Anti-racist training for parent groups and teachers

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Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.


Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.


Imagine waking up this wrong and angry. Go back to bed


Yes, I am angry. Angry that a small bunch of loud black people have decided that lowered expectations somehow means "equity" and that they've guilted a bunch of white people into thinking being an ally means reinforcing negative stereotypes about my black kids. But I do so enjoy the white liberal masses on DCUM lecturing POC about how we need to be more sensitive to the needs of the black community.

(This is where PP will come back and say "she's black". Never fails on DCUM that anytime someone's liberal guilt or condescending white concern gets called out they miraculously turn out to be black. You'd think 90% of DCUM is POC!)


Who? Cause it’s not black teachers. We have constantly been fighting to hold parents accountable and the school system. I have had colleagues who have been hit by children on purpose but they receive no discipline. I am NOT saying suspension is the only way but we have noticed that we want to handle black children in a way that gives those children and parents no accountability. I understand trauma, low SES, etc. are HUGE, however we don’t provide therapy and job growth opportunities at the school level. The city seems to think a sprinkle of low income housing and giving them a little money is enough. It’s not.

They have to be taught their child’s education is paramount. Not wearing Jordan’s. And before I get hate, yes duh not all low black SES families are like this. That’s absurd.


All "black teachers" are not the same anymore than the "black community" is all the same. It would be utter hypocrisy for me not to make that point after unloading on white people for saying all black people are the same. But on the whole my experience with black teachers and administrators is in line with what you have said.

That doesn't mean you don't get smacked for trying to do your job and lift up the black children. I don't know any black teachers who haven't been called "uncle Tom" or "sellout" or a "white puppets" for trying to discipline a black child or hold them to account or demand more from them. That's a defense mechanism designed to deflect accountability for a kid's shitty behavior and shitty parenting. I just think that line of race baiting is less apt to work with black teachers because lord knows they deal with much worse as blacks in America. But for white teachers more often than not it works, especially with the white social justice warriors being "allies" who lately seem to have been sold on the idea that if a black person takes offense to something a white person did then clearly it was offensive. Oddly I feel sorry for some of these white people (lots on DCUM) who are legitimately confused. Somewhere along the way some black folk convinced them that being an "ally" means ceasing common sense and allowing any and all behavior and excuse to work as long as it is proffered by a black face. It meant they needed to nod in affirmation when crazy black people claimed that violent criminals were the true victims, not the people they victimized (which, notwithstanding the reporting on this, more often than not are other black people).


You are a great writer and I know exactly what you are talking about.

Honestly I think one of the real issues is that a lot of white liberals aren’t actually friends with any black people or don’t have any black people in their family. So they are basically gullible. They mean well, but they don’t have friends who would tell them “Don’t be an idiot.”



This is such bull shot, I swear CandyAss Owens is here. A
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Schools should teach all kids that lunchables are for the occasional treat only and have no nutritional value. They should teach them about nutrition in general and buying/cooking/eating healthily. Programs like FoodPrints are great and kids love them.

Volunteers shouldn’t criticize anyone’s lunch ever.

The end.
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Anonymous wrote:Schools should teach all kids that lunchables are for the occasional treat only and have no nutritional value. They should teach them about nutrition in general and buying/cooking/eating healthily. Programs like FoodPrints are great and kids love them.

Volunteers shouldn’t criticize anyone’s lunch ever.

The end.


WTF is a "treat" about lunchables. Is eating toilet water a treat too?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools should teach all kids that lunchables are for the occasional treat only and have no nutritional value. They should teach them about nutrition in general and buying/cooking/eating healthily. Programs like FoodPrints are great and kids love them.

Volunteers shouldn’t criticize anyone’s lunch ever.

The end.


WTF is a "treat" about lunchables. Is eating toilet water a treat too?


They’re crackers and cheese. Not exactly nutritional but NBD.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools should teach all kids that lunchables are for the occasional treat only and have no nutritional value. They should teach them about nutrition in general and buying/cooking/eating healthily. Programs like FoodPrints are great and kids love them.

Volunteers shouldn’t criticize anyone’s lunch ever.

The end.


WTF is a "treat" about lunchables. Is eating toilet water a treat too?


They’re crackers and cheese. Not exactly nutritional but NBD.


+1. It helps no one to demonize junk food. Lunchables are like McDonalds. Fine to have as a once in awhile thing. Bad to have frequently.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools should teach all kids that lunchables are for the occasional treat only and have no nutritional value. They should teach them about nutrition in general and buying/cooking/eating healthily. Programs like FoodPrints are great and kids love them.

Volunteers shouldn’t criticize anyone’s lunch ever.

The end.


WTF is a "treat" about lunchables. Is eating toilet water a treat too?


Hyperbolic much? Let me guess, you’d absolutely tell the kid their lunch sucks to their face?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Schools should teach all kids that lunchables are for the occasional treat only and have no nutritional value. They should teach them about nutrition in general and buying/cooking/eating healthily. Programs like FoodPrints are great and kids love them.

Volunteers shouldn’t criticize anyone’s lunch ever.

The end.


WTF is a "treat" about lunchables. Is eating toilet water a treat too?


Hyperbolic much? Let me guess, you’d absolutely tell the kid their lunch sucks to their face?



The private preschool I sent my kids wouldn’t allow lunchables. Food police are as annoying as the grammar police.
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Anonymous wrote:The problem started in 1619.


Yes, and...? That does not contribute to the discussion or offer solutions. I am arguing that lowered expectations and using race as a shield for bad parenting and choices hurts our community. Some argue that any perceived slight is a racist act. I think they are wrong but it is at least a discussion. Then here you come with the GENIUS observation that slavery was bad and created systemic issues that persist today. Seems like a pretty lazy take.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.


Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.


This. UMC black families flee DC schools faster than UMC white parents. They do not want their black children treated the way kids are treated in DCPS. Low expectations all around. Reducing the achievement gap by lowering the ceiling.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I feel like we can all agree that lunchables are disgusting.


They're the only thing my autistic son will consistently eat at lunch. But he's thin, so nobody messes with him about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.


Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.


This. UMC black families flee DC schools faster than UMC white parents. They do not want their black children treated the way kids are treated in DCPS. Low expectations all around. Reducing the achievement gap by lowering the ceiling.


More like they don't want their kids being friends with LMC black students, because they're afraid those kids will drag them down.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Culture of low expectations- assume that balck parents care most about crap food and delicate white parents. B
News flash, black parents want academic rigor and high expectations and better options for their kids.


Haven't you heard? In the new era of the woke-police, white people need to assume that all black children come from single family households (or foster care) and are incapable of advancing academically beyond wherever they are in school right now. To assume black kids (like all kids) can do better and push black kids and demand more from them (as white people and teachers would with all other kids) is apparently now racist. Oh, and black kids who are morbidly obese in ES need to be praised for their "curves" and their parents similarly praised for loving them enough to feed them food that causes diabetes and other major health concerns.

It is no wonder that the families of top performing black kids flee DCPS and HRCS before our kids internalize these limiting messages about their capabilities and worth.


This. UMC black families flee DC schools faster than UMC white parents. They do not want their black children treated the way kids are treated in DCPS. Low expectations all around. Reducing the achievement gap by lowering the ceiling.


Who are these children getting these messages from? Which schools?
Anonymous
I have come to the conclusion that anti-racist training just encourages, like here, racism and misogyny all around. It perpetuates sexist and racist stereotypes and tropes. It does not encourage true dialogue, introspection, intersectionality among any individual, group, or demographic. Slavery is the original sin of this country, and racism, among other isms, remains, injures, and kills - but these inorganic efforts are as facile as the "consciousness-raising" activities of our parents. People calcify their convictions. Better to spend time and money integrating schools, workplaces, and neighborhoods.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have come to the conclusion that anti-racist training just encourages, like here, racism and misogyny all around. It perpetuates sexist and racist stereotypes and tropes. It does not encourage true dialogue, introspection, intersectionality among any individual, group, or demographic. Slavery is the original sin of this country, and racism, among other isms, remains, injures, and kills - but these inorganic efforts are as facile as the "consciousness-raising" activities of our parents. People calcify their convictions. Better to spend time and money integrating schools, workplaces, and neighborhoods.


That's some deep sh*t...I guess. Who really knows since much of it is nothing but woke buzzwords and academic phony baloney.

Here's a stripped down effort:

Racism is real and alive and makes being black in America hard. It needs to be addressed. Efforts to address systemic racism are undermined when (possibly) well meaning SJWs pick silly issues that are not truly about race as their lead in to address issues of real, persistent and malignant racism. Being rude or an asshole to a black parent or kid isn't necessarily racist; sometimes it's just being rude or inconsiderate and being an asshole. Disagreeing with a choice or action made by a black person doesn't necessarily make you, or your action, racist. Black people don't want racist assholes calling us names anymore than we want white SJW agreeing with everything we say and treating us like fragile objects in order to prove they are "allies". This type of "Lunchable" effort does nothing to move the ball forward. White people who are inclined towards racist thoughts or actions (intentional or otherwise) will dig in deeper on seeing this crap and use it as evidence that the black struggle and racism are invented. Black people who use their blackness as a defense for shitty choices or actions (see, morbidly obese children) will see this as a license to perpetuate their behavior. Well meaning people in the middle who might otherwise engage in productive discussions will throw up their hands and not know WTF to do or say because the oxygen in the room is consumed by this garbage. And (white) people who are still grappling with whether and to what degree racism and the black experience informs their world get one more data point that minimizes the real issues facing black people in America.

Volunteers in classrooms shouldn't be assholes to anyone or make kids feel bad or give parenting advice to kids to communicate to their parents. There are real battles to fight; choose better ones.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have come to the conclusion that anti-racist training just encourages, like here, racism and misogyny all around. It perpetuates sexist and racist stereotypes and tropes. It does not encourage true dialogue, introspection, intersectionality among any individual, group, or demographic. Slavery is the original sin of this country, and racism, among other isms, remains, injures, and kills - but these inorganic efforts are as facile as the "consciousness-raising" activities of our parents. People calcify their convictions. Better to spend time and money integrating schools, workplaces, and neighborhoods.


That's some deep sh*t...I guess. Who really knows since much of it is nothing but woke buzzwords and academic phony baloney.

Here's a stripped down effort:

Racism is real and alive and makes being black in America hard. It needs to be addressed. Efforts to address systemic racism are undermined when (possibly) well meaning SJWs pick silly issues that are not truly about race as their lead in to address issues of real, persistent and malignant racism. Being rude or an asshole to a black parent or kid isn't necessarily racist; sometimes it's just being rude or inconsiderate and being an asshole. Disagreeing with a choice or action made by a black person doesn't necessarily make you, or your action, racist. Black people don't want racist assholes calling us names anymore than we want white SJW agreeing with everything we say and treating us like fragile objects in order to prove they are "allies". This type of "Lunchable" effort does nothing to move the ball forward. White people who are inclined towards racist thoughts or actions (intentional or otherwise) will dig in deeper on seeing this crap and use it as evidence that the black struggle and racism are invented. Black people who use their blackness as a defense for shitty choices or actions (see, morbidly obese children) will see this as a license to perpetuate their behavior. Well meaning people in the middle who might otherwise engage in productive discussions will throw up their hands and not know WTF to do or say because the oxygen in the room is consumed by this garbage. And (white) people who are still grappling with whether and to what degree racism and the black experience informs their world get one more data point that minimizes the real issues facing black people in America.

Volunteers in classrooms shouldn't be assholes to anyone or make kids feel bad or give parenting advice to kids to communicate to their parents. There are real battles to fight; choose better ones.


PP post illustrates the point - calcification - name-calling for cheap kicks, etc.
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