Anti-racist training for parent groups and teachers

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Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

This. UMC black families flee DC schools faster than UMC white parents. They do not want their black children treated the way kids are treated in DCPS. Low expectations all around. Reducing the achievement gap by lowering the ceiling.

More like they don't want their kids being friends with LMC black students, because they're afraid those kids will drag them down.

We've stayed in DCPS and my kids are in high school now. They both went to upper NW ES and Deal. But I had to push and remind and intervene all throughout ES to make sure my kids were treated as equals to their peers and held to same expectations. They made it out of ES before this current cycle of training and indoctrination swept through schools but guidance counselors and well meaning know-it-alls kept trying to pull my DD into black girl empowerment pull-outs which left her confused and annoyed. It took persistence and reminders before they finally left her alone. We're a pro public schools family so I am glad that we were able to keep our kids in public schools.

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Anonymous wrote:+1. Over-the-top time and resource wasting training.

Teachers should focus on teaching math, writing, reading, social studies etc. and students on learning. I say this as a liberal and a Democrat.

This.

Ok? And please tell them what do do with students who throw furniture and hit others? Jail? Should we put 3rd graders in jail now?
You're so tone deaf. This is the reason training is needed because you think everyone benefits from privilege's and I'm not talking about white privilege. The privilege of having some money, no significant trauma, emotional delays, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:I have come to the conclusion that anti-racist training just encourages, like here, racism and misogyny all around. It perpetuates sexist and racist stereotypes and tropes. It does not encourage true dialogue, introspection, intersectionality among any individual, group, or demographic. Slavery is the original sin of this country, and racism, among other isms, remains, injures, and kills - but these inorganic efforts are as facile as the "consciousness-raising" activities of our parents. People calcify their convictions. Better to spend time and money integrating schools, workplaces, and neighborhoods.

That's some deep sh*t...I guess. Who really knows since much of it is nothing but woke buzzwords and academic phony baloney.

Here's a stripped down effort:

Racism is real and alive and makes being black in America hard. It needs to be addressed. Efforts to address systemic racism are undermined when (possibly) well meaning SJWs pick silly issues that are not truly about race as their lead in to address issues of real, persistent and malignant racism. Being rude or an asshole to a black parent or kid isn't necessarily racist; sometimes it's just being rude or inconsiderate and being an asshole. Disagreeing with a choice or action made by a black person doesn't necessarily make you, or your action, racist. Black people don't want racist assholes calling us names anymore than we want white SJW agreeing with everything we say and treating us like fragile objects in order to prove they are "allies". This type of "Lunchable" effort does nothing to move the ball forward. White people who are inclined towards racist thoughts or actions (intentional or otherwise) will dig in deeper on seeing this crap and use it as evidence that the black struggle and racism are invented. Black people who use their blackness as a defense for shitty choices or actions (see, morbidly obese children) will see this as a license to perpetuate their behavior. Well meaning people in the middle who might otherwise engage in productive discussions will throw up their hands and not know WTF to do or say because the oxygen in the room is consumed by this garbage. And (white) people who are still grappling with whether and to what degree racism and the black experience informs their world get one more data point that minimizes the real issues facing black people in America.

Volunteers in classrooms shouldn't be assholes to anyone or make kids feel bad or give parenting advice to kids to communicate to their parents. There are real battles to fight; choose better ones.

PP post illustrates the point - calcification - name-calling for cheap kicks, etc.

Pray tell, professor. Where did I call anyone a name?

This isn't academic or "for kicks" for me and mine - it is life in American every damn day. For the high minded white folk with masters degrees (yeah, I am assuming that's you) this is some post-grad, double speak nonsense that interests you...today.

You need to go back to your grad school and request a refund because you are misusing the word "calcification". Calcification of ideas or thoughts or beliefs doesn't have anything to do with name calling. And it isn't necessarily inherently bad. The concepts of calcification and name calling are not necessarily related or correlated. John Lewis's beliefs were calcified. So were MLKs and Ghandi's and Mandela's. It means to have absolute conviction in your belief to the point of hardening. I am calcified in my belief that slavery was the original sin. That there remains in America systemic racism that impacts the daily life of black people. That we have a lot of work to do and serious issues and conversations to have. And that confusing stupidity or rudeness or just plain being an asshole to kids does not remotely rise to the level of seriousness of addressing systemic racism in America.

(And here comes the "why do you think I'm white?" Cause as usual, SJW mommies who get called out for their silliness always turn out to be black, or have black husbands, or kids, or cats, or dogs.)

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The point is you don’t have to denigrate people to make a point. It only makes you look sexist and rude. I don’t need your good opinion or validation of my advanced degrees or vocabulary- just like you don’t need mine. I started with slavery is this original sin - there are obviously others - that need to be reckoned with. I don’t know what is like to be Black, just like you don’t what it is like to be a woman or an immigrant from a culture you aren’t privy to who speaks a language you are illiterate it. My point only is that anti-racist training has devolved from good intentions to meaningless bullet points with bigoted stereotypes baked in for good measure and rather than doing these anti-racism exercises we should work on more meaningful structural reforms legally and economically to desegregate. Or we can peddle sexism and snipe at each other on anonymous forums - that does feel like a performative exercise in bile-unloading.

I don't object to degrees (I have several!) But if you are going to wield those degrees and the attendant large vocabulary I would respectfully request you use them properly. Telling you that you don't understand what "calcify" means isn't sexist. I would no more hesitate to call out a woman in this situation than I would a man; the sex is irrelevant. The word has a meaning and it isn't what you think it means; you misused the word and implied a negative connotation where one does not exist. When called out for it you claim...sexism? Misogyny? Anti-immigrant sentiment?

Do you think I should go easy on you because you are a woman? That's the same fragile black person bullshit to which I so strenuously object. If you are gonna try and throw your Master's thesis bullshit around in an effort to seem knowledgeable you better be prepared to be called out for gross negligence of the English language.

I will bookend this by noting the grand irony that, in the end, you've done precisely what I took issue with at the start. You have alleged sexism and English language nativism and anti-immigrant sexism in response to someone calling out your behavior and actions. You may think me rude. You may think me indelicate. But claiming sexism or anti-immigrant bias is the same level of bullshit defense as a black mother claiming making her kid morbidly obese is a cultural choice that dare not be questioned.

I am really sorry that someone made you feel small and insignificant and poor-spoken such you get off on mansplaining (and apparently not checking) the dictionary. That gets us exactly no place as a society. But yes, we all need to own our behavior - and you do seem to have some deep issues with women that you need to work through. Good luck.

We found another word you don't understand! "Mansplaining"! It doesn't mean correcting a person who happens to be a woman who grossly misuses a word and it doesn't mean explaining something to someone when you know significantly more about the topic than they do (racism, faux racism, etc.) Mansplaining is when a man a man condescendingly explains a topic to a woman about which he knows little and definitely less than the woman. You've coopted and attempted to weaponize the concept such that you get to throw garbage anywhere you want and anyone who corrects you or calls you out is then mansplaining.

Women face a lot of bullshit and in the world. When you seek to avoid accountability for your words and actions by deploying unfounded accusations of sexism you undermine the legitimate efforts of women facing actual misogyny and sexism. You are basically a black person defending their criminality by accusing the black prosecutor of being an Uncle Tom.

[Anonymous]

How about we just start smacking the dog poo out of white people when we feel the least bit offended. I mean, we used to be hung from trees just for looking at a Karen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sort of a spin-off. Interesting story from Janney about anti-racism.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dc-preschoolers-told-to-reject-colorblindness-in-anti-racism-fight-club/ar-AAWQE8R

Anti-racism fight club for preschoolers? That's crazy and totally age-inappropriate. I have a right as a parent to decide how and when to teach my children about Chuck Palahniuk.

Can anyone with kids at Janney chime in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sort of a spin-off. Interesting story from Janney about anti-racism.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dc-preschoolers-told-to-reject-colorblindness-in-anti-racism-fight-club/ar-AAWQE8R

Anti-racism fight club for preschoolers? That's crazy and totally age-inappropriate. I have a right as a parent to decide how and when to teach my children about Chuck Palahniuk.

Can anyone with kids at Janney chime in?

It happened. The "fistbook" asked children to identify and write down members of their family that might be racist, and then submit it to the school. It also used terms like "throat punch" and "curb stomp" which absolutely boggles the mind that it crossed an administrators desk without getting pulled.

Oh, and Doyin passed out his personal phone number to children if they "ever wanted to talk more about racism."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sort of a spin-off. Interesting story from Janney about anti-racism.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dc-preschoolers-told-to-reject-colorblindness-in-anti-racism-fight-club/ar-AAWQE8R

Anti-racism fight club for preschoolers? That's crazy and totally age-inappropriate. I have a right as a parent to decide how and when to teach my children about Chuck Palahniuk.

Can anyone with kids at Janney chime in?

It happened. The "fistbook" asked children to identify and write down members of their family that might be racist, and then submit it to the school. It also used terms like "throat punch" and "curb stomp" which absolutely boggles the mind that it crossed an administrators desk without getting pulled.

Oh, and Doyin passed out his personal phone number to children if they "ever wanted to talk more about racism."

That is super creepy. What?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sort of a spin-off. Interesting story from Janney about anti-racism.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dc-preschoolers-told-to-reject-colorblindness-in-anti-racism-fight-club/ar-AAWQE8R

Anti-racism fight club for preschoolers? That's crazy and totally age-inappropriate. I have a right as a parent to decide how and when to teach my children about Chuck Palahniuk.

Can anyone with kids at Janney chime in?

It happened. The "fistbook" asked children to identify and write down members of their family that might be racist, and then submit it to the school. It also used terms like "throat punch" and "curb stomp" which absolutely boggles the mind that it crossed an administrators desk without getting pulled.

Oh, and Doyin passed out his personal phone number to children if they "ever wanted to talk more about racism."

That is super creepy. What?!

There was no PRE-K and no mention of throat punching or curb stomping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sort of a spin-off. Interesting story from Janney about anti-racism.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dc-preschoolers-told-to-reject-colorblindness-in-anti-racism-fight-club/ar-AAWQE8R

Anti-racism fight club for preschoolers? That's crazy and totally age-inappropriate. I have a right as a parent to decide how and when to teach my children about Chuck Palahniuk.

Can anyone with kids at Janney chime in?

It happened. The "fistbook" asked children to identify and write down members of their family that might be racist, and then submit it to the school. It also used terms like "throat punch" and "curb stomp" which absolutely boggles the mind that it crossed an administrators desk without getting pulled.

Oh, and Doyin passed out his personal phone number to children if they "ever wanted to talk more about racism."

Was there any pushback/followup/discussion from the school and community?

[Anonymous]

My private school DEI coordinator sent out a 'worksheet' to every staff member a few years ago asking for our personal anti-racist action plan. It felt really bizarre and unprofessional as the word personal means , you know, personal. This Janney document with language such as "you are not paying enough attention" reminds me of that--getting deeply into people's headspace in a 'judgy/you must atone' kind of way seems like it should be done voluntarily by an individual with someone or a group of their choosing to have a benefit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I have come to the conclusion that anti-racist training just encourages, like here, racism and misogyny all around. It perpetuates sexist and racist stereotypes and tropes. It does not encourage true dialogue, introspection, intersectionality among any individual, group, or demographic. Slavery is the original sin of this country, and racism, among other isms, remains, injures, and kills - but these inorganic efforts are as facile as the "consciousness-raising" activities of our parents. People calcify their convictions. Better to spend time and money integrating schools, workplaces, and neighborhoods.

That's some deep sh*t...I guess. Who really knows since much of it is nothing but woke buzzwords and academic phony baloney.

Here's a stripped down effort:

Racism is real and alive and makes being black in America hard. It needs to be addressed. Efforts to address systemic racism are undermined when (possibly) well meaning SJWs pick silly issues that are not truly about race as their lead in to address issues of real, persistent and malignant racism. Being rude or an asshole to a black parent or kid isn't necessarily racist; sometimes it's just being rude or inconsiderate and being an asshole. Disagreeing with a choice or action made by a black person doesn't necessarily make you, or your action, racist. Black people don't want racist assholes calling us names anymore than we want white SJW agreeing with everything we say and treating us like fragile objects in order to prove they are "allies". This type of "Lunchable" effort does nothing to move the ball forward. White people who are inclined towards racist thoughts or actions (intentional or otherwise) will dig in deeper on seeing this crap and use it as evidence that the black struggle and racism are invented. Black people who use their blackness as a defense for shitty choices or actions (see, morbidly obese children) will see this as a license to perpetuate their behavior. Well meaning people in the middle who might otherwise engage in productive discussions will throw up their hands and not know WTF to do or say because the oxygen in the room is consumed by this garbage. And (white) people who are still grappling with whether and to what degree racism and the black experience informs their world get one more data point that minimizes the real issues facing black people in America.

Volunteers in classrooms shouldn't be assholes to anyone or make kids feel bad or give parenting advice to kids to communicate to their parents. There are real battles to fight; choose better ones.

PP post illustrates the point - calcification - name-calling for cheap kicks, etc.

Pray tell, professor. Where did I call anyone a name?

This isn't academic or "for kicks" for me and mine - it is life in American every damn day. For the high minded white folk with masters degrees (yeah, I am assuming that's you) this is some post-grad, double speak nonsense that interests you...today.

You need to go back to your grad school and request a refund because you are misusing the word "calcification". Calcification of ideas or thoughts or beliefs doesn't have anything to do with name calling. And it isn't necessarily inherently bad. The concepts of calcification and name calling are not necessarily related or correlated. John Lewis's beliefs were calcified. So were MLKs and Ghandi's and Mandela's. It means to have absolute conviction in your belief to the point of hardening. I am calcified in my belief that slavery was the original sin. That there remains in America systemic racism that impacts the daily life of black people. That we have a lot of work to do and serious issues and conversations to have. And that confusing stupidity or rudeness or just plain being an asshole to kids does not remotely rise to the level of seriousness of addressing systemic racism in America.

(And here comes the "why do you think I'm white?" Cause as usual, SJW mommies who get called out for their silliness always turn out to be black, or have black husbands, or kids, or cats, or dogs.)

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The point is you don’t have to denigrate people to make a point. It only makes you look sexist and rude. I don’t need your good opinion or validation of my advanced degrees or vocabulary- just like you don’t need mine. I started with slavery is this original sin - there are obviously others - that need to be reckoned with. I don’t know what is like to be Black, just like you don’t what it is like to be a woman or an immigrant from a culture you aren’t privy to who speaks a language you are illiterate it. My point only is that anti-racist training has devolved from good intentions to meaningless bullet points with bigoted stereotypes baked in for good measure and rather than doing these anti-racism exercises we should work on more meaningful structural reforms legally and economically to desegregate. Or we can peddle sexism and snipe at each other on anonymous forums - that does feel like a performative exercise in bile-unloading.

I don't object to degrees (I have several!) But if you are going to wield those degrees and the attendant large vocabulary I would respectfully request you use them properly. Telling you that you don't understand what "calcify" means isn't sexist. I would no more hesitate to call out a woman in this situation than I would a man; the sex is irrelevant. The word has a meaning and it isn't what you think it means; you misused the word and implied a negative connotation where one does not exist. When called out for it you claim...sexism? Misogyny? Anti-immigrant sentiment?

Do you think I should go easy on you because you are a woman? That's the same fragile black person bullshit to which I so strenuously object. If you are gonna try and throw your Master's thesis bullshit around in an effort to seem knowledgeable you better be prepared to be called out for gross negligence of the English language.

I will bookend this by noting the grand irony that, in the end, you've done precisely what I took issue with at the start. You have alleged sexism and English language nativism and anti-immigrant sexism in response to someone calling out your behavior and actions. You may think me rude. You may think me indelicate. But claiming sexism or anti-immigrant bias is the same level of bullshit defense as a black mother claiming making her kid morbidly obese is a cultural choice that dare not be questioned.

NP. I believe your sexism was in the derogatory use of “mommies.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sort of a spin-off. Interesting story from Janney about anti-racism.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dc-preschoolers-told-to-reject-colorblindness-in-anti-racism-fight-club/ar-AAWQE8R

Anti-racism fight club for preschoolers? That's crazy and totally age-inappropriate. I have a right as a parent to decide how and when to teach my children about Chuck Palahniuk.

Can anyone with kids at Janney chime in?

It happened. The "fistbook" asked children to identify and write down members of their family that might be racist, and then submit it to the school. It also used terms like "throat punch" and "curb stomp" which absolutely boggles the mind that it crossed an administrators desk without getting pulled.

Oh, and Doyin passed out his personal phone number to children if they "ever wanted to talk more about racism."

That is super creepy. What?!

There was no PRE-K and no mention of throat punching or curb stomping.

Don't know if it went to PRE-K, but it went to K. And you are wrong on the aforementioned terms. They were there, I read it with my own eyes when it was circulated.