinctive aversion to it. That's fine - they can wear whatever they want! - but they aren't, like, better dressed or better people for not seeing what looks nice in today's trends. Also these aren't exactly cray-zee trends - they're slightly looser, slightly shorter jeans, paired with a boot underneath.

Yes, wear what you like and wear what looks good on you. For sure. That doesn't mean that you have style and it doesn't mean that the people who like what's fashionable now are lemmings who are mindlessly following some fashion leader off a cliff

How would you know what anyone on this thread looks like IRL? You don’t. The bolded is so weirdly defensive I don’t even know where to begin. Better people? What?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone post an example of a bootie that will work with this style jeans, that does not have a lug sole. I am mid 50s and feel too old for those shoes - i want a “regular” sole/heel, but the shaft tall enough so that you don’t see my
ankles.

You’re not working with booties anymore. They’re done. Ankle boots with those fat little heels and almond toes are dated. Look for long slender mid shaft boots with structural heels and long toe boxes. The ankle is slender and comes up to your shin. Very simple to match with any pants; here’s an inexpensive example of what I’m talking about: https://www.asos.com/us/raid/raid-kennedi-mid-heel-chelsea-boots-in-black/prd/201329765?ctaref=we+recommend+grid_13&featureref1=we+recommend+pers

DP, but I don’t have chicken legs, so those don’t work for me. Oh well. Those are the kinds of boots that look dreadful on anyone who is not super thin and leggy.

Any kind of stretch boot should work great for women with thicker legs. They’re much more forgiving than the more traditional leather variety. I say this as a pear-shaped woman who frequently has trouble with boots being too tight in the calf. I probably wouldn’t wear these mid-height ones with skirts because they make my short legs look even shorter but with jeans they’re great.

Thanks, PP. Do you have links to what you’re describing? I actually wore stretch knee-high boots yesterday with a dress, so I love that look, but not sure how it would be with shorter boots. If I’m wearing jeans over the boots, I don’t see how what the shaft looks like matters. I don’t like the high ankle pants with mid-calf boots look - mostly because heels are uncomfortable, and I don’t want flats.

I have these and they fit really well. Super-comfortable and I don't normally like wearing heels. They look great with shorter pants if you decide to give that a try.

https://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Souls-Kenneth-Cole-Plumberry/dp/B093P6NYQW?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1

Thanks, PP. I’m not sure they’d be stretchy enough to fit my lower legs, but they’re cute.

I actually think the pictures of this style (shorter pants, closer fitting mid-calf boots) looks great. Part of my hesitation in trying it is around shopping for still more stuff, which I don’t love doing. I know I could find a cheap pair of pants, but I’m tired of buying cheap clothing, and then I’d also need updated tops to wear them with. As another PP said, I don’t want to drop $$$ every season to be always on trend.

I hear you, PP. RE the boots linked above--I wasn't sure if they'd fit my thick ankles and heavier calves either but decided to give it a try. The very top was a little tight on me out of the box but after a bit of tugging and one day's wear they were perfect.

You’re my kind of boot-wearer! Thanks, PP.

I think this thread highlights the difference (for me) between trends, fashion, and style. I think having one’s own style is about finding what works for you and making it your own, regardless of specific trends. So, someone like that might not be fashionable in the sense of being current, but they have style. On the flip side, someone who jumps from trend to trend is fashionable but doesn’t have a strong sense of what works for them. Both can look great and are fine, of course, but I don’t equate being on trend with having style, as some seem to.

Exactly.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:90% of people in this region aren’t spending more than a few seconds outside when it is cold. It’s funny how people bundle up in this area.

I've always thought this about CA, particularly women in LA who break out the winter gear when it's 60 degrees out. Ridiculous looking. At least here it's actually cold.