One D.C. stop-sign camera brought in $1.3 million in tickets in 2 years

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

DP but if your goal is to prevent traffic on your busy street in the city, it sounds like the suburbs may actually be the environment you are looking for?

Serious question.


You got it backwards. City dwellers like me want to live in a vibrant and walkable urban environment. It is your out-of-state suburban road rage that doesn't belong here. Just stay in your boring suburban hell hole and race around there.

Sounds like you would really prefer King Farm. It’s a great neighborhood. Very walkable with a nice and vibrant commercial district. But it’s also very quiet and peaceful as well.


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Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

DP but if your goal is to prevent traffic on your busy street in the city, it sounds like the suburbs may actually be the environment you are looking for?

Serious question.


You got it backwards. City dwellers like me want to live in a vibrant and walkable urban environment. It is your out-of-state suburban road rage that doesn't belong here. Just stay in your boring suburban hell hole and race around there.

Sounds like you would really prefer King Farm. It’s a great neighborhood. Very walkable with a nice and vibrant commercial district. But it’s also very quiet and peaceful as well.





Sure that also looks nice if that's all you can afford.

But whether it's King Farm or a historic neighborhood in DC, those are not the place for idiots like you to take out your road rage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

DP but if your goal is to prevent traffic on your busy street in the city, it sounds like the suburbs may actually be the environment you are looking for?

Serious question.


You got it backwards. City dwellers like me want to live in a vibrant and walkable urban environment. It is your out-of-state suburban road rage that doesn't belong here. Just stay in your boring suburban hell hole and race around there.

Sounds like you would really prefer King Farm. It’s a great neighborhood. Very walkable with a nice and vibrant commercial district. But it’s also very quiet and peaceful as well.





Sure that also looks nice if that's all you can afford.

But whether it's King Farm or a historic neighborhood in DC, those are not the place for idiots like you to take out your road rage.


Karen the racist makes another appearance
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

DP but if your goal is to prevent traffic on your busy street in the city, it sounds like the suburbs may actually be the environment you are looking for?

Serious question.


You got it backwards. City dwellers like me want to live in a vibrant and walkable urban environment. It is your out-of-state suburban road rage that doesn't belong here. Just stay in your boring suburban hell hole and race around there.

Sounds like you would really prefer King Farm. It’s a great neighborhood. Very walkable with a nice and vibrant commercial district. But it’s also very quiet and peaceful as well.





Sure that also looks nice if that's all you can afford.

But whether it's King Farm or a historic neighborhood in DC, those are not the place for idiots like you to take out your road rage.

Life is about trade offs. If you choose to live in a vibrant city, the last thing you should expect is peace and quiet. Sounds like a bit of NIMBYism going on here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

DP but if your goal is to prevent traffic on your busy street in the city, it sounds like the suburbs may actually be the environment you are looking for?

Serious question.


You got it backwards. City dwellers like me want to live in a vibrant and walkable urban environment. It is your out-of-state suburban road rage that doesn't belong here. Just stay in your boring suburban hell hole and race around there.

Sounds like you would really prefer King Farm. It’s a great neighborhood. Very walkable with a nice and vibrant commercial district. But it’s also very quiet and peaceful as well.





Sure that also looks nice if that's all you can afford.

But whether it's King Farm or a historic neighborhood in DC, those are not the place for idiots like you to take out your road rage.

Life is about trade offs. If you choose to live in a vibrant city, the last thing you should expect is peace and quiet. Sounds like a bit of NIMBYism going on here.


Um, all PP was asking was for people to stop at stop signs. Believe it or not, dangerous traffic is not a requirement for a city.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

DP but if your goal is to prevent traffic on your busy street in the city, it sounds like the suburbs may actually be the environment you are looking for?

Serious question.


You got it backwards. City dwellers like me want to live in a vibrant and walkable urban environment. It is your out-of-state suburban road rage that doesn't belong here. Just stay in your boring suburban hell hole and race around there.

Sounds like you would really prefer King Farm. It’s a great neighborhood. Very walkable with a nice and vibrant commercial district. But it’s also very quiet and peaceful as well.





Sure that also looks nice if that's all you can afford.

But whether it's King Farm or a historic neighborhood in DC, those are not the place for idiots like you to take out your road rage.

Life is about trade offs. If you choose to live in a vibrant city, the last thing you should expect is peace and quiet. Sounds like a bit of NIMBYism going on here.


Um, nobody is asking for peace and quiet. All I want is to not have my school-age children get mowed over by crazy speeders like you who don't even live here. Again, suburban hotheads and crazy road rage have nothing to do with vibrant life in the city.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Yes, the fact that you don't care about the children who live where you drive poorly is exactly why no one is crying for your "money grab" woes. Learn to drive or stay home.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

DP but if your goal is to prevent traffic on your busy street in the city, it sounds like the suburbs may actually be the environment you are looking for?

Serious question.


They aren't ticketing people for driving. They're ticketing people for driving poorly and breaking the law. You keep crying about "busy streets" and "traffic" but neither is at issue.
Stop at stop signs. Do it in my city neighborhood and in suburban neighborhoods where I don't care to live. Because it's the law. At the very least, if you can't be bothered to do it, stop freaking whining about getting the ticket that you deserve.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

DP but if your goal is to prevent traffic on your busy street in the city, it sounds like the suburbs may actually be the environment you are looking for?

Serious question.


They aren't ticketing people for driving. They're ticketing people for driving poorly and breaking the law. You keep crying about "busy streets" and "traffic" but neither is at issue.
Stop at stop signs. Do it in my city neighborhood and in suburban neighborhoods where I don't care to live. Because it's the law. At the very least, if you can't be bothered to do it, stop freaking whining about getting the ticket that you deserve.


The law is a "complete stop". The law is not stay behind a line for four seconds at a relative standstill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

DP but if your goal is to prevent traffic on your busy street in the city, it sounds like the suburbs may actually be the environment you are looking for?

Serious question.


They aren't ticketing people for driving. They're ticketing people for driving poorly and breaking the law. You keep crying about "busy streets" and "traffic" but neither is at issue.
Stop at stop signs. Do it in my city neighborhood and in suburban neighborhoods where I don't care to live. Because it's the law. At the very least, if you can't be bothered to do it, stop freaking whining about getting the ticket that you deserve.


The law is a "complete stop". The law is not stay behind a line for four seconds at a relative standstill.


And tickets are issued for not coming to a complete stop behind the line. The four second thing is a complete lie fabricated by a whiner that was debunked by every posted video. Everyone complaining that they completely stopped rolled the stop sign in their video. Every single one.
Anonymous
But I completely stopped stepping on the gas, isn't that what it means?

-a dumb butt who shouldn't be allowed to drive anything more than a golf cart
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

Well, we suburbans are not paying these fines either.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

Well, we suburbans are not paying these fines either.


And most of the money goes to the contractor
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

DP but if your goal is to prevent traffic on your busy street in the city, it sounds like the suburbs may actually be the environment you are looking for?

Serious question.


They aren't ticketing people for driving. They're ticketing people for driving poorly and breaking the law. You keep crying about "busy streets" and "traffic" but neither is at issue.
Stop at stop signs. Do it in my city neighborhood and in suburban neighborhoods where I don't care to live. Because it's the law. At the very least, if you can't be bothered to do it, stop freaking whining about getting the ticket that you deserve.


The law is a "complete stop". The law is not stay behind a line for four seconds at a relative standstill.


And tickets are issued for not coming to a complete stop behind the line. The four second thing is a complete lie fabricated by a whiner that was debunked by every posted video. Everyone complaining that they completely stopped rolled the stop sign in their video. Every single one.


Is it? How do the videos debunk that? Did they release videos of cars that weren't ticketed. How does the algorithm determine what is or what is not a complete stop?

Complete stop is a somewhat subjective term. Automated camera runs on objective rules. What are those rules since "complete stop" is not something that can be programmed?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As someone who lives on a corner where people constantly blow through the stop sign, I think the argument "images show the brake lights were on" is idiotic. Plenty of people slow down at stop signs (brake lights!) without stopping. It's not a slow down sign.

Make a complete stop, behind the line. If that seems outrageously onerous to you, you're a bad driver. These stop signs are in residential neighborhoods and I don't care that you're in a hurry.


I don’t care that you choose to live in a city on a busy road. So there’s that. It’s onerous and a money grab.


Well then go fishtailing in your boring suburb. We don't want your road rage here.

Also, I'd rather have DC raise fines on crazy speeders so that ordinary residents don't have to pay as much in taxes. Seems like an excellent tradeoff

DP but if your goal is to prevent traffic on your busy street in the city, it sounds like the suburbs may actually be the environment you are looking for?

Serious question.


You got it backwards. City dwellers like me want to live in a vibrant and walkable urban environment. It is your out-of-state suburban road rage that doesn't belong here. Just stay in your boring suburban hell hole and race around there.

Sounds like you would really prefer King Farm. It’s a great neighborhood. Very walkable with a nice and vibrant commercial district. But it’s also very quiet and peaceful as well.





Sure that also looks nice if that's all you can afford.

But whether it's King Farm or a historic neighborhood in DC, those are not the place for idiots like you to take out your road rage.


Karen the racist makes another appearance
Weird misogynistic/racist response. Unnecessary. Camera is oversensitive and snags a lot of people, including low-income people which in this area, are more likely to be POC, so likely has disproportionate impact. All the more reason that it should be adjusted.
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