Anti-racist training for parent groups and teachers

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Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Have you tried to correct the loud black people or do you just mock the liberal white people?

Once you all figure this out, let me know where I can be an ally.

You have it all figured out! In the battle for equitable and quality education where black and brown kids are victims of lowered expectations the true victims here are...white people who are made uncomfortable. Please, white lady, tell us how we can advocate for our children and express concern in a manner that makes YOU most comfortable, because in the end making white women feel comfortable is what maters most.

Rambling PP here - they’re literally asking what you would like them to do to help. They didn’t express any discomfort. I understand the tendency to want to rage at the world, especially on an anonymous forum, but there are plenty of us here who do equity work bc we don’t believe that any demo should have to face lowered expectations or racism. So when we ask what we can do to help, we do so because this is your lived experience and we don’t want to speak for you.

Here's a tip for you my white social justice warrior. Don't tell a black man he's "angry" or "raging at the world" if you want to start a productive conversation. It works about as well as telling a woman who shows conviction, concern or anger that she's "being emotional".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Have you tried to correct the loud black people or do you just mock the liberal white people?

Once you all figure this out, let me know where I can be an ally.

You have it all figured out! In the battle for equitable and quality education where black and brown kids are victims of lowered expectations the true victims here are...white people who are made uncomfortable. Please, white lady, tell us how we can advocate for our children and express concern in a manner that makes YOU most comfortable, because in the end making white women feel comfortable is what maters most.

Rambling PP here - they’re literally asking what you would like them to do to help. They didn’t express any discomfort. I understand the tendency to want to rage at the world, especially on an anonymous forum, but there are plenty of us here who do equity work bc we don’t believe that any demo should have to face lowered expectations or racism. So when we ask what we can do to help, we do so because this is your lived experience and we don’t want to speak for you.

Here's a tip for you my white social justice warrior. Don't tell a black man he's "angry" or "raging at the world" if you want to start a productive conversation. It works about as well as telling a woman who shows conviction, concern or anger that she's "being emotional".

Okay talk to me then. What do you want from me. No more BS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m just bemused at the idea that DCUMs anti-fat psychopaths think they would be anything other than completely cruel to a child when talking about how awful their lunch is. I mean we all know how that conversation would go. The child would learn nothing except that some white busybody volunteer is a jerk.

There is literally no world in which any DCUM posters railing about lunchables would actually make a positive impact in a child. Frankly I think they should mostly be kept away from children in general given their DCUM behavior.

You miss the point. First, only the article seemed to think lunchables were objectively unhealthy. They are the example here because the article made them so, not because people on DCUM decided lunchables were the greatest threat to children since gun violence. The one thing everyone who has chimed in agrees on is that it is not appropriate for a volunteer to be commenting on or criticizing a kid's lunch in front of that child. Literally no one has defended that practice.

What set some of the white people (and also some of us black people) off is the idea that doing so would be racist because it would fail to take into consideration that the black mother who packed an unhealthy lunch and is making their kid fat and unhealthy is doing so because in the black community giving a kid shitty, unhealthy food and making them morbidly obese is a cultural thing. It isn't. It is a bullshit defense and uses white guilt and offensive racial stereotypes as a shield against bad parenting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Who? Cause it’s not black teachers. We have constantly been fighting to hold parents accountable and the school system. I have had colleagues who have been hit by children on purpose but they receive no discipline. I am NOT saying suspension is the only way but we have noticed that we want to handle black children in a way that gives those children and parents no accountability. I understand trauma, low SES, etc. are HUGE, however we don’t provide therapy and job growth opportunities at the school level. The city seems to think a sprinkle of low income housing and giving them a little money is enough. It’s not.

They have to be taught their child’s education is paramount. Not wearing Jordan’s. And before I get hate, yes duh not all low black SES families are like this. That’s absurd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

No, people need to assume that packing a child's lunch, or choosing food that is in a child's lunch is a parental responsibility, and that telling a child that their parent did a poor job of something, and to go back and tell their parent to do it differently is offensive.

I don’t think anyone said she needs to do it differently, or he needs to do it differently, but I do think kids should be aware of unhealthy choices. Do you think kids should not be aware of unhealthy choices? Much more helpful might be providing the child, and all kids in the class, with information about low-cost nutritious foods. But, I dream, I know.

NP.
How, specifically, do you propose that a white volunteer lunch lady tell a black child at lunch that the lunch that her mother packed for her is an “unhealthy” choice? And please also explain just how the white volunteer lunch lady delivers the message that it is so impactful that the child suddenly becomes “aware of unhealthy choices” such that the child changes not just her own, but her mother’s behavior.

Please be specific.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m just bemused at the idea that DCUMs anti-fat psychopaths think they would be anything other than completely cruel to a child when talking about how awful their lunch is. I mean we all know how that conversation would go. The child would learn nothing except that some white busybody volunteer is a jerk.

There is literally no world in which any DCUM posters railing about lunchables would actually make a positive impact in a child. Frankly I think they should mostly be kept away from children in general given their DCUM behavior.

You miss the point. First, only the article seemed to think lunchables were objectively unhealthy. They are the example here because the article made them so, not because people on DCUM decided lunchables were the greatest threat to children since gun violence. The one thing everyone who has chimed in agrees on is that it is not appropriate for a volunteer to be commenting on or criticizing a kid's lunch in front of that child. Literally no one has defended that practice.

What set some of the white people (and also some of us black people) off is the idea that doing so would be racist because it would fail to take into consideration that the black mother who packed an unhealthy lunch and is making their kid fat and unhealthy is doing so because in the black community giving a kid shitty, unhealthy food and making them morbidly obese is a cultural thing. It isn't. It is a bullshit defense and uses white guilt and offensive racial stereotypes as a shield against bad parenting.

If that volunteer would be much more likely to attack the black child who brought in the lunchables than the white child, then the volunteer is not only a jerk, she is a racist jerk. And candidly, having seen a whole bunch of parent volunteers, I don’t think that’s out of the range of possibility, which is what this training is trying to address.

Now I think racists aren’t changed by anti-racist training, unfortunately. As someone who has done extensive volunteering, I sometimes think the answer is that volunteers should not be allowed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Who? Cause it’s not black teachers. We have constantly been fighting to hold parents accountable and the school system. I have had colleagues who have been hit by children on purpose but they receive no discipline. I am NOT saying suspension is the only way but we have noticed that we want to handle black children in a way that gives those children and parents no accountability. I understand trauma, low SES, etc. are HUGE, however we don’t provide therapy and job growth opportunities at the school level. The city seems to think a sprinkle of low income housing and giving them a little money is enough. It’s not.

They have to be taught their child’s education is paramount. Not wearing Jordan’s. And before I get hate, yes duh not all low black SES families are like this. That’s absurd.

All "black teachers" are not the same anymore than the "black community" is all the same. It would be utter hypocrisy for me not to make that point after unloading on white people for saying all black people are the same. But on the whole my experience with black teachers and administrators is in line with what you have said.

That doesn't mean you don't get smacked for trying to do your job and lift up the black children. I don't know any black teachers who haven't been called "uncle Tom" or "sellout" or a "white puppets" for trying to discipline a black child or hold them to account or demand more from them. That's a defense mechanism designed to deflect accountability for a kid's shitty behavior and shitty parenting. I just think that line of race baiting is less apt to work with black teachers because lord knows they deal with much worse as blacks in America. But for white teachers more often than not it works, especially with the white social justice warriors being "allies" who lately seem to have been sold on the idea that if a black person takes offense to something a white person did then clearly it was offensive. Oddly I feel sorry for some of these white people (lots on DCUM) who are legitimately confused. Somewhere along the way some black folk convinced them that being an "ally" means ceasing common sense and allowing any and all behavior and excuse to work as long as it is proffered by a black face. It meant they needed to nod in affirmation when crazy black people claimed that violent criminals were the true victims, not the people they victimized (which, notwithstanding the reporting on this, more often than not are other black people).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Have you tried to correct the loud black people or do you just mock the liberal white people?

Once you all figure this out, let me know where I can be an ally.

You have it all figured out! In the battle for equitable and quality education where black and brown kids are victims of lowered expectations the true victims here are...white people who are made uncomfortable. Please, white lady, tell us how we can advocate for our children and express concern in a manner that makes YOU most comfortable, because in the end making white women feel comfortable is what maters most.

No, I don’t and I didn’t say I did. But if I did and I said so, you would say I was centering my whiteness and silencing those with lived experience. So I am happy to support you in advocating for your children in (almost) whatever form works for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Who? Cause it’s not black teachers. We have constantly been fighting to hold parents accountable and the school system. I have had colleagues who have been hit by children on purpose but they receive no discipline. I am NOT saying suspension is the only way but we have noticed that we want to handle black children in a way that gives those children and parents no accountability. I understand trauma, low SES, etc. are HUGE, however we don’t provide therapy and job growth opportunities at the school level. The city seems to think a sprinkle of low income housing and giving them a little money is enough. It’s not.

They have to be taught their child’s education is paramount. Not wearing Jordan’s. And before I get hate, yes duh not all low black SES families are like this. That’s absurd.

All "black teachers" are not the same anymore than the "black community" is all the same. It would be utter hypocrisy for me not to make that point after unloading on white people for saying all black people are the same. But on the whole my experience with black teachers and administrators is in line with what you have said.

That doesn't mean you don't get smacked for trying to do your job and lift up the black children. I don't know any black teachers who haven't been called "uncle Tom" or "sellout" or a "white puppets" for trying to discipline a black child or hold them to account or demand more from them. That's a defense mechanism designed to deflect accountability for a kid's shitty behavior and shitty parenting. I just think that line of race baiting is less apt to work with black teachers because lord knows they deal with much worse as blacks in America. But for white teachers more often than not it works, especially with the white social justice warriors being "allies" who lately seem to have been sold on the idea that if a black person takes offense to something a white person did then clearly it was offensive. Oddly I feel sorry for some of these white people (lots on DCUM) who are legitimately confused. Somewhere along the way some black folk convinced them that being an "ally" means ceasing common sense and allowing any and all behavior and excuse to work as long as it is proffered by a black face. It meant they needed to nod in affirmation when crazy black people claimed that violent criminals were the true victims, not the people they victimized (which, notwithstanding the reporting on this, more often than not are other black people).

You are a great writer and I know exactly what you are talking about.

Honestly I think one of the real issues is that a lot of white liberals aren’t actually friends with any black people or don’t have any black people in their family. So they are basically gullible. They mean well, but they don’t have friends who would tell them “Don’t be an idiot.”

[Anonymous]

Black teachers posting, keep doing what you are doing. Ignore everyone else, black folks not wanting to take accountability and white SJW who have no clue what they were talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Have you tried to correct the loud black people or do you just mock the liberal white people?

Once you all figure this out, let me know where I can be an ally.

You have it all figured out! In the battle for equitable and quality education where black and brown kids are victims of lowered expectations the true victims here are...white people who are made uncomfortable. Please, white lady, tell us how we can advocate for our children and express concern in a manner that makes YOU most comfortable, because in the end making white women feel comfortable is what maters most.

No, I don’t and I didn’t say I did. But if I did and I said so, you would say I was centering my whiteness and silencing those with lived experience. So I am happy to support you in advocating for your children in (almost) whatever form works for you.

1. Not a chance in hell I would use either one of those phrases. If you think that you must not have read anything I wrote today. Sounds like your experience with black folks is the type that do the training in that article. Time to get some black friends who will speak openly and honestly and let you express your true feelings and then tell you what they think - and then you open a bottle of wine and move on.
2. No!!!! Do not support just anything a black person says as long as they couch it in their "lived experience". Obese black kids are not obese because of how their parents show love. Or because they are single parents. I am not asking you to shame them, but neither should you give them a pass, or, worse, embrace it as "blackness" or their "lived experience". Black folks who commit violent crimes don't get a pass because they are black or poor or uneducated. They terrorize their own communities too - save the liberal guilt and energy for the victims or at-risk people who haven't yet committed violent crimes. Use the brain god gave you. You cannot truly understand the black experience in America - I am not suggesting you can. But just because you don't know what it is like to be black doesn't mean common sense falls by the wayside.

My advice to my white friends is usually this. If you are not a racist then why do you give a shit if someone calls you that? If it happens all the time and comes from people you respect then maybe do some reflection and soul searching. But if you are going to enter fraught subjects like education or violence or politics then getting called names is part of participating. If someone calling you a name is enough to back you off then you didn't have conviction in your position in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Who? Cause it’s not black teachers. We have constantly been fighting to hold parents accountable and the school system. I have had colleagues who have been hit by children on purpose but they receive no discipline. I am NOT saying suspension is the only way but we have noticed that we want to handle black children in a way that gives those children and parents no accountability. I understand trauma, low SES, etc. are HUGE, however we don’t provide therapy and job growth opportunities at the school level. The city seems to think a sprinkle of low income housing and giving them a little money is enough. It’s not.

They have to be taught their child’s education is paramount. Not wearing Jordan’s. And before I get hate, yes duh not all low black SES families are like this. That’s absurd.

All "black teachers" are not the same anymore than the "black community" is all the same. It would be utter hypocrisy for me not to make that point after unloading on white people for saying all black people are the same. But on the whole my experience with black teachers and administrators is in line with what you have said.

That doesn't mean you don't get smacked for trying to do your job and lift up the black children. I don't know any black teachers who haven't been called "uncle Tom" or "sellout" or a "white puppets" for trying to discipline a black child or hold them to account or demand more from them. That's a defense mechanism designed to deflect accountability for a kid's shitty behavior and shitty parenting. I just think that line of race baiting is less apt to work with black teachers because lord knows they deal with much worse as blacks in America. But for white teachers more often than not it works, especially with the white social justice warriors being "allies" who lately seem to have been sold on the idea that if a black person takes offense to something a white person did then clearly it was offensive. Oddly I feel sorry for some of these white people (lots on DCUM) who are legitimately confused. Somewhere along the way some black folk convinced them that being an "ally" means ceasing common sense and allowing any and all behavior and excuse to work as long as it is proffered by a black face. It meant they needed to nod in affirmation when crazy black people claimed that violent criminals were the true victims, not the people they victimized (which, notwithstanding the reporting on this, more often than not are other black people).

You are a great writer and I know exactly what you are talking about.

Honestly I think one of the real issues is that a lot of white liberals aren’t actually friends with any black people or don’t have any black people in their family. So they are basically gullible. They mean well, but they don’t have friends who would tell them “Don’t be an idiot.”

Preach! (Or black friends with whom they can disagree just like they can with all their white friends, without those black people throwing "lived experience" and "racist" in their faces to silence them into submission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do white liberals, who live in liberal cities surrounded by other liberals, like to pretend they are in daily battle with the KKK?

Er, maybe stereotype less and seek to understand more?

Er, maybe be less of a stereotype?

Heck, even the television show Atlanta joked about this. It's a widely held stereotype.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Have you tried to correct the loud black people or do you just mock the liberal white people?

Once you all figure this out, let me know where I can be an ally.

You have it all figured out! In the battle for equitable and quality education where black and brown kids are victims of lowered expectations the true victims here are...white people who are made uncomfortable. Please, white lady, tell us how we can advocate for our children and express concern in a manner that makes YOU most comfortable, because in the end making white women feel comfortable is what maters most.

No, I don’t and I didn’t say I did. But if I did and I said so, you would say I was centering my whiteness and silencing those with lived experience. So I am happy to support you in advocating for your children in (almost) whatever form works for you.

1. Not a chance in hell I would use either one of those phrases. If you think that you must not have read anything I wrote today. Sounds like your experience with black folks is the type that do the training in that article. Time to get some black friends who will speak openly and honestly and let you express your true feelings and then tell you what they think - and then you open a bottle of wine and move on.
2. No!!!! Do not support just anything a black person says as long as they couch it in their "lived experience". Obese black kids are not obese because of how their parents show love. Or because they are single parents. I am not asking you to shame them, but neither should you give them a pass, or, worse, embrace it as "blackness" or their "lived experience". Black folks who commit violent crimes don't get a pass because they are black or poor or uneducated. They terrorize their own communities too - save the liberal guilt and energy for the victims or at-risk people who haven't yet committed violent crimes. Use the brain god gave you. You cannot truly understand the black experience in America - I am not suggesting you can. But just because you don't know what it is like to be black doesn't mean common sense falls by the wayside.

My advice to my white friends is usually this. If you are not a racist then why do you give a shit if someone calls you that? If it happens all the time and comes from people you respect then maybe do some reflection and soul searching. But if you are going to enter fraught subjects like education or violence or politics then getting called names is part of participating. If someone calling you a name is enough to back you off then you didn't have conviction in your position in the first place.

So, what’s the next step?

[Anonymous]

The problem started in 1619.