Anti-racist training for parent groups and teachers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do white liberals, who live in liberal cities surrounded by other liberals, like to pretend they are in daily battle with the KKK?

Er, maybe stereotype less and seek to understand more?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

No, people need to assume that packing a child's lunch, or choosing food that is in a child's lunch is a parental responsibility, and that telling a child that their parent did a poor job of something, and to go back and tell their parent to do it differently is offensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Have you tried to correct the loud black people or do you just mock the liberal white people?

Once you all figure this out, let me know where I can be an ally.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Well no angry person. I’m not black, but I’m a teacher in a EOTR ES who doesn’t appreciate you speaking for all educators. I don’t know how you’ve become so misinformed and jaded toward equity but it’s not at all about lowering expectations for low income kids, which in DCPS does mostly correlate to black children. Things such as mastery based learning, UDL, differentiated instruction, SEL and other new trends in urban education aren’t about lowering the bar or infusing negative stereotypes about black children.

I do agree that the TFA generation was indoctrinated with a white martyrdom complex that is going to take time to shatter, especially as they have gotten a stranglehold on power both locally in DCPS and also at the federal levels. Because, you know, they couldn’t actually teach and leveraged their degrees + “experience” into jobs they aren’t remotely qualified for. So as I’ve typed this out I guess I’m realizing that a lot of what you said is true, especially since those are the people that control messaging and higher level policy decisions.

Feel like I lost my point along the way and I guess I just want to know what I can do to be a better advocate and ally

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Have you tried to correct the loud black people or do you just mock the liberal white people?

Once you all figure this out, let me know where I can be an ally.

^thank you to this person who was able to take my ramblings into two sentences LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

No, people need to assume that packing a child's lunch, or choosing food that is in a child's lunch is a parental responsibility, and that telling a child that their parent did a poor job of something, and to go back and tell their parent to do it differently is offensive.

And people need to assume that, as always, government failed to provide adequate resources for schools, and advocates for and welcome to bring tears into classrooms, that sometimes volunteers are going to do best things. And he will sometimes over share, they will sometimes be pretty useless, table make invasive comments, some of which may be or be felt to be racist, sexist or classist, and they will sometimes just be unhelpful. But, that’s what you get. You’ll find the same things with teachers, fellow parents, fellow students and others. The idea that we are going to spend money training volunteers not to say somewhat invasive, get largely accurate, things seems crazy to me. Honestly, I think the time and money would be better spent training volunteers on how to be actually useful, or to causing teachers and administrators to identifying tasks where volunteers can make a difference without needing additional training. And don’t think for a moment that kids and other adults aren’t commenting on lunches, whether it be envy of Lunchables by other kids, disdain for Lunchables by teachers, I rolling at the Uber begin parents who question every hot dog, what have you. Training volunteers on this as a racial issue, as opposed to training people had to actually teach kids skills, seems completely unhelpful misdirect to me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

No, people need to assume that packing a child's lunch, or choosing food that is in a child's lunch is a parental responsibility, and that telling a child that their parent did a poor job of something, and to go back and tell their parent to do it differently is offensive.

I don’t think anyone said she needs to do it differently, or he needs to do it differently, but I do think kids should be aware of unhealthy choices. Do you think kids should not be aware of unhealthy choices? Much more helpful might be providing the child, and all kids in the class, with information about low-cost nutritious foods. But, I dream, I know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Have you tried to correct the loud black people or do you just mock the liberal white people?

Once you all figure this out, let me know where I can be an ally.

You have it all figured out! In the battle for equitable and quality education where black and brown kids are victims of lowered expectations the true victims here are...white people who are made uncomfortable. Please, white lady, tell us how we can advocate for our children and express concern in a manner that makes YOU most comfortable, because in the end making white women feel comfortable is what maters most.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Have you tried to correct the loud black people or do you just mock the liberal white people?

Once you all figure this out, let me know where I can be an ally.

You have it all figured out! In the battle for equitable and quality education where black and brown kids are victims of lowered expectations the true victims here are...white people who are made uncomfortable. Please, white lady, tell us how we can advocate for our children and express concern in a manner that makes YOU most comfortable, because in the end making white women feel comfortable is what maters most.

Rambling PP here - they’re literally asking what you would like them to do to help. They didn’t express any discomfort. I understand the tendency to want to rage at the world, especially on an anonymous forum, but there are plenty of us here who do equity work bc we don’t believe that any demo should have to face lowered expectations or racism. So when we ask what we can do to help, we do so because this is your lived experience and we don’t want to speak for you.

[Anonymous]

one of biggest implicit biases that i have found is an incorrect assumption that black dc families overall care less about education

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.

Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.

Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed

Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)

Well no angry person. I’m not black, but I’m a teacher in a EOTR ES who doesn’t appreciate you speaking for all educators. I don’t know how you’ve become so misinformed and jaded toward equity but it’s not at all about lowering expectations for low income kids, which in DCPS does mostly correlate to black children. Things such as mastery based learning, UDL, differentiated instruction, SEL and other new trends in urban education aren’t about lowering the bar or infusing negative stereotypes about black children.

I do agree that the TFA generation was indoctrinated with a white martyrdom complex that is going to take time to shatter, especially as they have gotten a stranglehold on power both locally in DCPS and also at the federal levels. Because, you know, they couldn’t actually teach and leveraged their degrees + “experience” into jobs they aren’t remotely qualified for. So as I’ve typed this out I guess I’m realizing that a lot of what you said is true, especially since those are the people that control messaging and higher level policy decisions.

Feel like I lost my point along the way and I guess I just want to know what I can do to be a better advocate and ally

Equity doesn't mean just getting kids access to schools and resources and then patting yourselves on the back that they entered the building without regard to outcome. Equity doesn't mean letting a black boy act a fool in class because correcting his behavior offends some sense of liberal guilt. (Neither should a black boy be treated more harshly than a white counterpart, obviously). Equity doesn't mean worrying about getting very poorly performing kids to improve and ignoring the need for academic excellence for all kids (including black ones). The "black community" isn't a monolithic beast that speaks with one voice anymore than Trump supporters in white trash America are the same as the white folks in NYC who support AOC. The loudmouth black mother in your class who tells you that it is racist to demand her kid do his homework and do it well is full of shit and doesn't speak for "black people".

A moment ago someone actually replied with an exasperated tone to basically say, "I don't understand why "black people" won't just tell us what they want. It is confusing and upsetting and I am going to check out until "black people" tell us what they want." And of course her white friend replied to say what a great job she'd done demanding black people come to a decision.

[Anonymous]

I’m just bemused at the idea that DCUMs anti-fat psychopaths think they would be anything other than completely cruel to a child when talking about how awful their lunch is. I mean we all know how that conversation would go. The child would learn nothing except that some white busybody volunteer is a jerk.

There is literally no world in which any DCUM posters railing about lunchables would actually make a positive impact in a child. Frankly I think they should mostly be kept away from children in general given their DCUM behavior.