Is Christian nationalism to blame for mass shootings?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The second amendment was about the ability for the state to have an army. It had nothing to do with personal gun ownership and the NRA and GOP have framed it over the past 40 years.


Yup. “The people” <> individuals
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Anonymous wrote:Why is Christian Nationalism even a thing right now? Did you ask yourself a question what caused this movement to gain so much popularity? Could it be crazy extremes the other side perpetuated over the recent years especially since 2020? When you rock the boat too much to one side, it will have to rock harder to the other side to keep balance, but this isn't how it works in reality. In reality you are just maximizing the crazy, 2 wrongs won't make it right


Tell me you're anti-LGBTQ without telling me you're anti-LGBTQ.


What? Point to a single word that mentioned LGBTQ in any shape of form in the statement you are referring to.


Not a single word, which is why I said “without telling me you’re anti-LGBTQ”.

What exactly was “rocking the boat” to the left that resulted in the Christian nationalists pushing harder to the right?
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An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.


New Republican bumper sticker:

An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.
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explain why this would be any different with a handgun.


Do you not know how the Uvalde shooting would have been different with a handgun?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:One theory - embraced as recently as yesterday on The View - is Christian nationalism is causing these mass shootings. Along with trump, it’s popularity is increasing, especially in Texas.

Anyone else think this is what’s up?


Each year, a greater percentage of Americans identify as non-religious. If anything, we’re at the last stages of the “religious right”. https://dnyuz.com/2022/06/01/what-comes-after-the-religious-right/


And each year, problems increase. Hmmmm
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.


New Republican bumper sticker:

An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.
.


explain why this would be any different with a handgun.


Do you not know how the Uvalde shooting would have been different with a handgun?


No, please lay it out for me.

The shooter engaged in close rang against unarmed kids and teachers. Rifles have an advantage over long distances, but the kids were inside a building. The fire rate between a semi auto hand gun and a semi auto rifle is the same. 30 round magazines exist for hand guns.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:One theory - embraced as recently as yesterday on The View - is Christian nationalism is causing these mass shootings. Along with trump, it’s popularity is increasing, especially in Texas.

Anyone else think this is what’s up?


Each year, a greater percentage of Americans identify as non-religious. If anything, we’re at the last stages of the “religious right”. https://dnyuz.com/2022/06/01/what-comes-after-the-religious-right/


And each year, problems increase. Hmmmm


Oh give me a f’in break like we all are not aware of the freakin dark ages. Do you even believe this nonsense or are you just trolling? Afghanistan is super freaking religious and look how awesome Kabul is these days. I cant even.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One theory - embraced as recently as yesterday on The View - is Christian nationalism is causing these mass shootings. Along with trump, it’s popularity is increasing, especially in Texas.

Anyone else think this is what’s up?


Each year, a greater percentage of Americans identify as non-religious. If anything, we’re at the last stages of the “religious right”. https://dnyuz.com/2022/06/01/what-comes-after-the-religious-right/


And each year, problems increase. Hmmmm


Please tell me about the thousands of years of recorded history chock full of all sorts of death and suffering that caused directly by religion. Hmmmmm.
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If you are Christian (and a Republican), how do you react to an image like this? It absolutely horrifies me but I am neither Christian nor conservative. I would have thought that most religious people would just be sickened by this weird god, guns and flag. I can sort of get associating your religion with your political party (maybe?). But the rest feels like such a violation.


Horrified? Um,

- Trump was democratically and fairly elected. You may hate him (he may even horrify you). But that is democracy.

- the guns are rifles (or carbines); either way, they are “long guns.” Despite the media’s constant barrage of increasingly horrifying rhetoric (and I agree the incident was horrific beyond words), here are the facts:

- there were more Americans killed with clubs, fists and kitchen knives last year than with “long guns” of ANY TYPE - including so-called assault rifles. The chance of being killed with a rifle of any type is incredibly incredibly rare. That is just a fact. The fear that you or your child is about to die in a mass shooting is simply irrational hysteria.

- do a Wikipedia search on “DC v. Heller.” The short wiki page explains that personally owning - at home - a firearm is a right protected by our constitution, and it’s extremely unlike the constitution will be amended anytime soon. So people who write on DCUM “ban all guns” are being unrealistic in the extreme.

The flag is not, as you put it, a “violation.”


You misunderstand me.
You have the absolute right to vote for whoever you want. That is not horrifying.
You have the absolute right to follow whatever religion you want. That is also not horrifying.
Sadly, in this country, you apparently have the right to own whatever gun you want. I do think that’s horrifying but accept that you currently have that right.

What feels like a violation? The juxtaposition of religion (supposed to be for nourishing your soul) with weapons. I am asking Christians whether they just have a completely different understanding of religion such that this makes sense to them. And putting that ugly juxtaposition on the American flag (which belongs to me as much as it belongs to you) is desecrating the flag.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One theory - embraced as recently as yesterday on The View - is Christian nationalism is causing these mass shootings. Along with trump, it’s popularity is increasing, especially in Texas.

Anyone else think this is what’s up?


Each year, a greater percentage of Americans identify as non-religious. If anything, we’re at the last stages of the “religious right”. https://dnyuz.com/2022/06/01/what-comes-after-the-religious-right/


And each year, problems increase. Hmmmm


Yes, religious extremists aren’t the majority but they hold positions of power - including the SCOTUS.
Anonymous
Christian nationalism?

Was the Paris Shooting caused by Christian Nationalism? How about the pulse night club shooter? The VT shooter? The DC beltway snipers?

Going on a stretch here. I guess Christianity is responsible for mass shooting as much as communism is responsible for millions of deaths. I hardly doubt the types to shoot up cities like Chicago and Baltimore every weekend are church going types.
Anonymous
Progressives hate Christians; they think shootings in Chicago and Baltimore are just fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Progressives hate Christians; they think shootings in Chicago and Baltimore are just fine.


If we think the shootings are just fine them why would we want to outlaw guns?

You are only fighting yourself in your own mind.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I think Christian nationalism and mass shootings are a correlation issue and not a causation issue. Under educated white men who haven’t done much with their lives and want to blame something or someone besides themselves. Add a dash of mental illness and right wing peopaganda and two results are violence and Christian nationalism.


As a black person, this sounds racist. Imagine if you generalized about a group of black men (literally just replace the word white with black). It wouldn’t sound good. This doesn’t need to be about race as well — Virginia tech was an Asian guy, and Boston bombing were middle eastern guys. I’m sure you can find other examples.
Anonymous
Christian nationalism is the belief that America is basically a promised land for Christianity. It is a belief that America is exceptional and not to be criticized. It is a belief that the founding fathers are somehow above reproach. This means that when the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written, the authors were incredible human beings that shouldn't be questioned - therefore the Second Amendment is absolute. Because we can't question the Second Amendment, guns are readily available. Because guns are readily available, angry men can easily create chaos and tragedy. This type of belief does not lend itself to critical thinking. When you wrap up religion with nationalism you no longer are capable of logically thinking about issues like sensible gun laws - because your identity is now being threatened.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.


New Republican bumper sticker:

An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.
.


explain why this would be any different with a handgun.


Do you not know how the Uvalde shooting would have been different with a handgun?


Clearly they don't. Sad.
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