Widening 355 in MoCo

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Anonymous wrote:As long as we get interchanges on 355 from the exit at the Beltway up through Urbana.

Again, what will happen to the thousands of businesses and residences that currently line this roadway?

I don't care. I just want a limited access highway from the Beltway up to Urbana.

Trolls going to troll, I guess.

270 and 355 are critically important pieces of road infrastructure for the county. At minimum it should not be controversial to widen 270 and also maintain the current number of 355 travel lanes. If you actually cared about the residents and businesses, that is.

It is controversial because widening the road is a waste of money and doesn't address the problem.

What do you think the problem is?

Too many people dependent on single occupancy vehicles. Maryland needs to invest in serious mass transit to connect Frederick to DC; Columbia to DC and the intermediate areas like Silver Spring, Bethesda, Rockville etc. Building more roads leads to having more cars sitting in the traffic they create. If the goal is to move people, then build infrastructure that does that.

Most people, such as yourself, who say ‘build more public transportation’ are the ones who would stay in their cars and never use it. They just want to get the poors off the road so they can have it to themselves.

Nope, I live in DC and seldom use 270 for anything. But induced demand is a thing, and 270 is a textbook case. Try something else, because adding more lanes simply doesn't solve the problem.

Thanks for the clarification which explains why you don’t know what you’re talking about. You can now mind your own business. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:As long as we get interchanges on 355 from the exit at the Beltway up through Urbana.

Again, what will happen to the thousands of businesses and residences that currently line this roadway?

I don't care. I just want a limited access highway from the Beltway up to Urbana.

Trolls going to troll, I guess.

270 and 355 are critically important pieces of road infrastructure for the county. At minimum it should not be controversial to widen 270 and also maintain the current number of 355 travel lanes. If you actually cared about the residents and businesses, that is.

It is controversial because widening the road is a waste of money and doesn't address the problem.

What do you think the problem is?

Too many people dependent on single occupancy vehicles. Maryland needs to invest in serious mass transit to connect Frederick to DC; Columbia to DC and the intermediate areas like Silver Spring, Bethesda, Rockville etc. Building more roads leads to having more cars sitting in the traffic they create. If the goal is to move people, then build infrastructure that does that.

Most people, such as yourself, who say ‘build more public transportation’ are the ones who would stay in their cars and never use it. They just want to get the poors off the road so they can have it to themselves.

Nope, I live in DC and seldom use 270 for anything. But induced demand is a thing, and 270 is a textbook case. Try something else, because adding more lanes simply doesn't solve the problem.

Quick question smart guy. What was the AADT before and after adding lanes to 270?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah man. Just one more lane. That'll solve it for sure. Just one. Pleaaase? Just one more and we're done. I promise.

Yes. One more lane will allow thousands of more people to get where they are going.

Funny that you think “the problem” is cars not being able to drive fast enough.

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The above image is photoshopped, no highway has that many lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:The above image is photoshopped, no highway has that many lanes.

LOL, you are kidding, right?

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Anonymous wrote:The above image is photoshopped, no highway has that many lanes.

Go visit Texas, especially Houston where that picture likely was taken.

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Anonymous wrote:The above image is photoshopped, no highway has that many lanes.

Go visit Texas, especially Houston where that picture likely was taken.

That's exactly where it was taken. Why would peolple think it's photoshopped? It's Texas.

https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/katy/news/article/Bragging-rights-or-embarrassment-Katy-Freeway-at-6261429.php

[Anonymous]

The only part of 270 that needs an extra lane (primarily for slow-moving trucks) is the demolition derby stretch between Clarksburg and Urbana.

Further south I'd eliminate some the slip ramps between the local and thru lanes. This would go a long way towards reducing the constant and dangerous weaving.

I don't see a compelling reason to widen 355.

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So when are we extending 270s additional lane up to Urbana and two Frederick?

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Have you seen the townhouse construction in Urbana/Clarksburg/Old Baltimore Road? The people moving into those townhouses are not going to ride bicycles to work. Whose idea was it to allow that to happen?

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Anonymous wrote:Have you seen the townhouse construction in Urbana/Clarksburg/Old Baltimore Road? The people moving into those townhouses are not going to ride bicycles to work. Whose idea was it to allow that to happen?

It was Montgomery County’s idea. Because the county decided to ban “sprawl” it literally moved right across the border into Frederick making the problem worse. Talk about unintended consequences.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you seen the townhouse construction in Urbana/Clarksburg/Old Baltimore Road? The people moving into those townhouses are not going to ride bicycles to work. Whose idea was it to allow that to happen?

It was Montgomery County’s idea. Because the county decided to ban “sprawl” it literally moved right across the border into Frederick making the problem worse. Talk about unintended consequences.

Clarksburg, including West Old Baltimore Road, is in Montgomery County. Anybody who moved to Clarksburg expecting an easy solo driving commute on uncongested roads to the downcounty during peak driving times wasn't paying attention.

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Anonymous wrote:Have you seen the townhouse construction in Urbana/Clarksburg/Old Baltimore Road? The people moving into those townhouses are not going to ride bicycles to work. Whose idea was it to allow that to happen?

It was Montgomery County’s idea. Because the county decided to ban “sprawl” it literally moved right across the border into Frederick making the problem worse. Talk about unintended consequences.

Clarksburg, including West Old Baltimore Road, is in Montgomery County. Anybody who moved to Clarksburg expecting an easy solo driving commute on uncongested roads to the downcounty during peak driving times wasn't paying attention.

Is there a reason why you seem so disproportionately animated about people who live in Clarksburg? Why does it make you so angry?

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Anonymous wrote:As long as we get interchanges on 355 from the exit at the Beltway up through Urbana.

Again, what will happen to the thousands of businesses and residences that currently line this roadway?

I don't care. I just want a limited access highway from the Beltway up to Urbana.

Trolls going to troll, I guess.

270 and 355 are critically important pieces of road infrastructure for the county. At minimum it should not be controversial to widen 270 and also maintain the current number of 355 travel lanes. If you actually cared about the residents and businesses, that is.

It is controversial because widening the road is a waste of money and doesn't address the problem.

What do you think the problem is?

Too many people dependent on single occupancy vehicles. Maryland needs to invest in serious mass transit to connect Frederick to DC; Columbia to DC and the intermediate areas like Silver Spring, Bethesda, Rockville etc. Building more roads leads to having more cars sitting in the traffic they create. If the goal is to move people, then build infrastructure that does that.

Most people, such as yourself, who say ‘build more public transportation’ are the ones who would stay in their cars and never use it. They just want to get the poors off the road so they can have it to themselves.

Nope, I live in DC and seldom use 270 for anything. But induced demand is a thing, and 270 is a textbook case. Try something else, because adding more lanes simply doesn't solve the problem.

Adding lanes doesn’t solve the problem because after we add lanes we continue to add housing. Should we stop building housing? Of course not! That’s a terrible idea. We should continue building housing and we should continue adding roads to accommodate the cars that the new housing generates. Smart growth is a good idea but we don’t do smart growth in Montgomery County. We do car-oriented growth, even near transit. That has nothing to do with parking minimums and everything to do with the profitability of providing on-site parking for new housing.