Is Christian nationalism to blame for mass shootings?

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Anonymous wrote:Christian nationalism is the belief that America is basically a promised land for Christianity. It is a belief that America is exceptional and not to be criticized. It is a belief that the founding fathers are somehow above reproach. This means that when the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written, the authors were incredible human beings that shouldn't be questioned - therefore the Second Amendment is absolute. Because we can't question the Second Amendment, guns are readily available. Because guns are readily available, angry men can easily create chaos and tragedy. This type of belief does not lend itself to critical thinking. When you wrap up religion with nationalism you no longer are capable of logically thinking about issues like sensible gun laws - because your identity is now being threatened.


Of course, the US was founded as a secular, not Christian nation; a fact lost on these morons.


Not quite true - not so much secular as religiously independent - the Pilgrims had experienced religious persecution in merry old England and wanted citizens of their adopted homeland to enjoy religious freedom to practice whatever belief they chose. One nation under God and all that.


God could be the Jewish god, the Muslim god or the pagan gods.

It was not a Christian god.


Yes in order to preserve religious, not secular, freedom.
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An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.


New Republican bumper sticker:

An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.
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explain why this would be any different with a handgun.


Do you not know how the Uvalde shooting would have been different with a handgun?


Biden wants to ban handguns now too, though. He said that 9mm is "high caliber" and no rational person would have a reason to own ammo. He claims that 9mms shoot lungs out of bodies.

I own two guns. One is a 9mm handgun, which I used to use professionally and am most comfortable with. The second is a rifle and it's actually smaller caliber, at .22mm. It's not always a rifle vs handgun question.
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Anonymous wrote:Christian nationalism is the belief that America is basically a promised land for Christianity. It is a belief that America is exceptional and not to be criticized. It is a belief that the founding fathers are somehow above reproach. This means that when the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written, the authors were incredible human beings that shouldn't be questioned - therefore the Second Amendment is absolute. Because we can't question the Second Amendment, guns are readily available. Because guns are readily available, angry men can easily create chaos and tragedy. This type of belief does not lend itself to critical thinking. When you wrap up religion with nationalism you no longer are capable of logically thinking about issues like sensible gun laws - because your identity is now being threatened.


Of course, the US was founded as a secular, not Christian nation; a fact lost on these morons.


Not quite true - not so much secular as religiously independent - the Pilgrims had experienced religious persecution in merry old England and wanted citizens of their adopted homeland to enjoy religious freedom to practice whatever belief they chose. One nation under God and all that.


God could be the Jewish god, the Muslim god or the pagan gods.

It was not a Christian god.


Yes in order to preserve religious, not secular, freedom.


The pilgrims didn’t found our country. They were just OG colonizers of the Northeast.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.


New Republican bumper sticker:

An AR-15 is the only weapon suitable for home defense. We just have to accept some kindergartners are gonna get their faces blown off.
.


explain why this would be any different with a handgun.


Do you not know how the Uvalde shooting would have been different with a handgun?


Biden wants to ban handguns now too, though. He said that 9mm is "high caliber" and no rational person would have a reason to own ammo. He claims that 9mms shoot lungs out of bodies.

I own two guns. One is a 9mm handgun, which I used to use professionally and am most comfortable with. The second is a rifle and it's actually smaller caliber, at .22mm. It's not always a rifle vs handgun question.


You don’t need it professionally anymore?
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Anonymous wrote:Christian nationalism is the belief that America is basically a promised land for Christianity. It is a belief that America is exceptional and not to be criticized. It is a belief that the founding fathers are somehow above reproach. This means that when the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written, the authors were incredible human beings that shouldn't be questioned - therefore the Second Amendment is absolute. Because we can't question the Second Amendment, guns are readily available. Because guns are readily available, angry men can easily create chaos and tragedy. This type of belief does not lend itself to critical thinking. When you wrap up religion with nationalism you no longer are capable of logically thinking about issues like sensible gun laws - because your identity is now being threatened.


Of course, the US was founded as a secular, not Christian nation; a fact lost on these morons.


Not quite true - not so much secular as religiously independent - the Pilgrims had experienced religious persecution in merry old England and wanted citizens of their adopted homeland to enjoy religious freedom to practice whatever belief they chose. One nation under God and all that.


God could be the Jewish god, the Muslim god or the pagan gods.

It was not a Christian god.


Though Sunday is the only day mentioned in the constitution (Article 1, Section 7), so they probably weren't really considering any other religions.
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Anonymous wrote:Christian nationalism is the belief that America is basically a promised land for Christianity. It is a belief that America is exceptional and not to be criticized. It is a belief that the founding fathers are somehow above reproach. This means that when the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written, the authors were incredible human beings that shouldn't be questioned - therefore the Second Amendment is absolute. Because we can't question the Second Amendment, guns are readily available. Because guns are readily available, angry men can easily create chaos and tragedy. This type of belief does not lend itself to critical thinking. When you wrap up religion with nationalism you no longer are capable of logically thinking about issues like sensible gun laws - because your identity is now being threatened.


Of course, the US was founded as a secular, not Christian nation; a fact lost on these morons.


Not quite true - not so much secular as religiously independent - the Pilgrims had experienced religious persecution in merry old England and wanted citizens of their adopted homeland to enjoy religious freedom to practice whatever belief they chose. One nation under God and all that.


God could be the Jewish god, the Muslim god or the pagan gods.

It was not a Christian god.


Though Sunday is the only day mentioned in the constitution (Article 1, Section 7), so they probably weren't really considering any other religions.


Which is a great reason not to be an originalist. Like all rational people I refuse to be governed by the rules of a religion that I don’t follow.
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Nobody needs a gun.
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Anonymous wrote:Christian nationalism is the belief that America is basically a promised land for Christianity. It is a belief that America is exceptional and not to be criticized. It is a belief that the founding fathers are somehow above reproach. This means that when the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written, the authors were incredible human beings that shouldn't be questioned - therefore the Second Amendment is absolute. Because we can't question the Second Amendment, guns are readily available. Because guns are readily available, angry men can easily create chaos and tragedy. This type of belief does not lend itself to critical thinking. When you wrap up religion with nationalism you no longer are capable of logically thinking about issues like sensible gun laws - because your identity is now being threatened.


Of course, the US was founded as a secular, not Christian nation; a fact lost on these morons.


Not quite true - not so much secular as religiously independent - the Pilgrims had experienced religious persecution in merry old England and wanted citizens of their adopted homeland to enjoy religious freedom to practice whatever belief they chose. One nation under God and all that.


God could be the Jewish god, the Muslim god or the pagan gods.

It was not a Christian god.


Yes in order to preserve religious, not secular, freedom.


The pilgrims didn’t found our country. They were just OG colonizers of the Northeast.



The founders intended a separation of church and state to ensure religious freedom.
… approximately 98% of all Americans of European descent would have identified with one form or another of Protestantism. And in particular, about three fourths of Americans would have been affiliated with the reformed theological tradition.


The right to freedom of religion is so central to American democracy that it was enshrined in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. 
Recognizing the unique and intimate nature of religion, the Founding Fathers wisely put religion on a different footing in the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment from other forms of speech and observance - mandating strict separation of religion and government to ensure religious freedom for all individuals and faiths. Largely because of the First Amendment's prohibition against government regulation or endorsement of religion, diverse faiths have flourished and thrived in America since the founding of the republic.

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/founding-fathers-and-us-presidents-statements-religious-freedom

"Nothing is more dreaded than the national government meddling with religion." —John Adams, in a letter to Benjamin Rush. 1812
"[T]hat the opinions of men are not the object of civil government, nor under its jurisdiction; that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty." —Thomas Jefferson, 1779.
"The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man: and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate." —James Madison, 1785.
"Driven from every other corner of the earth, freedom of thought and the right of private judgment in matters of conscience direct their course to this happy country as their last asylum." —Samuel Adams, Speech on August 1, 1776.
"While we are contending for our own liberty, we should be very cautious not to violate the conscience of others, ever considering that God alone is the judge of the hearts of men, and to Him only in this case are they answerable." —George Washington, in a letter to Benedict Arnold.
"Conscience is the most sacred of all property." —James Madison, 1792.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Christian nationalism is the belief that America is basically a promised land for Christianity. It is a belief that America is exceptional and not to be criticized. It is a belief that the founding fathers are somehow above reproach. This means that when the Constitution and Bill of Rights were written, the authors were incredible human beings that shouldn't be questioned - therefore the Second Amendment is absolute. Because we can't question the Second Amendment, guns are readily available. Because guns are readily available, angry men can easily create chaos and tragedy. This type of belief does not lend itself to critical thinking. When you wrap up religion with nationalism you no longer are capable of logically thinking about issues like sensible gun laws - because your identity is now being threatened.


Of course, the US was founded as a secular, not Christian nation; a fact lost on these morons.


Not quite true - not so much secular as religiously independent - the Pilgrims had experienced religious persecution in merry old England and wanted citizens of their adopted homeland to enjoy religious freedom to practice whatever belief they chose. One nation under God and all that.


God could be the Jewish god, the Muslim god or the pagan gods.

It was not a Christian god.


Yes in order to preserve religious, not secular, freedom.


The pilgrims didn’t found our country. They were just OG colonizers of the Northeast.



The founders intended a separation of church and state to ensure religious freedom.
… approximately 98% of all Americans of European descent would have identified with one form or another of Protestantism. And in particular, about three fourths of Americans would have been affiliated with the reformed theological tradition.


The right to freedom of religion is so central to American democracy that it was enshrined in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. 
Recognizing the unique and intimate nature of religion, the Founding Fathers wisely put religion on a different footing in the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment from other forms of speech and observance - mandating strict separation of religion and government to ensure religious freedom for all individuals and faiths. Largely because of the First Amendment's prohibition against government regulation or endorsement of religion, diverse faiths have flourished and thrived in America since the founding of the republic.

https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/founding-fathers-and-us-presidents-statements-religious-freedom

"Nothing is more dreaded than the national government meddling with religion." —John Adams, in a letter to Benjamin Rush. 1812
"[T]hat the opinions of men are not the object of civil government, nor under its jurisdiction; that to suffer the civil magistrate to intrude his powers into the field of opinion and to restrain the profession or propagation of principles on supposition of their ill tendency is a dangerous fallacy, which at once destroys all religious liberty." —Thomas Jefferson, 1779.
"The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man: and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate." —James Madison, 1785.
"Driven from every other corner of the earth, freedom of thought and the right of private judgment in matters of conscience direct their course to this happy country as their last asylum." —Samuel Adams, Speech on August 1, 1776.
"While we are contending for our own liberty, we should be very cautious not to violate the conscience of others, ever considering that God alone is the judge of the hearts of men, and to Him only in this case are they answerable." —George Washington, in a letter to Benedict Arnold.
"Conscience is the most sacred of all property." —James Madison, 1792.


But many modern evangelicals wrongly claim freedom of religion is exclusively for the benefit of Protestant Christians and worse, recklessly align themselves with Republican nationalism -/ even though the founding fathers and Jesus himself both advocated a division of state and religion.
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◄ Mark 12:17 ►
Context Crossref Comment Greek
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New International Version
Then Jesus said to them, “Give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.” And they were amazed at him.

New Living Translation
“Well, then,” Jesus said, “give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar, and give to God what belongs to God.” His reply completely amazed them.

English Standard Version
Jesus said to them, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they marveled at him.
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Dang. They are truly fcked in the head.
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Psalm 144 1
Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle. He is my loving God and my fortress, my stronghold and my deliverer, my shield, in whom I take refuge, who subdues peoples under me.

For the Bible Belt and red states, Maybe we should repackage gun safety and control efforts as Mathew 5:9

Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God.

Or
John 16:31

Or
Psalm 4:8

Or
Psalm 72:7

Or
Isaiah 52:7

Or
Proverbs 3:16-18

Or
Proverbs 12:20

Or
John 14:27

Or
Romans 14:17

Or
2 Corinthians 13:1

Or
Philippians 4:7

Or
Colossians 3:15

Or
2 Thessalonians 3:16

Or
2 John 1:2


You get the idea … many more scriptural references to God and his/ her angels loving peace than being mindless war mongers or gun fetishists …

Saint Augustine (4th century saint, first author of an autobiography, and most importantly, originator of Just War Theory that was later refined by St Thomas Aquinas and used by Western military for many centuries), would be rolling in his grave at the way Republicans and NRA have misappropriated biblical scripture for unholy purposes that justify cruel and reckless gun violence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Nobody needs a gun.


Rights aren't needs.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody needs a gun.


Rights aren't needs.


Rights aren’t fixed.
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