Should Northeastern be T20? Or even T10?

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Anonymous wrote:Northeastern carefully studied what it needed to do to rise in the USN rankings and did those things. Shrank just enough class sizes to score points, bought higher stats kids with copious merit aid, started denying the local kids who had always filled their classrooms in favor of applicants from around the country in order to build national name recognition.

They rebranded and people fell for it.

They have lower stat kids enter in Spring. They don't count against USNWR stats.

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Anonymous wrote:So, if a school is attracting a lot of good students and has a lot of of good professors and places students in good jobs, how is it not a good school?
Yes, you can argue it's not the school for everyone but objectively speaking, how is it not a good school?

Don't play dumb. The OP is claiming not that it's merely a good school, but that it's an elite school that belongs in the T20 or T10, and dubiously (incorrectly) claims that it's somehow displaced Northwestern. Lmao. How pathetic. You NEU boosters need to learn that being obnoxious and repeatedly making outlandish claims only serve to undermine your position.

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Anonymous wrote:So, if a school is attracting a lot of good students and has a lot of of good professors and places students in good jobs, how is it not a good school?
Yes, you can argue it's not the school for everyone but objectively speaking, how is it not a good school?

A lot of people just pull garbage out of their ass, but objectively speaking these are the biggerst reasons it's getting popular.
COOP program cerntaly helps these. Location is also a good addition, but location alone doensn't achive anything.

Top Feeders to Tech and Silicon Valley -Updated July 2021
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-tech
Northeatern #15

Top Feeders to Wall Street - Updated July 2021
Northeatern #30
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

2021 Best Colleges in the U.S. by Salary Score
https://www.gradreports.com/best-colleges
Northeastern #23

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We did Boston college tours during SB too and NE was my DC's favorite. Go figure. Congrats to the parent whose kid is going next year!

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Anonymous wrote:Northeastern has no supplemental essay on the common app which is why they get so many applications.

Schools like Case Western also has no supplemental essay, and even higher ranked.
Why it doesn't get as many applications, lower acceptance rate, and higher yeild rate

Cleveland vs Boston. Really easy to sell Boston to HS students as an amazing place to spend 4 years. Case's location really doesn't help it.

Also, Case is 80% STem/Eng/Premed, much smaller population with non-stem areas.

But Case is a GEM and 1000x better school than NEU for STEM/Eng/Premed

According to your mother?

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/eng-rankings
Graduate Engineering Northeastern #34 Case #45

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate
Undergrad Engineeing Northeatern #45 Case #45


Why people keep pulling stuff out of their ass LOL

One of the reasons Northeatern is poupolar is that it has relatively strong Engineering, CS, and Business schools which are popular field in general as well as Health Science.

The reason it's popoular is it's hard to find well rounded and well balanced school like Northeasern in T50ish schools.
It's well positioned in all the areas coming up - retention rate(student happiness) surprisingly ranked #7, Endowment(58th among private colleges), Location with actual campus, Career plancement, etc. etc.

Forgot CS which is the biggetst in STEM

Northeastern #12 at CSRankings
Case is like #82

https://csrankings.org/#/fromyear/2011/toyear/2021/index?all&us

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Anonymous wrote:So, if a school is attracting a lot of good students and has a lot of of good professors and places students in good jobs, how is it not a good school?
Yes, you can argue it's not the school for everyone but objectively speaking, how is it not a good school?

Don't play dumb. The OP is claiming not that it's merely a good school, but that it's an elite school that belongs in the T20 or T10, and dubiously (incorrectly) claims that it's somehow displaced Northwestern. Lmao. How pathetic. You NEU boosters need to learn that being obnoxious and repeatedly making outlandish claims only serve to undermine your position.

And you NEU sh!tters just sound unhinged. And what gives you the credentials to assess any college?

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it seems to be a great school for what it teaches.

But DC didn't even consider it after discovering how minimal the foreign language offerings are. The only one you can major in is Spanish, and DC is interested in double majoring in Chinese and engineering.

Of course most kids don't want to major in a foreign language. If you're interested in STEM or business then Northeastern could be perfect. If you have any interest in the humanities then it doesn't seem to be an ideal place.

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OP is a visionary and DCUM has a problem with it. NEU is a new kind of school that is taking the stodgy IVY-covered "prestige" schools by storm. The beauty is that the faculty teaching at NEU are mostly like the ones from the old days when it was commuter school. But, the university administration is just amazing and has built a great team out lower-division players. This is one place that is run truly like a business and it is going to eat other universities for lunch. Kudos to NEU (and OP for bringing all this to light).

Here are some amazingly innovative things NEU does that changes the higher education game.

1) Co-ops. What an idea. It redefines higher-ed and NEU did it first.

2) Application fee waivers given out liberally, so all can apply.

3) No essays. Holistic-Shmolistic. Admitting by the numbers is faster and easier. Who wants to read tons of garbage essays from high school kids on why NEU is great.

4) Merit aid that is just enough to compete for attracting the few top students who can bring in other average full-pay students.

5) Drive everything using data science. They hired a guy who does admissions by big data analysis to guess who will accept and who won't. Real high tech stuff.

6) Don't pay for high-flown faculty (Nobel laureates) when you can hire half-a-dozen teachers with the same money.

7) Open as many branches as you can to capture the market. Now NEU is everywhere.

So, it is really hard for others to compete as NEU thinks just like a company maximizing revenues. So, that is good thing for higher ed, since one needs to be customer focused in any business. And in higher-ed, the customers are the kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Growing up in the Boston area some three decades ago, I confess that I didn't know of Northeastern. It was largely a commuter school back then. But, now, I have moved back to my hometown, and, WOW, what a difference a few decades make.It seems that Northeastern has all of a sudden become such a high-class school. It is now even displacing the other directional university, Northwestern.

I feel that universities should be ranked largely on how desirable they are to students. After all, that metric cannot be faked (looking at you Columbia). And students are actually voting with their feet which should count for the rankings more than anything else. I mean, if a university gets 90,000 applicants like NEU does, surely that should put it in the T20. Or even T10, I think. I see the Ivies boasting about crossing 50,000 applications and I am thinking: wait till Northeastern crosses 100,000 at twice that amount (!!!).

So, why isn't Northeastern getting the respect it should on this blog and it is IVY-IVY-IVY all the time? Is it just older folks sticking to their old views, not wanting to change? Thoughts welcome.

Simple answer. Absolutely not. It's getting a lot of applications because it is a safety school that is in an urban area.

It has been proven that it's not a safety school for anyone.
Not all urban area schools get popular, it's a combinaton of many factors.

It's immaterial what you think has been proven (or not), the fact remains that many consider it a safety school and hence the size of the applications.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is a visionary and DCUM has a problem with it. NEU is a new kind of school that is taking the stodgy IVY-covered "prestige" schools by storm. The beauty is that the faculty teaching at NEU are mostly like the ones from the old days when it was commuter school. But, the university administration is just amazing and has built a great team out lower-division players. This is one place that is run truly like a business and it is going to eat other universities for lunch. Kudos to NEU (and OP for bringing all this to light).

Here are some amazingly innovative things NEU does that changes the higher education game.

1) Co-ops. What an idea. It redefines higher-ed and NEU did it first.

2) Application fee waivers given out liberally, so all can apply.

3) No essays. Holistic-Shmolistic. Admitting by the numbers is faster and easier. Who wants to read tons of garbage essays from high school kids on why NEU is great.

4) Merit aid that is just enough to compete for attracting the few top students who can bring in other average full-pay students.

5) Drive everything using data science. They hired a guy who does admissions by big data analysis to guess who will accept and who won't. Real high tech stuff.

6) Don't pay for high-flown faculty (Nobel laureates) when you can hire half-a-dozen teachers with the same money.

7) Open as many branches as you can to capture the market. Now NEU is everywhere.

So, it is really hard for others to compete as NEU thinks just like a company maximizing revenues. So, that is good thing for higher ed, since one needs to be customer focused in any business. And in higher-ed, the customers are the kids.

I’m so embarrassed for you OP.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is a visionary and DCUM has a problem with it. NEU is a new kind of school that is taking the stodgy IVY-covered "prestige" schools by storm. The beauty is that the faculty teaching at NEU are mostly like the ones from the old days when it was commuter school. But, the university administration is just amazing and has built a great team out lower-division players. This is one place that is run truly like a business and it is going to eat other universities for lunch. Kudos to NEU (and OP for bringing all this to light).

Here are some amazingly innovative things NEU does that changes the higher education game.

1) Co-ops. What an idea. It redefines higher-ed and NEU did it first.

2) Application fee waivers given out liberally, so all can apply.

3) No essays. Holistic-Shmolistic. Admitting by the numbers is faster and easier. Who wants to read tons of garbage essays from high school kids on why NEU is great.

4) Merit aid that is just enough to compete for attracting the few top students who can bring in other average full-pay students.

5) Drive everything using data science. They hired a guy who does admissions by big data analysis to guess who will accept and who won't. Real high tech stuff.

6) Don't pay for high-flown faculty (Nobel laureates) when you can hire half-a-dozen teachers with the same money.

7) Open as many branches as you can to capture the market. Now NEU is everywhere.

So, it is really hard for others to compete as NEU thinks just like a company maximizing revenues. So, that is good thing for higher ed, since one needs to be customer focused in any business. And in higher-ed, the customers are the kids.

Hope you are getting paid by the word OP.

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Anonymous wrote:Growing up in the Boston area some three decades ago, I confess that I didn't know of Northeastern. It was largely a commuter school back then. But, now, I have moved back to my hometown, and, WOW, what a difference a few decades make.It seems that Northeastern has all of a sudden become such a high-class school. It is now even displacing the other directional university, Northwestern.

I feel that universities should be ranked largely on how desirable they are to students. After all, that metric cannot be faked (looking at you Columbia). And students are actually voting with their feet which should count for the rankings more than anything else. I mean, if a university gets 90,000 applicants like NEU does, surely that should put it in the T20. Or even T10, I think. I see the Ivies boasting about crossing 50,000 applications and I am thinking: wait till Northeastern crosses 100,000 at twice that amount (!!!).

So, why isn't Northeastern getting the respect it should on this blog and it is IVY-IVY-IVY all the time? Is it just older folks sticking to their old views, not wanting to change? Thoughts welcome.

Simple answer. Absolutely not. It's getting a lot of applications because it is a safety school that is in an urban area.

It has been proven that it's not a safety school for anyone.
Not all urban area schools get popular, it's a combinaton of many factors.

It's immaterial what you think has been proven (or not), the fact remains that many consider it a safety school and hence the size of the applications.

Those people have poor logical and reasoning skills, and will probably do poorly at college.
These are ones who bash Northeastern when they get rejected or waitlisted.

Northeastern had an acceptance rate around 18% and also the stats for the applicant pool is relatively very high on par with many of the T30 schools.

There are a bunch of T50 schools with higher acceptance rates over 20-30% and lower student stats(while also ranked higher by US NeWS, you should pick those schools for safety.

Many of the students pick Northeastern for the value and fit when it's ranked only #49.
They care less about ranking and prestige.

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Anonymous wrote:Growing up in the Boston area some three decades ago, I confess that I didn't know of Northeastern. It was largely a commuter school back then. But, now, I have moved back to my hometown, and, WOW, what a difference a few decades make.It seems that Northeastern has all of a sudden become such a high-class school. It is now even displacing the other directional university, Northwestern.

I feel that universities should be ranked largely on how desirable they are to students. After all, that metric cannot be faked (looking at you Columbia). And students are actually voting with their feet which should count for the rankings more than anything else. I mean, if a university gets 90,000 applicants like NEU does, surely that should put it in the T20. Or even T10, I think. I see the Ivies boasting about crossing 50,000 applications and I am thinking: wait till Northeastern crosses 100,000 at twice that amount (!!!).

So, why isn't Northeastern getting the respect it should on this blog and it is IVY-IVY-IVY all the time? Is it just older folks sticking to their old views, not wanting to change? Thoughts welcome.

Simple answer. Absolutely not. It's getting a lot of applications because it is a safety school that is in an urban area.

It has been proven that it's not a safety school for anyone.
Not all urban area schools get popular, it's a combinaton of many factors.

It's immaterial what you think has been proven (or not), the fact remains that many consider it a safety school and hence the size of the applications.

Those people have poor logical and reasoning skills, and will probably do poorly at college.
These are ones who bash Northeastern when they get rejected or waitlisted.

Northeastern had an acceptance rate around 18% and also the stats for the applicant pool is relatively very high on par with many of the T30 schools.

There are a bunch of T50 schools with higher acceptance rates over 20-30% and lower student stats(while also ranked higher by US NeWS, you should pick those schools for safety.

Many of the students pick Northeastern for the value and fit when it's ranked only #49.
They care less about ranking and prestige.

This is definitely a student troll. The logic sounds so… young and inexperienced. Several schools offer co-ops/experiential learning. This student is trying to catapult NEU into the top 10. Good try, but no mas.

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Be sure to ask admin about housing — and how it’s going for students living at the courtyard Marriott across town.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is very popular in here and with students.
Most students are preferring it more than BU.
The location and the internship opportunities is helping.

Some data actually backs that
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Northeastern+University&with=Boston+University

A big advantage over BU is that Northeastern actually has a nice cohesive campus

Just wrapped college admissions with my youngest DC, who opted not to see Boston schools. All my friends who took kids there who were looking in the BU, NEU, Tufts range commented favorably on Northeastern's campus. One of DC's friends wll be attending.