COVID infection is brutal

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Anonymous wrote:Vaccines work. A vaccine only strategy was NEVER going to work, as the virus mutates and we are providing it with a huge reserve of hosts by allowing it to spread unchecked. At this rate, we will never be done with COVID. This is the fault of everyone who wouldn’t tolerate social distancing, masking, and avoiding crowded indoor spaces. The waves are getting closer and closer together. Remember last summer, before delta, when cases were so low? It hasn’t been like that since. People are too selfish to care and as a result, they are shooting themselves in the foot. I hate this new half life we all live and I am so resentful.

Waves aren’t getting closer together and no country has managed to keep covid from circulating, masks or no masks. You are choosing to live a “half life” if that’s what you are doing at this point in the pandemic.

Sure, the people with multiple reinfections, long COVID, cancelled vacations, and chronic fatigue are living such full lives. I should really join them, all for the privilege of sitting in an Applebees. The waves absolutely are getting closer together and our COVID response is among the worst in the world. Our per capita death rate reflects this.

Here we go with the long covid stuff again. Look, if you want to stay inside for the rest of your life so you don't lose your smell or feel tired for a month or two, that's your choice. But most people have decided that the small risk of some lingering viral symptoms (and infinitesimally small risk of anything "disabling") is not worth the vast reduction in quality of life necessary to completely avoid covid.

DP here-you are ridiculous. You can still fully live your life and yet also take precautions.

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Anonymous wrote:Vaccines work. A vaccine only strategy was NEVER going to work, as the virus mutates and we are providing it with a huge reserve of hosts by allowing it to spread unchecked. At this rate, we will never be done with COVID. This is the fault of everyone who wouldn’t tolerate social distancing, masking, and avoiding crowded indoor spaces. The waves are getting closer and closer together. Remember last summer, before delta, when cases were so low? It hasn’t been like that since. People are too selfish to care and as a result, they are shooting themselves in the foot. I hate this new half life we all live and I am so resentful.

Waves aren’t getting closer together and no country has managed to keep covid from circulating, masks or no masks. You are choosing to live a “half life” if that’s what you are doing at this point in the pandemic.

Sure, the people with multiple reinfections, long COVID, cancelled vacations, and chronic fatigue are living such full lives. I should really join them, all for the privilege of sitting in an Applebees. The waves absolutely are getting closer together and our COVID response is among the worst in the world. Our per capita death rate reflects this.

Here we go with the long covid stuff again. Look, if you want to stay inside for the rest of your life so you don't lose your smell or feel tired for a month or two, that's your choice. But most people have decided that the small risk of some lingering viral symptoms (and infinitesimally small risk of anything "disabling") is not worth the vast reduction in quality of life necessary to completely avoid covid.

Do you even read or think about what you post?

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Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer

I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.

The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.

And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it

People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.

Precisely! Keep going, you are almost there! So therefore, there are people who are fundamentally at-risk and those not at-risk for higher Covid severity and yet this basic fact was downplayed and often completely ignored. The masks, lockdowns, school closures, vax pass, mandates, etc. were sold as a Covid panacea for all as if everyone has the same risk level for a severe outcome and needed to endure these draconian experimental polices. This is malfeasance.

The state of education in this country is alarmingly dismal. No. It was not “sold as a panacea for all.” You didn’t understand the purpose of the policy, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t have one.

The reason we had to slow the spread is because if everyone got infected at once, as can happen with a new virus, it would have completely overrun our health care system and our economy. We wanted to keep hospitals open for the myriad other reasons you need hospitals. So all those measures during the first year pre-vaccine and subsequent surges were absolutely necessary. A small percent of a large number is still a large number. It doesn’t matter if you personally wouldn’t have been deathly ill, the fact that many others would be is significant for institutional reasons.

People we are two years into this thing, why are we still explaining this??? Is everyone so Me First that they simply can’t compute population level policies?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer

I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.

The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.

And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it

People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.

Precisely! Keep going, you are almost there! So therefore, there are people who are fundamentally at-risk and those not at-risk for higher Covid severity and yet this basic fact was downplayed and often completely ignored. The masks, lockdowns, school closures, vax pass, mandates, etc. were sold as a Covid panacea for all as if everyone has the same risk level for a severe outcome and needed to endure these draconian experimental polices. This is malfeasance.

The state of education in this country is alarmingly dismal. No. It was not “sold as a panacea for all.” You didn’t understand the purpose of the policy, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t have one.

The reason we had to slow the spread is because if everyone got infected at once, as can happen with a new virus, it would have completely overrun our health care system and our economy. We wanted to keep hospitals open for the myriad other reasons you need hospitals. So all those measures during the first year pre-vaccine and subsequent surges were absolutely necessary. A small percent of a large number is still a large number. It doesn’t matter if you personally wouldn’t have been deathly ill, the fact that many others would be is significant for institutional reasons.

People we are two years into this thing, why are we still explaining this??? Is everyone so Me First that they simply can’t compute population level policies?

^^or, for that matter, logarithmic curves. The fact that infection and excess mortality would have been exponentially higher if not curved is frankly lost on many.

MATH. It matters.

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Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer

I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.

The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.

And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it

People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.

Precisely! Keep going, you are almost there! So therefore, there are people who are fundamentally at-risk and those not at-risk for higher Covid severity and yet this basic fact was downplayed and often completely ignored. The masks, lockdowns, school closures, vax pass, mandates, etc. were sold as a Covid panacea for all as if everyone has the same risk level for a severe outcome and needed to endure these draconian experimental polices. This is malfeasance.

The state of education in this country is alarmingly dismal. No. It was not “sold as a panacea for all.” You didn’t understand the purpose of the policy, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t have one.

The reason we had to slow the spread is because if everyone got infected at once, as can happen with a new virus, it would have completely overrun our health care system and our economy. We wanted to keep hospitals open for the myriad other reasons you need hospitals. So all those measures during the first year pre-vaccine and subsequent surges were absolutely necessary. A small percent of a large number is still a large number. It doesn’t matter if you personally wouldn’t have been deathly ill, the fact that many others would be is significant for institutional reasons.

People we are two years into this thing, why are we still explaining this??? Is everyone so Me First that they simply can’t compute population level policies?

You can understand all this and still take issue with how the measures were implemented.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as they protect against hospitalization and death, that’s good enough for me.


You do you— I’ll be getting the recommended vaccines.

Yep, we will too. I have kids and other families who need me—not ready to roll the dice.

There is no difference, we need a new vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer

I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.

The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.

And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it

People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.

Precisely! Keep going, you are almost there! So therefore, there are people who are fundamentally at-risk and those not at-risk for higher Covid severity and yet this basic fact was downplayed and often completely ignored. The masks, lockdowns, school closures, vax pass, mandates, etc. were sold as a Covid panacea for all as if everyone has the same risk level for a severe outcome and needed to endure these draconian experimental polices. This is malfeasance.

The state of education in this country is alarmingly dismal. No. It was not “sold as a panacea for all.” You didn’t understand the purpose of the policy, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t have one.

The reason we had to slow the spread is because if everyone got infected at once, as can happen with a new virus, it would have completely overrun our health care system and our economy. We wanted to keep hospitals open for the myriad other reasons you need hospitals. So all those measures during the first year pre-vaccine and subsequent surges were absolutely necessary. A small percent of a large number is still a large number. It doesn’t matter if you personally wouldn’t have been deathly ill, the fact that many others would be is significant for institutional reasons.

People we are two years into this thing, why are we still explaining this??? Is everyone so Me First that they simply can’t compute population level policies?

Things changed, the vaccine doesn't help anymore

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Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer

I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.

The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.

And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it

People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.

Precisely! Keep going, you are almost there! So therefore, there are people who are fundamentally at-risk and those not at-risk for higher Covid severity and yet this basic fact was downplayed and often completely ignored. The masks, lockdowns, school closures, vax pass, mandates, etc. were sold as a Covid panacea for all as if everyone has the same risk level for a severe outcome and needed to endure these draconian experimental polices. This is malfeasance.

The state of education in this country is alarmingly dismal. No. It was not “sold as a panacea for all.” You didn’t understand the purpose of the policy, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t have one.

The reason we had to slow the spread is because if everyone got infected at once, as can happen with a new virus, it would have completely overrun our health care system and our economy. We wanted to keep hospitals open for the myriad other reasons you need hospitals. So all those measures during the first year pre-vaccine and subsequent surges were absolutely necessary. A small percent of a large number is still a large number. It doesn’t matter if you personally wouldn’t have been deathly ill, the fact that many others would be is significant for institutional reasons.

People we are two years into this thing, why are we still explaining this??? Is everyone so Me First that they simply can’t compute population level policies?

Things changed, the vaccine doesn't help anymore

Covid changed in that it's not as deadly so there is a different strategy needed, I mean infections are skyrocketing but hospitalizations and deaths are going way down and it's not the vaccine because it's not effective.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:answering your question:

try arnica, baptisia tinctoria, arsenic, hep sulph and nat sulph in 30 2/3 times a day for a week. Also Diphtheria, bacilinum, influenzium also x30 in a mix once a day. I got most of these from Whole Foods and amazon had the rest. Hope you feel better!

OMFG.

IKR? My arsenic levels are dangerously low.

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Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer

I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.

The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.

And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it

People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.

Precisely! Keep going, you are almost there! So therefore, there are people who are fundamentally at-risk and those not at-risk for higher Covid severity and yet this basic fact was downplayed and often completely ignored. The masks, lockdowns, school closures, vax pass, mandates, etc. were sold as a Covid panacea for all as if everyone has the same risk level for a severe outcome and needed to endure these draconian experimental polices. This is malfeasance.

The state of education in this country is alarmingly dismal. No. It was not “sold as a panacea for all.” You didn’t understand the purpose of the policy, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t have one.

The reason we had to slow the spread is because if everyone got infected at once, as can happen with a new virus, it would have completely overrun our health care system and our economy. We wanted to keep hospitals open for the myriad other reasons you need hospitals. So all those measures during the first year pre-vaccine and subsequent surges were absolutely necessary. A small percent of a large number is still a large number. It doesn’t matter if you personally wouldn’t have been deathly ill, the fact that many others would be is significant for institutional reasons.

People we are two years into this thing, why are we still explaining this??? Is everyone so Me First that they simply can’t compute population level policies?

You can understand all this and still take issue with how the measures were implemented.

The arrogance is astounding. It’s like you would go to your surgeon and suggest a different method of operating around your tumor, based on what you feel.

There’s a reason people get PhDs in public health. There are many interconnected parts of the system you don’t see from the perspective of your individual life or social circle. There’s a reason we vote, to get competent governments in place so they can do their jobs and we can do ours. Do you go back to the kitchen in a restaurant and tell them you have a better recipe too? Good lord.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer

I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.

The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.

And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it

People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.

Precisely! Keep going, you are almost there! So therefore, there are people who are fundamentally at-risk and those not at-risk for higher Covid severity and yet this basic fact was downplayed and often completely ignored. The masks, lockdowns, school closures, vax pass, mandates, etc. were sold as a Covid panacea for all as if everyone has the same risk level for a severe outcome and needed to endure these draconian experimental polices. This is malfeasance.

The state of education in this country is alarmingly dismal. No. It was not “sold as a panacea for all.” You didn’t understand the purpose of the policy, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t have one.

The reason we had to slow the spread is because if everyone got infected at once, as can happen with a new virus, it would have completely overrun our health care system and our economy. We wanted to keep hospitals open for the myriad other reasons you need hospitals. So all those measures during the first year pre-vaccine and subsequent surges were absolutely necessary. A small percent of a large number is still a large number. It doesn’t matter if you personally wouldn’t have been deathly ill, the fact that many others would be is significant for institutional reasons.

People we are two years into this thing, why are we still explaining this??? Is everyone so Me First that they simply can’t compute population level policies?

You can understand all this and still take issue with how the measures were implemented.

The arrogance is astounding. It’s like you would go to your surgeon and suggest a different method of operating around your tumor, based on what you feel.

There’s a reason people get PhDs in public health. There are many interconnected parts of the system you don’t see from the perspective of your individual life or social circle. There’s a reason we vote, to get competent governments in place so they can do their jobs and we can do ours. Do you go back to the kitchen in a restaurant and tell them you have a better recipe too? Good lord.

Since kids had to sacrifice a year of their childhood along with compromised educational outcomes via virtual hell for over a year, it was important that adults had to sacrifice by navigating one-way grocery aisles. I could ride your wake in the bread aisle...just as long as we didn't cross paths.

[Anonymous]

I don't get how people are saying the vaccines don't work. To prevent infection, yes, but they were intended to stop severe disease and death, and for that they have:

Scroll down to the orange, blue, green bar graph and your mind will be blown. Vaccines work folks:

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/covid-state-of-affairs-july-25

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get how people are saying the vaccines don't work. To prevent infection, yes, but they were intended to stop severe disease and death, and for that they have:

Scroll down to the orange, blue, green bar graph and your mind will be blown. Vaccines work folks:

https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/covid-state-of-affairs-july-25

I’m vaccinated and boosted and will happily take every additional booster. Bit takes zero time to find clips of Fauci, Biden, etc saying “if you get the vaccine you won’t get sick and you won’t spread covid.” By that over-promise, they don’t work.

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Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer

I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.

The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.

And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it

People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.

Precisely! Keep going, you are almost there! So therefore, there are people who are fundamentally at-risk and those not at-risk for higher Covid severity and yet this basic fact was downplayed and often completely ignored. The masks, lockdowns, school closures, vax pass, mandates, etc. were sold as a Covid panacea for all as if everyone has the same risk level for a severe outcome and needed to endure these draconian experimental polices. This is malfeasance.

The state of education in this country is alarmingly dismal. No. It was not “sold as a panacea for all.” You didn’t understand the purpose of the policy, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t have one.

The reason we had to slow the spread is because if everyone got infected at once, as can happen with a new virus, it would have completely overrun our health care system and our economy. We wanted to keep hospitals open for the myriad other reasons you need hospitals. So all those measures during the first year pre-vaccine and subsequent surges were absolutely necessary. A small percent of a large number is still a large number. It doesn’t matter if you personally wouldn’t have been deathly ill, the fact that many others would be is significant for institutional reasons.

People we are two years into this thing, why are we still explaining this??? Is everyone so Me First that they simply can’t compute population level policies?

You can understand all this and still take issue with how the measures were implemented.

The arrogance is astounding. It’s like you would go to your surgeon and suggest a different method of operating around your tumor, based on what you feel.

There’s a reason people get PhDs in public health. There are many interconnected parts of the system you don’t see from the perspective of your individual life or social circle. There’s a reason we vote, to get competent governments in place so they can do their jobs and we can do ours. Do you go back to the kitchen in a restaurant and tell them you have a better recipe too? Good lord.

Since kids had to sacrifice a year of their childhood along with compromised educational outcomes via virtual hell for over a year, it was important that adults had to sacrifice by navigating one-way grocery aisles. I could ride your wake in the bread aisle...just as long as we didn't cross paths.

I am sure you would have made better if not perfect decisions on how Covid should have been dealt with through out the pandemic. What dp you think we would we see if we could peek into a world where nothing closed and no one wore a mask and no vaccine was developed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So it's safe to say the vaccines and boosters are worthless, our family got COVID, there was no correlation between sickness and vaccine and booster. The unvaxed memeber was the least sick. Weve been lied to. Class action against phizer

I mean the vaccine worked for the first couple variants. Which actually killed people, omicron isn’t a killer.

The issue is that they no longer work but our govt is so bought out by pharma, they are still being pushed. It’s ridiculous. I can’t believe we are giving these shots to babies, or pushing 4th shots on young healthy adults, requiring boosters for teenagers.

And here are these 4 shot people super miserable, everyone I know who had a recent booster was sicker than me. It makes you think doesn’t it

People who have had 4 shots tend to be older and have more health problems than people who choose to forgo the second booster.

Precisely! Keep going, you are almost there! So therefore, there are people who are fundamentally at-risk and those not at-risk for higher Covid severity and yet this basic fact was downplayed and often completely ignored. The masks, lockdowns, school closures, vax pass, mandates, etc. were sold as a Covid panacea for all as if everyone has the same risk level for a severe outcome and needed to endure these draconian experimental polices. This is malfeasance.

The state of education in this country is alarmingly dismal. No. It was not “sold as a panacea for all.” You didn’t understand the purpose of the policy, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t have one.

The reason we had to slow the spread is because if everyone got infected at once, as can happen with a new virus, it would have completely overrun our health care system and our economy. We wanted to keep hospitals open for the myriad other reasons you need hospitals. So all those measures during the first year pre-vaccine and subsequent surges were absolutely necessary. A small percent of a large number is still a large number. It doesn’t matter if you personally wouldn’t have been deathly ill, the fact that many others would be is significant for institutional reasons.

People we are two years into this thing, why are we still explaining this??? Is everyone so Me First that they simply can’t compute population level policies?

You can understand all this and still take issue with how the measures were implemented.

The arrogance is astounding. It’s like you would go to your surgeon and suggest a different method of operating around your tumor, based on what you feel.

There’s a reason people get PhDs in public health. There are many interconnected parts of the system you don’t see from the perspective of your individual life or social circle. There’s a reason we vote, to get competent governments in place so they can do their jobs and we can do ours. Do you go back to the kitchen in a restaurant and tell them you have a better recipe too? Good lord.

Since kids had to sacrifice a year of their childhood along with compromised educational outcomes via virtual hell for over a year, it was important that adults had to sacrifice by navigating one-way grocery aisles. I could ride your wake in the bread aisle...just as long as we didn't cross paths.

I am sure you would have made better if not perfect decisions on how Covid should have been dealt with through out the pandemic. What dp you think we would we see if we could peek into a world where nothing closed and no one wore a mask and no vaccine was developed?

Who knows. What I do know is that while it was important that some (but not all) kids stayed home for a year, it was equally important that adults had to wear masks on the way to their restaurant table before unmasking the remainder of their visit.