Glenn Youngkin's brand of politics over?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump trashes his name because it sounds somewhat Asian?

Hopefully that's a wake-up call to those who think the GOP cares about Asian Americans.

Oh, please. Trump is NOT the GOP. The vast majority of Republicans want him to go away. Time to move on.

And btw - how soon you forget the posts by liberals here mocking Hung Cap’s name. Maybe fix the problems in your own party before smugly casting stones.

No, I didn’t see some random anonymous poster do that.

I did see the de facto leader of the GOP, the presidential nominee for the last two elections, make racist comments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump trashes his name because it sounds somewhat Asian?

Hopefully that's a wake-up call to those who think the GOP cares about Asian Americans.

Oh, please. Trump is NOT the GOP. The vast majority of Republicans want him to go away. Time to move on.

And btw - how soon you forget the posts by liberals here mocking Hung Cap’s name. Maybe fix the problems in your own party before smugly casting stones.

Yes he is. The vast majority of GOPers support him and believe his election lies.

Trump is announcing his next presidential run next week and everyone will immediately fall behind him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not in Virginia and not familiar with Youngkin or the politics you're talking about but I am curious. Would you mind sharing a couple of details about it?

Is it just Trump politics?

It’s Christian Nationalism politics— the core and soul of current GOP.
Desire to go back/retain a state of things where conservative Christian culture is default and everyone else is, at best, a tolerated guest and, at worst, excluded from society.

This is just totally false. No evidence for your claims. Virginia is becoming more red. And no, Youngkin and Republicans are not against teaching about slavery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's going to run for President, so he's applying for the job he wants and quiet quitting the job he has. He is not focused whatsoever on Virginia state agendas unless they also are national spotlight agendas.

He did run a spectacular gubernatorial campaign compared to McAullife. But once he won that race, his eyes got wider and he is now laser focused on becoming the Republican nominee in 2024. So now he will bend and pivot to whatever will get him that nom. Virginia got screwed by both sides: 1) by the left for shoving down our throat's Terry McAullife as the savior for the democratic nominee when there were other well qualified candidates, and 2) by the moderates who claimed Youngkin was his own brand, was a moderate and would focus on Virginia issues. McAullife handed Youngkin the election in the debate when he said that parents should not be involved in their children's public school education. Politico did a 15 min podcast re this campaign, that moment and how Youngkin won. It's worth listening to because I am sure he's got the same people working on this next campaign.

The sad thing is McAuliffe was 100% correct about parents’ role in public education. There already exist myriad ways to have input — but they absolutely do not get to dictate what happens in the actual classroom or schools.

Why can't parents have a larger role in what happens in public school classrooms? Who gets to decide?

How is it fair that the rich can spend tens of thousands of dollars per year on private school tuition and be treated as a partner with the school on their child's education, but parents who can't afford to be treated like high end consumers are denied substantive input into their child's education?

Parents have many avenues for influencing classroom curriculum: Electing school boards and state governments who appoint state boards. There are usually comment periods before big changes. This is how representative democracy works. There are also PTAs. And they certainly can advocate for their own child‘s individual needs one-on-one with a teacher.

What they *don’t* get to do is argue with the collective decisions of those policy bodies, especially using straw man arguments (for example, railing against the phantom menace of CRT) and grandstand and use physical intimidation to try to force radical visions of what should or should not be taught (see the disgusting displays at school board meetings the summer before last, many of which were attended by adults without children in our schools, including some some adults from other states entirely). They don’t get to do things like say they don’t like masks being worn during a deadly pandemic no one initially understood and so they will pitch a screaming fit to demand no child wear a mask. They don’t get to denigrate educators who are doing their best. They certainly don’t get to demand school underfunding and then complain about outcomes.

This mentality that they should have all this say is entitlement. Public schools don’t exist to teach your child what you want them to know, they exist to teach your child what society needs for them to know.

And I think you have a weird idea of how private schools work. Paying tuition doesn’t bestow dictatorial powers on parents there.

Bottom line: Parents have a role in education. They are one of many stakeholders, but they are hardly the most important one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not in Virginia and not familiar with Youngkin or the politics you're talking about but I am curious. Would you mind sharing a couple of details about it?

Is it just Trump politics?

It’s Christian Nationalism politics— the core and soul of current GOP.
Desire to go back/retain a state of things where conservative Christian culture is default and everyone else is, at best, a tolerated guest and, at worst, excluded from society.

This is just totally false. No evidence for your claims. Virginia is becoming more red. And no, Youngkin and Republicans are not against teaching about slavery.

It’s not totally false at all.

Youngkin and his pathetic ilk don’t want anything taught in school that makes white children uncomfortable. But guess what? Cognitive dissonance is hard! But it’s also how you learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump trashes his name because it sounds somewhat Asian?

Hopefully that's a wake-up call to those who think the GOP cares about Asian Americans.

Oh, please. Trump is NOT the GOP. The vast majority of Republicans want him to go away. Time to move on.

And btw - how soon you forget the posts by liberals here mocking Hung Cap’s name. Maybe fix the problems in your own party before smugly casting stones.

Yes he is. The vast majority of GOPers support him and believe his election lies.

Trump is announcing his next presidential run next week and everyone will immediately fall behind him.

because of the Georgia Senate election runoff I believe there is more pressure for Trump to stand down and not make any big announcements or get involved (like he was planning). This is because so many of the Trump endorsed candidates lost in the midterms and there is fear that the more Trump gets behind Walker the more people will vote Democratic in the run off.

I don’t think he’s announcing any time soon. He may originally have planned to but now the pressure is on for him to stand down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's going to run for President, so he's applying for the job he wants and quiet quitting the job he has. He is not focused whatsoever on Virginia state agendas unless they also are national spotlight agendas.

He did run a spectacular gubernatorial campaign compared to McAullife. But once he won that race, his eyes got wider and he is now laser focused on becoming the Republican nominee in 2024. So now he will bend and pivot to whatever will get him that nom. Virginia got screwed by both sides: 1) by the left for shoving down our throat's Terry McAullife as the savior for the democratic nominee when there were other well qualified candidates, and 2) by the moderates who claimed Youngkin was his own brand, was a moderate and would focus on Virginia issues. McAullife handed Youngkin the election in the debate when he said that parents should not be involved in their children's public school education. Politico did a 15 min podcast re this campaign, that moment and how Youngkin won. It's worth listening to because I am sure he's got the same people working on this next campaign.

The sad thing is McAuliffe was 100% correct about parents’ role in public education. There already exist myriad ways to have input — but they absolutely do not get to dictate what happens in the actual classroom or schools.

Why can't parents have a larger role in what happens in public school classrooms? Who gets to decide?

How is it fair that the rich can spend tens of thousands of dollars per year on private school tuition and be treated as a partner with the school on their child's education, but parents who can't afford to be treated like high end consumers are denied substantive input into their child's education?

Parents have many avenues for influencing classroom curriculum: Electing school boards and state governments who appoint state boards. There are usually comment periods before big changes. This is how representative democracy works. There are also PTAs. And they certainly can advocate for their own child‘s individual needs one-on-one with a teacher.

What they *don’t* get to do is argue with the collective decisions of those policy bodies, especially using straw man arguments (for example, railing against the phantom menace of CRT) and grandstand and use physical intimidation to try to force radical visions of what should or should not be taught (see the disgusting displays at school board meetings the summer before last, many of which were attended by adults without children in our schools, including some some adults from other states entirely). They don’t get to do things like say they don’t like masks being worn during a deadly pandemic no one initially understood and so they will pitch a screaming fit to demand no child wear a mask. They don’t get to denigrate educators who are doing their best. They certainly don’t get to demand school underfunding and then complain about outcomes.

This mentality that they should have all this say is entitlement. Public schools don’t exist to teach your child what you want them to know, they exist to teach your child what society needs for them to know.

And I think you have a weird idea of how private schools work. Paying tuition doesn’t bestow dictatorial powers on parents there.

Bottom line: Parents have a role in education. They are one of many stakeholders, but they are hardly the most important one.

NP: Just to add: Parents can volunteer. They can help chaperone school trips, provide assistance in classrooms, attend assemblies, and offer expertise in many areas with even more direct involvement than many PTA /PTO organizations often have. If the parents screaming about “CRT” had actually spent time in their children’s schools they would have known that what they were claiming to be protesting didn’t actually exist.
Yet another suggestion that what they’re really screaming about is their own brands of MAGA entitlement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many of us have been cautioned for weeks by Republicans that Dems were going to be blown out all over the DMV because of pressing issues like "covid resentment", "gender identity", and teaching about slavery in schools,.

As it turns out, Glenn's brand of "inventing problems that don't actually exist" that carried him into the governor's mansion failed to interest voters and deliver the Dem Drubbing we were all warned about.

Do you think that local Republicans will learn anything by this failed experiment or will they continue making stuff up? I hear that kitty litter is their latest fixation.

You are pretty far off the mark.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump trashes his name because it sounds somewhat Asian?

Hopefully that's a wake-up call to those who think the GOP cares about Asian Americans.

Oh, please. Trump is NOT the GOP. The vast majority of Republicans want him to go away. Time to move on.

And btw - how soon you forget the posts by liberals here mocking Hung Cap’s name. Maybe fix the problems in your own party before smugly casting stones.

Yes he is. The vast majority of GOPers support him and believe his election lies.

Trump is announcing his next presidential run next week and everyone will immediately fall behind him.

You really have been hiding under a rock for the past weeks, haven't you? Wake up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin's influence and $$$ didn't win his buddy Sang Yi the Fairfax City mayor seat...the glow is certainly off him in Northern VA, but I can't speak to the rest of the state.

Because the Fairfax City mayor is such a powerhouse!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's going to run for President, so he's applying for the job he wants and quiet quitting the job he has. He is not focused whatsoever on Virginia state agendas unless they also are national spotlight agendas.

He did run a spectacular gubernatorial campaign compared to McAullife. But once he won that race, his eyes got wider and he is now laser focused on becoming the Republican nominee in 2024. So now he will bend and pivot to whatever will get him that nom. Virginia got screwed by both sides: 1) by the left for shoving down our throat's Terry McAullife as the savior for the democratic nominee when there were other well qualified candidates, and 2) by the moderates who claimed Youngkin was his own brand, was a moderate and would focus on Virginia issues. McAullife handed Youngkin the election in the debate when he said that parents should not be involved in their children's public school education. Politico did a 15 min podcast re this campaign, that moment and how Youngkin won. It's worth listening to because I am sure he's got the same people working on this next campaign.

The sad thing is McAuliffe was 100% correct about parents’ role in public education. There already exist myriad ways to have input — but they absolutely do not get to dictate what happens in the actual classroom or schools.

Why can't parents have a larger role in what happens in public school classrooms? Who gets to decide?

How is it fair that the rich can spend tens of thousands of dollars per year on private school tuition and be treated as a partner with the school on their child's education, but parents who can't afford to be treated like high end consumers are denied substantive input into their child's education?

Parents have many avenues for influencing classroom curriculum: Electing school boards and state governments who appoint state boards. There are usually comment periods before big changes. This is how representative democracy works. There are also PTAs. And they certainly can advocate for their own child‘s individual needs one-on-one with a teacher.

What they *don’t* get to do is argue with the collective decisions of those policy bodies, especially using straw man arguments (for example, railing against the phantom menace of CRT) and grandstand and use physical intimidation to try to force radical visions of what should or should not be taught (see the disgusting displays at school board meetings the summer before last, many of which were attended by adults without children in our schools, including some some adults from other states entirely). They don’t get to do things like say they don’t like masks being worn during a deadly pandemic no one initially understood and so they will pitch a screaming fit to demand no child wear a mask. They don’t get to denigrate educators who are doing their best. They certainly don’t get to demand school underfunding and then complain about outcomes.

This mentality that they should have all this say is entitlement. Public schools don’t exist to teach your child what you want them to know, they exist to teach your child what society needs for them to know.

And I think you have a weird idea of how private schools work. Paying tuition doesn’t bestow dictatorial powers on parents there.

Bottom line: Parents have a role in education. They are one of many stakeholders, but they are hardly the most important one.

Who is the most important stakeholder in education?

It certainly is not the teachers, the community, or the school board. Who then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of us have been cautioned for weeks by Republicans that Dems were going to be blown out all over the DMV because of pressing issues like "covid resentment", "gender identity", and teaching about slavery in schools,.

As it turns out, Glenn's brand of "inventing problems that don't actually exist" that carried him into the governor's mansion failed to interest voters and deliver the Dem Drubbing we were all warned about.

Do you think that local Republicans will learn anything by this failed experiment or will they continue making stuff up? I hear that kitty litter is their latest fixation.

You are pretty far off the mark.

DP, but how so. PP seems pretty spot on to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's going to run for President, so he's applying for the job he wants and quiet quitting the job he has. He is not focused whatsoever on Virginia state agendas unless they also are national spotlight agendas.

He did run a spectacular gubernatorial campaign compared to McAullife. But once he won that race, his eyes got wider and he is now laser focused on becoming the Republican nominee in 2024. So now he will bend and pivot to whatever will get him that nom. Virginia got screwed by both sides: 1) by the left for shoving down our throat's Terry McAullife as the savior for the democratic nominee when there were other well qualified candidates, and 2) by the moderates who claimed Youngkin was his own brand, was a moderate and would focus on Virginia issues. McAullife handed Youngkin the election in the debate when he said that parents should not be involved in their children's public school education. Politico did a 15 min podcast re this campaign, that moment and how Youngkin won. It's worth listening to because I am sure he's got the same people working on this next campaign.

The sad thing is McAuliffe was 100% correct about parents’ role in public education. There already exist myriad ways to have input — but they absolutely do not get to dictate what happens in the actual classroom or schools.

Why can't parents have a larger role in what happens in public school classrooms? Who gets to decide?

How is it fair that the rich can spend tens of thousands of dollars per year on private school tuition and be treated as a partner with the school on their child's education, but parents who can't afford to be treated like high end consumers are denied substantive input into their child's education?

Parents have many avenues for influencing classroom curriculum: Electing school boards and state governments who appoint state boards. There are usually comment periods before big changes. This is how representative democracy works. There are also PTAs. And they certainly can advocate for their own child‘s individual needs one-on-one with a teacher.

What they *don’t* get to do is argue with the collective decisions of those policy bodies, especially using straw man arguments (for example, railing against the phantom menace of CRT) and grandstand and use physical intimidation to try to force radical visions of what should or should not be taught (see the disgusting displays at school board meetings the summer before last, many of which were attended by adults without children in our schools, including some some adults from other states entirely). They don’t get to do things like say they don’t like masks being worn during a deadly pandemic no one initially understood and so they will pitch a screaming fit to demand no child wear a mask. They don’t get to denigrate educators who are doing their best. They certainly don’t get to demand school underfunding and then complain about outcomes.

This mentality that they should have all this say is entitlement. Public schools don’t exist to teach your child what you want them to know, they exist to teach your child what society needs for them to know.

And I think you have a weird idea of how private schools work. Paying tuition doesn’t bestow dictatorial powers on parents there.

Bottom line: Parents have a role in education. They are one of many stakeholders, but they are hardly the most important one.

NP: Just to add: Parents can volunteer. They can help chaperone school trips, provide assistance in classrooms, attend assemblies, and offer expertise in many areas with even more direct involvement than many PTA /PTO organizations often have. If the parents screaming about “CRT” had actually spent time in their children’s schools they would have known that what they were claiming to be protesting didn’t actually exist.
Yet another suggestion that what they’re really screaming about is their own brands of MAGA entitlement.

The thing is that parents actually spent time in their children’s s hooks during virtual learning in which teaching was done by parents. This is when parents actually heard what teachers were jabbering about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean, Youngkin actually got elected, so I think the story here is different from what you're trying to do.

He wouldn’t have won if McAuliffe wasn’t such a dead end candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's going to run for President, so he's applying for the job he wants and quiet quitting the job he has. He is not focused whatsoever on Virginia state agendas unless they also are national spotlight agendas.

He did run a spectacular gubernatorial campaign compared to McAullife. But once he won that race, his eyes got wider and he is now laser focused on becoming the Republican nominee in 2024. So now he will bend and pivot to whatever will get him that nom. Virginia got screwed by both sides: 1) by the left for shoving down our throat's Terry McAullife as the savior for the democratic nominee when there were other well qualified candidates, and 2) by the moderates who claimed Youngkin was his own brand, was a moderate and would focus on Virginia issues. McAullife handed Youngkin the election in the debate when he said that parents should not be involved in their children's public school education. Politico did a 15 min podcast re this campaign, that moment and how Youngkin won. It's worth listening to because I am sure he's got the same people working on this next campaign.

The sad thing is McAuliffe was 100% correct about parents’ role in public education. There already exist myriad ways to have input — but they absolutely do not get to dictate what happens in the actual classroom or schools.

Why can't parents have a larger role in what happens in public school classrooms? Who gets to decide?

How is it fair that the rich can spend tens of thousands of dollars per year on private school tuition and be treated as a partner with the school on their child's education, but parents who can't afford to be treated like high end consumers are denied substantive input into their child's education?

Parents have many avenues for influencing classroom curriculum: Electing school boards and state governments who appoint state boards. There are usually comment periods before big changes. This is how representative democracy works. There are also PTAs. And they certainly can advocate for their own child‘s individual needs one-on-one with a teacher.

What they *don’t* get to do is argue with the collective decisions of those policy bodies, especially using straw man arguments (for example, railing against the phantom menace of CRT) and grandstand and use physical intimidation to try to force radical visions of what should or should not be taught (see the disgusting displays at school board meetings the summer before last, many of which were attended by adults without children in our schools, including some some adults from other states entirely). They don’t get to do things like say they don’t like masks being worn during a deadly pandemic no one initially understood and so they will pitch a screaming fit to demand no child wear a mask. They don’t get to denigrate educators who are doing their best. They certainly don’t get to demand school underfunding and then complain about outcomes.

This mentality that they should have all this say is entitlement. Public schools don’t exist to teach your child what you want them to know, they exist to teach your child what society needs for them to know.

And I think you have a weird idea of how private schools work. Paying tuition doesn’t bestow dictatorial powers on parents there.

Bottom line: Parents have a role in education. They are one of many stakeholders, but they are hardly the most important one.

Who is the most important stakeholder in education?

It certainly is not the teachers, the community, or the school board. Who then?

DP. Students, who are independent people and not just extensions of their parents. Beyond that, society and its need for a reasonably educated population.