Is Christian nationalism to blame for mass shootings?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Christian Nationalism even a thing right now? Did you ask yourself a question what caused this movement to gain so much popularity? Could it be crazy extremes the other side perpetuated over the recent years especially since 2020? When you rock the boat too much to one side, it will have to rock harder to the other side to keep balance, but this isn't how it works in reality. In reality you are just maximizing the crazy, 2 wrongs won't make it right


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If you are Christian (and a Republican), how do you react to an image like this? It absolutely horrifies me but I am neither Christian nor conservative. I would have thought that most religious people would just be sickened by this weird god, guns and flag. I can sort of get associating your religion with your political party (maybe?). But the rest feels like such a violation.


Horrified? Um,

- Trump was democratically and fairly elected. You may hate him (he may even horrify you). But that is democracy.

- the guns are rifles (or carbines); either way, they are “long guns.” Despite the media’s constant barrage of increasingly horrifying rhetoric (and I agree the incident was horrific beyond words), here are the facts:

- there were more Americans killed with clubs, fists and kitchen knives last year than with “long guns” of ANY TYPE - including so-called assault rifles. The chance of being killed with a rifle of any type is incredibly incredibly rare. That is just a fact. The fear that you or your child is about to die in a mass shooting is simply irrational hysteria.

- do a Wikipedia search on “DC v. Heller.” The short wiki page explains that personally owning - at home - a firearm is a right protected by our constitution, and it’s extremely unlike the constitution will be amended anytime soon. So people who write on DCUM “ban all guns” are being unrealistic in the extreme.

The flag is not, as you put it, a “violation.”


The right to own a firearm and particularly for hunting or personal protection is fine. What is the practical reason to own an AR-15? It has one use. Period. No one is going deer hunting with an AR-15.


The AR15 is a great defensive weapon. It has low recoil, and many have adjustable stocks, which means that shorter lighter people can fire it effectively, and the same firearm can fit multiple family members. First time my partner shot a shotgun with a trainer, they got a black eye from holding the stock loosly and the kickback was quite strong which makes follow up shots much more difficult.

You may be surprised to learn that you worry less about over penetration with .233 than many shotgun loads. In other words, you worry less that the round will go through your exterior walls and into someone elses house.


Those are great reasons to accept dead elementary school kids.


Weapon characteristics that translate well for home defense (i.e., in a building) also translate well for attacks inside buildings.
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Wow, so ghetto. White ghetto. But ghetto nonetheless.
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If you are Christian (and a Republican), how do you react to an image like this? It absolutely horrifies me but I am neither Christian nor conservative. I would have thought that most religious people would just be sickened by this weird god, guns and flag. I can sort of get associating your religion with your political party (maybe?). But the rest feels like such a violation.


Horrified? Um,

- Trump was democratically and fairly elected. You may hate him (he may even horrify you). But that is democracy.

- the guns are rifles (or carbines); either way, they are “long guns.” Despite the media’s constant barrage of increasingly horrifying rhetoric (and I agree the incident was horrific beyond words), here are the facts:

- there were more Americans killed with clubs, fists and kitchen knives last year than with “long guns” of ANY TYPE - including so-called assault rifles. The chance of being killed with a rifle of any type is incredibly incredibly rare. That is just a fact. The fear that you or your child is about to die in a mass shooting is simply irrational hysteria.

- do a Wikipedia search on “DC v. Heller.” The short wiki page explains that personally owning - at home - a firearm is a right protected by our constitution, and it’s extremely unlike the constitution will be amended anytime soon. So people who write on DCUM “ban all guns” are being unrealistic in the extreme.

The flag is not, as you put it, a “violation.”


The right to own a firearm and particularly for hunting or personal protection is fine. What is the practical reason to own an AR-15? It has one use. Period. No one is going deer hunting with an AR-15.


The AR15 is a great defensive weapon. It has low recoil, and many have adjustable stocks, which means that shorter lighter people can fire it effectively, and the same firearm can fit multiple family members. First time my partner shot a shotgun with a trainer, they got a black eye from holding the stock loosly and the kickback was quite strong which makes follow up shots much more difficult.

You may be surprised to learn that you worry less about over penetration with .233 than many shotgun loads. In other words, you worry less that the round will go through your exterior walls and into someone elses house.


Those are great reasons to accept dead elementary school kids.


It's about what the proper tool is for a situation. A scoped deer rifle isn't an appropriate tool for self defense in a home. It's like looking through binoculars, and the round can penetrate your neighbors house.
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If you are Christian (and a Republican), how do you react to an image like this? It absolutely horrifies me but I am neither Christian nor conservative. I would have thought that most religious people would just be sickened by this weird god, guns and flag. I can sort of get associating your religion with your political party (maybe?). But the rest feels like such a violation.


Horrified? Um,

- Trump was democratically and fairly elected. You may hate him (he may even horrify you). But that is democracy.

- the guns are rifles (or carbines); either way, they are “long guns.” Despite the media’s constant barrage of increasingly horrifying rhetoric (and I agree the incident was horrific beyond words), here are the facts:

- there were more Americans killed with clubs, fists and kitchen knives last year than with “long guns” of ANY TYPE - including so-called assault rifles. The chance of being killed with a rifle of any type is incredibly incredibly rare. That is just a fact. The fear that you or your child is about to die in a mass shooting is simply irrational hysteria.

- do a Wikipedia search on “DC v. Heller.” The short wiki page explains that personally owning - at home - a firearm is a right protected by our constitution, and it’s extremely unlike the constitution will be amended anytime soon. So people who write on DCUM “ban all guns” are being unrealistic in the extreme.

The flag is not, as you put it, a “violation.”


The right to own a firearm and particularly for hunting or personal protection is fine. What is the practical reason to own an AR-15? It has one use. Period. No one is going deer hunting with an AR-15.


The AR15 is a great defensive weapon. It has low recoil, and many have adjustable stocks, which means that shorter lighter people can fire it effectively, and the same firearm can fit multiple family members. First time my partner shot a shotgun with a trainer, they got a black eye from holding the stock loosly and the kickback was quite strong which makes follow up shots much more difficult.

You may be surprised to learn that you worry less about over penetration with .233 than many shotgun loads. In other words, you worry less that the round will go through your exterior walls and into someone elses house.


Those are great reasons to accept dead elementary school kids.


It's about what the proper tool is for a situation. A scoped deer rifle isn't an appropriate tool for self defense in a home. It's like looking through binoculars, and the round can penetrate your neighbors house.


So an AR is the only weapon suitable for home defense.
We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.
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If you are Christian (and a Republican), how do you react to an image like this? It absolutely horrifies me but I am neither Christian nor conservative. I would have thought that most religious people would just be sickened by this weird god, guns and flag. I can sort of get associating your religion with your political party (maybe?). But the rest feels like such a violation.


Horrified? Um,

- Trump was democratically and fairly elected. You may hate him (he may even horrify you). But that is democracy.

- the guns are rifles (or carbines); either way, they are “long guns.” Despite the media’s constant barrage of increasingly horrifying rhetoric (and I agree the incident was horrific beyond words), here are the facts:

- there were more Americans killed with clubs, fists and kitchen knives last year than with “long guns” of ANY TYPE - including so-called assault rifles. The chance of being killed with a rifle of any type is incredibly incredibly rare. That is just a fact. The fear that you or your child is about to die in a mass shooting is simply irrational hysteria.

- do a Wikipedia search on “DC v. Heller.” The short wiki page explains that personally owning - at home - a firearm is a right protected by our constitution, and it’s extremely unlike the constitution will be amended anytime soon. So people who write on DCUM “ban all guns” are being unrealistic in the extreme.

The flag is not, as you put it, a “violation.”


The right to own a firearm and particularly for hunting or personal protection is fine. What is the practical reason to own an AR-15? It has one use. Period. No one is going deer hunting with an AR-15.


The AR15 is a great defensive weapon. It has low recoil, and many have adjustable stocks, which means that shorter lighter people can fire it effectively, and the same firearm can fit multiple family members. First time my partner shot a shotgun with a trainer, they got a black eye from holding the stock loosly and the kickback was quite strong which makes follow up shots much more difficult.

You may be surprised to learn that you worry less about over penetration with .233 than many shotgun loads. In other words, you worry less that the round will go through your exterior walls and into someone elses house.


Those are great reasons to accept dead elementary school kids.


It's about what the proper tool is for a situation. A scoped deer rifle isn't an appropriate tool for self defense in a home. It's like looking through binoculars, and the round can penetrate your neighbors house.


So an AR is the only weapon suitable for home defense.
We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.


As long as we have firearms in society, there will always be risks. All of the dangers with respect to an AR pattern rifle apply to many other models that are cosmetically different.

If you are in an enclosed space and shooting at innocent kids, the type of firearm makes no difference. The goal should be to keep any sort of firearm out of the hands of a deranged shooter.



The rifle in the top part of the picture is what you would likely see as a the result of an assualt weapons ban, but it is no less dangerous than the one on the bottom. You have to understand that bringing back the old assault weapons ban means you are banning mostly cosmetic features, or things like a grenade launcher or a mount that holds a knife.
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So this is the new boogeyman. Never met one but ok.
Anonymous
An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.


New Republican bumper sticker:

An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.
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An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.


New Republican bumper sticker:

An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.
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explain why this would be any different with a handgun.
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Wow, so ghetto. White ghetto. But ghetto nonetheless.


+100. What do you want to bet this trashy weirdo despised Colin Kaepernick for kneeling for the flag? What do you want to bet they have a bumper sticker on their lifted F150 that says "We STAND for the flag in this house!"

Yet they have no compunctions about defiling the flag they pretend to revere with gun imagery and political slogans.
Anonymous
I honestly don’t understand why body armor is sold to civilians. Why can’t we ban that? Did the founding fathers want the freedom to wear body armor as well?
Anonymous
The second amendment was about the ability for the state to have an army. It had nothing to do with personal gun ownership and the NRA and GOP have framed it over the past 40 years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Pushing Bible & guns to groom kids.

"Those who live by the sword, die by the sword".

-another Bible verse (paraphrased).
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a32771/bateman-jerry-boykin-jesus-assault-rifle-tape-022014/


Jerry Boykin - EVP at Family Research Council

Retired lieutenant general who was the United States Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence under President George W. Bush

"Now I want you to think about this: where did the Second Amendment come from? ... From the Founding Fathers, it's in the Constitution. Well, yeah, I know that. But where did the whole concept come from? It came from Jesus..."

The Lord is a warrior and in Revelation 19 is says when he comes back, he's coming back as what? A warrior. A might warrior leading a mighty army, riding a white horse with a blood-stained white robe ... I believe that blood on that robe is the blood of his enemies 'cause he's coming back as a warrior carrying a sword."

"And I believe now - I've checked this out - I believe that sword he'll be carrying when he comes back is an AR-15."

"I know, everybody says that was a metaphor. IT WAS NOT A METAPHOR! …And that was the beginning of the Second Amendment, that's where the whole thing came from. ... I know that's where it came from. And the sword today is an AR-15, so if you don't have one, go get one. You're supposed to have one. It's biblical."


I guess he didn't read this part in the Bible:

John 18
…10Then Simon Peter drew his sword and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his right ear. The servant’s name was Malchus. 11“Put your sword back in its sheath!” Jesus said to Peter. “Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given Me?”

The fire and brimstone preaching of Evangelicals is frightening. It's all about war and hell. They have completely missed the point of Jesus' sacrifice.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is Christian Nationalism even a thing right now? Did you ask yourself a question what caused this movement to gain so much popularity? Could it be crazy extremes the other side perpetuated over the recent years especially since 2020? When you rock the boat too much to one side, it will have to rock harder to the other side to keep balance, but this isn't how it works in reality. In reality you are just maximizing the crazy, 2 wrongs won't make it right


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What? Point to a single word that mentioned LGBTQ in any shape of form in the statement you are referring to.


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