Should Northeastern be T20? Or even T10?

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Anonymous wrote:No skin in the Northeastern game, but I do not like their first semester study abroad policy. Wierd way to start college.

Yup! Now they are expanding their "Full first year study abroad" program (NUBound). Really not good, as the only locations are London and Mills College (Oakland CA). NEU has rebranded the Mills location as NUBound Bay Area---in late March, after their marketing team realized it wasn't attractive for most kids to want to go to college in Oakland, CA. But for prospective CS majors, they MUST go to Oakland. Engineers have to go to London, but they don't even offer calculus 3 and Diff EQ. My own kid won't be attending, as kid doesn't want to in essence be a transfer student for 2nd year. But it's a brilliant marketing plan---go on the FB parents page for NUIn and NUBound and you will see that there are some parents who are complaining (rightly so) that the program doesn't offer the classes their kid needs, so they will be at least a semester behind, that it's costly ($75K for London and that's without any meals), oh and until 2 weeks ago, the NUBound were not ever allowed to live on campus (now they are). But yeah, go overseas for a year with 200 people, hope you like those 200 people because you are gonna have to pick who you live with 2nd year from these people cause you don't know anyone else, find an off campus apartment in Boston with people you barely know from 4K miles away.

But it's amazing the number of parents rightly complaining about all the flaws of the program, yet are still desperate to commit to NEU.

It's weired people just pick on Northeasern.
It's a pretty common program everywhere.
Also a lot of schools accept bunch of tranfer students. It' basicall same as that.

Even UVA has one
https://uvaglobalfirst.as.virginia.edu/

NEU has marketed their spring start (NUIn) and fall transfer (NUBound) extremely well. I will give them credit for that. They are making $$$$$ off of this as well. majority of NUIn and NUBound are full pay candidates, as you cannot use most financial aid for these

However, I would not encourage my kid to do this at any university. Instead, have Safeties that you actually would be thrilled to attend, and select one of those. Go somewhere that actually wants you, so you can start as a normal freshman. It will always be harder to integrate into a place that you don't start fall of freshman year.

My kid did just that and had 2 safeties that are amazing and that DC would have been thrilled to attend and would have picked over NEU NUBound (which DC got). Luckily for us DC will be picking between 2, Top 40 schools.

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It is now even displacing the other directional university, Northwestern.

Yeah, no. Not even remotely. Nice try, shill.

Genuinely so pathetic. NEU boosters are truly something else and manage to garner even more disdain toward the school, if anything.

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Anonymous wrote:As the parent of a kid who is likely heading to Northeastern in the fall, this thread has been a fun read...

What he likes about the school it is location in Boston, and the opportunities offered by the Co-op program. While its true that other colleges can offer something at least superficially similar, no one else has really integrated the system into its curriculum and education model the way Northeastern has. Because (almost) everyone participates, it doesn't segregate out groups of kids from the general student population. And it gives kids a structured way to get very good professional experience while in college. For the right kid, it seems like an excellent fit. He has also been admitted to the Honors program, which offers some additional benefits.

For what its worth, the students by kid has talked to on campus seem very happy and pumped about the school.

I can see that Northeastern is rather self-selecting and good for the right kid. Not for us but good for you — imagine that! Congrats.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s definitely T10 of schools in Boston.

Yeah but barely

According to Niche, it's #6 in the Boston area

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

"in Boston" not "in the Boston area" was the joke.

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How about Boston Metro Area as the link says.

Is that good for your standard?

"It’s definitely T10 of schools in Boston." was the joke. What do you think?

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Anonymous wrote:What are the “bunch of” schools that are higher ranked and admissions than NU?

Rankings are stupid + Northeastern is a good school but there are a lot of colleges ranked by USNews below NEU that are in reality better.

The fact that the general perception is that the majority of people are not "buying" into NEU as an elite school (assuming they've heard of it) tells you all you need to know about where the school stands relative to the elite schools.

The OP asking if T10 is an obvious troll, I would wager that in the history of Northeastern there has not been a single student that chose NEU over a T10 school assuming they could afford both. Seriously, is that kid that got into H,Y and P going to hold out on the deposit to see if they can get off the NEU waitlist? lol

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Anonymous wrote:It’s definitely T10 of schools in Boston.

Yeah but barely

According to Niche, it's #6 in the Boston area

https://www.niche.com/colleges/search/best-colleges/m/boston-metro-area/

"in Boston" not "in the Boston area" was the joke.

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How about Boston Metro Area as the link says.

Is that good for your standard?

"It’s definitely T10 of schools in Boston." was the joke. What do you think?

Not PP, but it probably gets T10 in the Boston Metro Area. It really depends on how broadly you define the Boston Metro Area.

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Anonymous wrote:Northeastern has no supplemental essay on the common app which is why they get so many applications.

Schools like Case Western also has no supplemental essay, and even higher ranked.
Why it doesn't get as many applications, lower acceptance rate, and higher yeild rate

Cleveland vs Boston. Really easy to sell Boston to HS students as an amazing place to spend 4 years. Case's location really doesn't help it.

Also, Case is 80% STem/Eng/Premed, much smaller population with non-stem areas.

But Case is a GEM and 1000x better school than NEU for STEM/Eng/Premed

According to your mother?

https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-engineering-schools/eng-rankings
Graduate Engineering Northeastern #34 Case #45

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering-doctorate
Undergrad Engineeing Northeatern #45 Case #45


Why people keep pulling stuff out of their ass LOL

One of the reasons Northeatern is poupolar is that it has relatively strong Engineering, CS, and Business schools which are popular field in general as well as Health Science.

The reason it's popoular is it's hard to find well rounded and well balanced school like Northeasern in T50ish schools.
It's well positioned in all the areas coming up - retention rate(student happiness) surprisingly ranked #7, Endowment(58th among private colleges), Location with actual campus, Career plancement, etc. etc.

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Anonymous wrote:No skin in the Northeastern game, but I do not like their first semester study abroad policy. Wierd way to start college.

Yup! Now they are expanding their "Full first year study abroad" program (NUBound). Really not good, as the only locations are London and Mills College (Oakland CA). NEU has rebranded the Mills location as NUBound Bay Area---in late March, after their marketing team realized it wasn't attractive for most kids to want to go to college in Oakland, CA. But for prospective CS majors, they MUST go to Oakland. Engineers have to go to London, but they don't even offer calculus 3 and Diff EQ. My own kid won't be attending, as kid doesn't want to in essence be a transfer student for 2nd year. But it's a brilliant marketing plan---go on the FB parents page for NUIn and NUBound and you will see that there are some parents who are complaining (rightly so) that the program doesn't offer the classes their kid needs, so they will be at least a semester behind, that it's costly ($75K for London and that's without any meals), oh and until 2 weeks ago, the NUBound were not ever allowed to live on campus (now they are). But yeah, go overseas for a year with 200 people, hope you like those 200 people because you are gonna have to pick who you live with 2nd year from these people cause you don't know anyone else, find an off campus apartment in Boston with people you barely know from 4K miles away.

But it's amazing the number of parents rightly complaining about all the flaws of the program, yet are still desperate to commit to NEU.

It's weired people just pick on Northeasern.
It's a pretty common program everywhere.
Also a lot of schools accept bunch of tranfer students. It' basicall same as that.

Even UVA has one
https://uvaglobalfirst.as.virginia.edu/

NEU has marketed their spring start (NUIn) and fall transfer (NUBound) extremely well. I will give them credit for that. They are making $$$$$ off of this as well. majority of NUIn and NUBound are full pay candidates, as you cannot use most financial aid for these

However, I would not encourage my kid to do this at any university. Instead, have Safeties that you actually would be thrilled to attend, and select one of those. Go somewhere that actually wants you, so you can start as a normal freshman. It will always be harder to integrate into a place that you don't start fall of freshman year.

My kid did just that and had 2 safeties that are amazing and that DC would have been thrilled to attend and would have picked over NEU NUBound (which DC got). Luckily for us DC will be picking between 2, Top 40 schools.

I understand. It's a matter of personal preference and choice.
My kid got into first year away program at Georgia Tech.
Kid went to Northeaetrn and chose to stay at Northeaern rathern than going to Georgia Tech at 2nd year.
(At the end of the first year, kid still had option to choose)

However it could be a great deal for many other students.
Northeatern has big chunk of student body coming in and out for COOP.
So it makes sense for Northeaern to have that kind of program.

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Anonymous wrote:The first year study abroad is for weak academic students. That is why the school does not break down the scores for the participants.

Used to be, but not anymore.

Now it's largely for full pay students

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Anonymous wrote:Growing up in the Boston area some three decades ago, I confess that I didn't know of Northeastern. It was largely a commuter school back then. But, now, I have moved back to my hometown, and, WOW, what a difference a few decades make.It seems that Northeastern has all of a sudden become such a high-class school. It is now even displacing the other directional university, Northwestern.

I feel that universities should be ranked largely on how desirable they are to students. After all, that metric cannot be faked (looking at you Columbia). And students are actually voting with their feet which should count for the rankings more than anything else. I mean, if a university gets 90,000 applicants like NEU does, surely that should put it in the T20. Or even T10, I think. I see the Ivies boasting about crossing 50,000 applications and I am thinking: wait till Northeastern crosses 100,000 at twice that amount (!!!).

So, why isn't Northeastern getting the respect it should on this blog and it is IVY-IVY-IVY all the time? Is it just older folks sticking to their old views, not wanting to change? Thoughts welcome.

Simple answer. Absolutely not. It's getting a lot of applications because it is a safety school that is in an urban area.

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Anonymous wrote:Growing up in the Boston area some three decades ago, I confess that I didn't know of Northeastern. It was largely a commuter school back then. But, now, I have moved back to my hometown, and, WOW, what a difference a few decades make.It seems that Northeastern has all of a sudden become such a high-class school. It is now even displacing the other directional university, Northwestern.

I feel that universities should be ranked largely on how desirable they are to students. After all, that metric cannot be faked (looking at you Columbia). And students are actually voting with their feet which should count for the rankings more than anything else. I mean, if a university gets 90,000 applicants like NEU does, surely that should put it in the T20. Or even T10, I think. I see the Ivies boasting about crossing 50,000 applications and I am thinking: wait till Northeastern crosses 100,000 at twice that amount (!!!).

So, why isn't Northeastern getting the respect it should on this blog and it is IVY-IVY-IVY all the time? Is it just older folks sticking to their old views, not wanting to change? Thoughts welcome.

Simple answer. Absolutely not. It's getting a lot of applications because it is a safety school that is in an urban area.

It has been proven that it's not a safety school for anyone.
Not all urban area schools get popular, it's a combinaton of many factors.

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Anonymous wrote:What are the “bunch of” schools that are higher ranked and admissions than NU?

Rankings are stupid + Northeastern is a good school but there are a lot of colleges ranked by USNews below NEU that are in reality better.

The fact that the general perception is that the majority of people are not "buying" into NEU as an elite school (assuming they've heard of it) tells you all you need to know about where the school stands relative to the elite schools.

The OP asking if T10 is an obvious troll, I would wager that in the history of Northeastern there has not been a single student that chose NEU over a T10 school assuming they could afford both. Seriously, is that kid that got into H,Y and P going to hold out on the deposit to see if they can get off the NEU waitlist? lol

Yes other T50 schools are good, but a lot of colleges ranked higher by USNews are not really that better in reality.

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So, if a school is attracting a lot of good students and has a lot of of good professors and places students in good jobs, how is it not a good school?
Yes, you can argue it's not the school for everyone but objectively speaking, how is it not a good school?

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Anonymous wrote:Growing up in the Boston area some three decades ago, I confess that I didn't know of Northeastern. It was largely a commuter school back then. But, now, I have moved back to my hometown, and, WOW, what a difference a few decades make.It seems that Northeastern has all of a sudden become such a high-class school. It is now even displacing the other directional university, Northwestern.

I feel that universities should be ranked largely on how desirable they are to students. After all, that metric cannot be faked (looking at you Columbia). And students are actually voting with their feet which should count for the rankings more than anything else. I mean, if a university gets 90,000 applicants like NEU does, surely that should put it in the T20. Or even T10, I think. I see the Ivies boasting about crossing 50,000 applications and I am thinking: wait till Northeastern crosses 100,000 at twice that amount (!!!).

So, why isn't Northeastern getting the respect it should on this blog and it is IVY-IVY-IVY all the time? Is it just older folks sticking to their old views, not wanting to change? Thoughts welcome.

Northeastern should even be T50, if it weren’t for merit money offers.

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AND location.