Widening 355 in MoCo

[Anonymous]

Pike and Rose has cannibalised Rockville Town Center.

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Anonymous wrote:This road needs to be widened with another lane in each direction. It needs to be limited access so we can have interchanges. It will do wonders for the traffic in the area.

Just one more lane, just one more lane, just one more lane.

Why do so many people sound like junkies when it comes to widening roads. I think we should get rid of eminent domain for roadways. Only allow eminent domain for parks and school.

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Anonymous wrote:Pike and Rose has cannibalised Rockville Town Center.

Which is pretty much just a higher end version of that. Turns out people around here are pretty rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pike and Rose has cannibalised Rockville Town Center.

I’d much rather got to Rockville Town Square. However, the charge for parking is ridiculous, so I go to Rio more often. Especially for movies, food, and Target.

Pike and Rose is a nightmare. Too much development at once.

[Anonymous]

The lights on 355 suck. I can’t make more than two at a time it doesn’t help that sooo many people are on their phones. I watched a woman FaceTiming today near Georgetown pike. The car behind her didn’t care, he was texting! If you really look, nearly everyone is a distracted driver. That and poor light signaling causes major delays.

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Anonymous wrote:Pike and Rose has cannibalised Rockville Town Center.

I’d much rather got to Rockville Town Square. However, the charge for parking is ridiculous, so I go to Rio more often. Especially for movies, food, and Target.

Pike and Rose is a nightmare. Too much development at once.

2 hours is free at Rockville.

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Anonymous wrote:The lights on 355 suck. I can’t make more than two at a time it doesn’t help that sooo many people are on their phones. I watched a woman FaceTiming today near Georgetown pike. The car behind her didn’t care, he was texting! If you really look, nearly everyone is a distracted driver. That and poor light signaling causes major delays.

Why are you all so wedded to commuting and being a prisoner in your cars? Why aren't you lobbying your local government, showing up at planning commission meetings etc to lobby for the office space and amenities you need?

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Anonymous wrote:Pike and Rose has cannibalised Rockville Town Center.

I’d much rather got to Rockville Town Square. However, the charge for parking is ridiculous, so I go to Rio more often. Especially for movies, food, and Target.

Pike and Rose is a nightmare. Too much development at once.

So crowded, no one goes there.

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Anonymous wrote:How many people use busses to shop at the big box stores on 355.. I would have to walk to a ride on stop (which does not run with any frequency), ride a ride on to 355.wait for a second bus, rude to store and reverse to go home. Or just take my car.

You realize that in other parts of the world, people actually walk and bike to do their shopping, right? It is only in the US where fat, lazy Americans toodle around in carbon spewing boxes to get their errands done.

This is true but we plowed under our dense cities in the 1950's in order to rebuild them as a suburban/exurban hellscapes. The solution is to destroy all SFH's in the suburbs and force people to move into high rises.

Democrats' utopia/dream for everyone:

I will ask again, please cite a single instance where widening a road has had the effect of reducing congestion on said road.

Here’s a better example. Having reasonably wide parallel avenues creates a resilient road network that allows for higher density development that you presumably want. You have multiple parallel avenues and you have Manhattan. You have just two and you have the Wilson-Clarendon corridor in Arlington.

I would instead ask you for a single example of where in the world you had just one at-grade avenue that was about to serve as a foundational backbone for the types of density you want.

The only way the one road example works is with grade separated highways. So I’m scratching my head why the county is intentionally focusing on density along 355 (unless they plan to build a parallel road(s)) and not 270.

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Anonymous wrote:Pike and Rose has cannibalised Rockville Town Center.

I’d much rather got to Rockville Town Square. However, the charge for parking is ridiculous, so I go to Rio more often. Especially for movies, food, and Target.

Pike and Rose is a nightmare. Too much development at once.

So crowded, no one goes there.

Rockville Town Centre is not crowded and that is the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:The lights on 355 suck. I can’t make more than two at a time it doesn’t help that sooo many people are on their phones. I watched a woman FaceTiming today near Georgetown pike. The car behind her didn’t care, he was texting! If you really look, nearly everyone is a distracted driver. That and poor light signaling causes major delays.

Why are you all so wedded to commuting and being a prisoner in your cars? Why aren't you lobbying your local government, showing up at planning commission meetings etc to lobby for the office space and amenities you need?

You realize that the “housing first” policies and poor job environment, including poor infrastructure- particularly road infrastructure- means that there are no businesses with jobs to fill that office space. You want less people who live here to commute long distances then there needs to be job creation here.

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Pike and Rio both have actual shopping destinations LLBean, Target, B&N. RTC has small shops that might be like lovely occasionally but for day to day shopping needs you need to go elsewhere. The small shops also change over so quickly it will is hard to know whats there. SO to the small jeweler for watch batteries but I am not sure how he stays in business.

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Anonymous wrote:How many people use busses to shop at the big box stores on 355.. I would have to walk to a ride on stop (which does not run with any frequency), ride a ride on to 355.wait for a second bus, rude to store and reverse to go home. Or just take my car.

You realize that in other parts of the world, people actually walk and bike to do their shopping, right? It is only in the US where fat, lazy Americans toodle around in carbon spewing boxes to get their errands done.

This is true but we plowed under our dense cities in the 1950's in order to rebuild them as a suburban/exurban hellscapes. The solution is to destroy all SFH's in the suburbs and force people to move into high rises.

Democrats' utopia/dream for everyone:

I will ask again, please cite a single instance where widening a road has had the effect of reducing congestion on said road.

Here’s a better example. Having reasonably wide parallel avenues creates a resilient road network that allows for higher density development that you presumably want. You have multiple parallel avenues and you have Manhattan. You have just two and you have the Wilson-Clarendon corridor in Arlington.

I would instead ask you for a single example of where in the world you had just one at-grade avenue that was about to serve as a foundational backbone for the types of density you want.

The only way the one road example works is with grade separated highways. So I’m scratching my head why the county is intentionally focusing on density along 355 (unless they plan to build a parallel road(s)) and not 270.

So the answer is no, I cannot cite a single example where widening a road leads to less congestion.

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Anonymous wrote:Pike and Rose has cannibalised Rockville Town Center.

I’d much rather got to Rockville Town Square. However, the charge for parking is ridiculous, so I go to Rio more often. Especially for movies, food, and Target.

Pike and Rose is a nightmare. Too much development at once.

So crowded, no one goes there.

Rockville Town Centre is not crowded and that is the problem.

Pre-pandemic, RTC was doing ok, but some key places closed and the spaces are still empty. It has potential, but I know people don't like the parking situation, and there aren't as many "draws" as at Pike and Rose or Rio. I go to Rio pretty often thanks to Target, and I'd probably go to Pike and Rose more if it wasn't such a nightmare to drive there. Honestly, I'm surprised there aren't multiple accidents a day there, with all the pedestrians and horribly designed parking garages. I'm sure they want it to be walkable, but then is it only for people who live within walking distance?

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Anonymous wrote:Pike and Rose has cannibalised Rockville Town Center.

I’d much rather got to Rockville Town Square. However, the charge for parking is ridiculous, so I go to Rio more often. Especially for movies, food, and Target.

Pike and Rose is a nightmare. Too much development at once.

So crowded, no one goes there.

Rockville Town Centre is not crowded and that is the problem.

Pre-pandemic, RTC was doing ok, but some key places closed and the spaces are still empty. It has potential, but I know people don't like the parking situation, and there aren't as many "draws" as at Pike and Rose or Rio. I go to Rio pretty often thanks to Target, and I'd probably go to Pike and Rose more if it wasn't such a nightmare to drive there. Honestly, I'm surprised there aren't multiple accidents a day there, with all the pedestrians and horribly designed parking garages. I'm sure they want it to be walkable, but then is it only for people who live within walking distance?

RTC and Pike both have 2 hours free. Parking is the same.