One D.C. stop-sign camera brought in $1.3 million in tickets in 2 years

[Anonymous]

Use the $$ to build bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:What I would like to see an explanation for is what is the public safety interest in needing a car to stop 3 feet behind a line for exactly 4 seconds and if it’s 2 feet and/or 3 seconds one deserves a $100 fine.

This is to me what doesn’t make sense and I have yet to hear a defense of this that makes any sense.

Hhahahah. I live in the neighborhood and blow through the stop sign all the time. The camera doesn't trigger unless you are over about 5 mph. I think they only bust 25 per day. That is almost NOTHING. Basically all the videos catch people going through at 10 mph+.

Even the most ardent supporter of this above agrees that it will catch people who do not perform a “complete stop”. They have even posted videos demonstrating this. So why are you lying? Seriously? What is the point and what do you think you are trying to accomplish? Do you believe that you are engaged in some sort of propaganda campaign or something? I just cannot understand what you think you’re doing.

DP. Why are you acting like coming to a complete stop (i.e. following the law) is too onerous for drivers to manage? Every person in those videos is breaking the law and a small fine is completely appropriate.

The issue is quite clear and has been well articulated by many people that they have configured these things with such tight tolerances that it is not sufficient to just stop. A “complete stop” seems to be a specific thing that requires stopping many feet in advance of the sign and resting for a minimum of four seconds before proceeding.

That sounds like … a complete stop. You are supposed to stop completely, in advance of the stop sign. “stopping” in the crosswalk ain’t it.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what compels people to post just to be a-holes.

I would just posit two things. First, while you may it funny that people you perceive to be your enemies are being punished, predatory government behavior doesn’t confine itself to your narrow politics and eventually it will affect something important to you. As a result, everyone should have a vested interest in ensuring that the government doesn’t act abusively.

Second, as frustration with abusive government behavior grows it’s now becoming a political issue which may stir a counter-action that you may like even less.

Wrong. This is not predatory government. This is finally taking a step in stopping abusive speeders killing too many of our pedestrians.

Don't want a ticket? Just.slow.down.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what compels people to post just to be a-holes.

I would just posit two things. First, while you may it funny that people you perceive to be your enemies are being punished, predatory government behavior doesn’t confine itself to your narrow politics and eventually it will affect something important to you. As a result, everyone should have a vested interest in ensuring that the government doesn’t act abusively.

Second, as frustration with abusive government behavior grows it’s now becoming a political issue which may stir a counter-action that you may like even less.

I also love the false outrage and trying to make this about tyrannical government. Imagine if robbers and murderers wrapped themselves in the flag and protested how criminal laws violate their personal freedoms! So dude, if you're speeding or running red lights, you're just wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not sure what compels people to post just to be a-holes.

I would just posit two things. First, while you may it funny that people you perceive to be your enemies are being punished, predatory government behavior doesn’t confine itself to your narrow politics and eventually it will affect something important to you. As a result, everyone should have a vested interest in ensuring that the government doesn’t act abusively.

Second, as frustration with abusive government behavior grows it’s now becoming a political issue which may stir a counter-action that you may like even less.

I also love the false outrage and trying to make this about tyrannical government. Imagine if robbers and murderers wrapped themselves in the flag and protested how criminal laws violate their personal freedoms! So dude, if you're speeding or running red lights, you're just wrong.

You could be a Senator, Governor, or maybe even POTUS.

[Anonymous]

I live near the Fessenden Street stop sign camera and enjoy sitting on my porch and guessing which cars will be getting tickets. The double flash tells me if I was right. People always complain about how many tickets these cameras issue, but I would say half the people who fail to make a proper stop aren't ticketed because they're going slow enough it doesn't trigger the camera.

Most people who DO make a complete stop and still get a ticket are the ones who come to a complete stop over the white stop line (most well into the pedestrian walkway). While that's plenty of room for a passing car to make it through the intersection safely, that's not enough for the pedestrian you didn't notice.

My advice if you don't want a ticket—approach stop signs slowly, make a complete stop before the "stop line", or avoid Fessenden. If this camera makes you do any or all over those, it's doing its job!

[Anonymous]

There's one of these BS cameras on Arizona as well. It only works in one direction, though. Why not both (not advocating for the camera, but it seems silly to only have 1 camera on a two-way street)?

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Anonymous wrote:There's one of these BS cameras on Arizona as well. It only works in one direction, though. Why not both (not advocating for the camera, but it seems silly to only have 1 camera on a two-way street)?

Agree there should be cameras in both directions. Unfortunately there are still way too many crazy speeders. The other day my DS almost got run over by a commuter going 50+ in a 25mph zone while checking his phone.

[Anonymous]

This is why I have a license plate cover.

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Anonymous wrote:There's one of these BS cameras on Arizona as well. It only works in one direction, though. Why not both (not advocating for the camera, but it seems silly to only have 1 camera on a two-way street)?

Agree there should be cameras in both directions. Unfortunately there are still way too many crazy speeders. The other day my DS almost got run over by a commuter going 50+ in a 25mph zone while checking his phone.

A 12 year old was just critically injured by a driver on his way to school this morning in my neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I have a license plate cover.

Our family member just got pulled over in DC for having a plate cover. $400 fine.

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Anonymous wrote:They don’t do this to you in MD or VA. Just sayin’.

MD and VA have real live traffic cops handing out tickets. People who complain about camera tickets in DC are the biggest whiners on Earth. There's no jurisdiction where traffic laws go completely unenforced, nor should there be.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I have a license plate cover.

Our family member just got pulled over in DC for having a plate cover. $400 fine.

Good.

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Anonymous wrote:They don’t do this to you in MD or VA. Just sayin’.

MD and VA have real live traffic cops handing out tickets. People who complain about camera tickets in DC are the biggest whiners on Earth. There's no jurisdiction where traffic laws go completely unenforced, nor should there be.

That is the biggest waste of time. They should just install cameras.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I have a license plate cover.

Our family member just got pulled over in DC for having a plate cover. $400 fine.

This is a lie.