It is attainable for someone to look “understated wealthy” without actually wealthy?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you can be stylish and well put together with being wealthy. Take good care of yourself and have your clothes tailored.

I don't find that truly wealthy people dress all that well. ?

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Anonymous wrote:OP I hope all the great advice here is helpful for your aspirations:

1. Children should join American circus
2. Wear expensive underaged jewelry but not in MC/ LMC areas where you might get mugged;
3. Don’t name Drop any European fashion designers/ cars etc - Tear charging station in front yard;
4. Try to find a high end American car you can keep for thirty years;
5. Don’t mention that you follow European royals. Leave equestrian and ethical investment magazines lying around.
6. Bumper stickers referring to skiing in Aspen, Horse riding in Montana and summers in the Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard;
7. Discrete tattoos on ankles or shoulders in Latin (Where there was no way, we found one). This is a subtle cue that old money will Pick up on : nouveau Riche have yet to find their way but you already arrived;
8. Finally, Sing the praises of your home help who are like your family. They even get to come on vacation with you and clean up after you and cook for you! Ideal family!

EUROPEAN circus.

Do you have any recs? We went to one in Switzerland but it was a bit lame. On second thoughts, that could be ideal since I would prefer DC have low risk path to social glory - no crazy stunts and not many tragically enslaved animals …. Would you advise training as clowns, trapeze artists or animal trainers ? Which would look effortlessly elegant and old European money?

NP here, but clowns are the LMC of the circus world: anyone can get into clown school, as with the trades, and there are no barriers to entry (ergo, not an elite path). Animal trainers are the UMC professionals: elite, difficult work, but not a lot of money relative to the amount of skill it takes to succeed. Might get eaten by a big animal, as UMC professionals are wont be in corporate buyout/mergers and inquisitions games. So that leaves trapeze artists: elegant, can be somewhat cerebral work, requires lots of expensive lessons (and hospital bills!) and potentially better-than-average sense of balance/coordination (developed through those old money genes that were specifically selected to ensure familial ascent in the financial and physical worlds). Won't be easy, so good luck! I'd even suggest starting at a circus in Canada, using it as sort of a finishing school before you audition for the big boy stuff in Europe or the States.

Ooh good advice thank you.

I love that - Canadian Circus Finishing School . They will hopefully be too nice to snark about our klutz gene.

We do have good medical insurance for the trapeze route. And I can custom order beautiful silk scarves for the floaty sky rope dancing numbers .., I do fancy myself as a silk scarf aficionado and now I can out that to noble use.

Cirque du Soleil, her we come …

The PP is correct, but you need to be realistic. Your genes can’t beat Grace Kelly’s + Grimaldi’s, so your kid can’t have the elephant tamers(they were bred for the richest families). This sophisticated piece of European meat is out of your league:


M
P.s: The wrist tattoo is advisable.

This is why we will go the Canadian Circus Finishing School route - Canadians are too nice to quash my social climbing ambitions. We will need to remember to work on adding “eh” to the end of sentences and pretending to care about ice hockey. I am sure a few nice silk scarves will cover up any genetic deficiencies.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you can be stylish and well put together with being wealthy. Take good care of yourself and have your clothes tailored.

I don't find that truly wealthy people dress all that well. ?

Depends on which wealthy people, and how old they are.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you can be stylish and well put together with being wealthy. Take good care of yourself and have your clothes tailored.

I don't find that truly wealthy people dress all that well. ?

Depends on which wealthy people, and how old they are.

Heavens above. There is no nuance here. We know how to recognize each other instantly by our dress codes.

All the best DMV country clubs provide the unwritten social rules for old money members after they are initiated into our ancient order for the Truly Wealthy. Nouveau riche members have different unwritten social rules such as allowing discrete tattoos and Teslas rather than pearl twin sets and thirty year old Volvos.

This is all absolutely true and anyone who says otherwise is trolling.

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I thought my child’s preschool teacher must have been married to a wealthy guy because she was always dressed to the nines. Turns out she buys all of her clothes from consignment stores and she looks fab. So yes, you can do it if you have an eye for quality.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I hope all the great advice here is helpful for your aspirations:

1. Children should join American circus
2. Wear expensive underaged jewelry but not in MC/ LMC areas where you might get mugged;
3. Don’t name Drop any European fashion designers/ cars etc - Tear charging station in front yard;
4. Try to find a high end American car you can keep for thirty years;
5. Don’t mention that you follow European royals. Leave equestrian and ethical investment magazines lying around.
6. Bumper stickers referring to skiing in Aspen, Horse riding in Montana and summers in the Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard;
7. Discrete tattoos on ankles or shoulders in Latin (Where there was no way, we found one). This is a subtle cue that old money will Pick up on : nouveau Riche have yet to find their way but you already arrived;
8. Finally, Sing the praises of your home help who are like your family. They even get to come on vacation with you and clean up after you and cook for you! Ideal family!

EUROPEAN circus.

Do you have any recs? We went to one in Switzerland but it was a bit lame. On second thoughts, that could be ideal since I would prefer DC have low risk path to social glory - no crazy stunts and not many tragically enslaved animals …. Would you advise training as clowns, trapeze artists or animal trainers ? Which would look effortlessly elegant and old European money?

NP here, but clowns are the LMC of the circus world: anyone can get into clown school, as with the trades, and there are no barriers to entry (ergo, not an elite path). Animal trainers are the UMC professionals: elite, difficult work, but not a lot of money relative to the amount of skill it takes to succeed. Might get eaten by a big animal, as UMC professionals are wont be in corporate buyout/mergers and inquisitions games. So that leaves trapeze artists: elegant, can be somewhat cerebral work, requires lots of expensive lessons (and hospital bills!) and potentially better-than-average sense of balance/coordination (developed through those old money genes that were specifically selected to ensure familial ascent in the financial and physical worlds). Won't be easy, so good luck! I'd even suggest starting at a circus in Canada, using it as sort of a finishing school before you audition for the big boy stuff in Europe or the States.

Ooh good advice thank you.

I love that - Canadian Circus Finishing School . They will hopefully be too nice to snark about our klutz gene.

We do have good medical insurance for the trapeze route. And I can custom order beautiful silk scarves for the floaty sky rope dancing numbers .., I do fancy myself as a silk scarf aficionado and now I can out that to noble use.

Cirque du Soleil, her we come …

The PP is correct, but you need to be realistic. Your genes can’t beat Grace Kelly’s + Grimaldi’s, so your kid can’t have the elephant tamers(they were bred for the richest families). This sophisticated piece of European meat is out of your league:


M
P.s: The wrist tattoo is advisable.

This is why we will go the Canadian Circus Finishing School route - Canadians are too nice to quash my social climbing ambitions. We will need to remember to work on adding “eh” to the end of sentences and pretending to care about ice hockey. I am sure a few nice silk scarves will cover up any genetic deficiencies.

Precisely. Try to get into a francophone Canadian circus. The Quebecois accent will take some work to get rid of, but simply knowing French will give you that certain je ne sais quoi that new money eats up.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, you can be stylish and well put together with being wealthy. Take good care of yourself and have your clothes tailored.

I don't find that truly wealthy people dress all that well. ?

Depends on which wealthy people, and how old they are.

Heavens above. There is no nuance here. We know how to recognize each other instantly by our dress codes.

All the best DMV country clubs provide the unwritten social rules for old money members after they are initiated into our ancient order for the Truly Wealthy. Nouveau riche members have different unwritten social rules such as allowing discrete tattoos and Teslas rather than pearl twin sets and thirty year old Volvos.

This is all absolutely true and anyone who says otherwise is trolling.

Right. Twin set pearls are not stylish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I come from an old money family on one side (“old” is relative but think the Van Rijns in The Guilded Age, not the Russells), and a newer wealthy family (1930/40s) on another side. Most of the money is now in the family foundations and us descendants sit on the boards and spend a lot of time forging out how to give away our ancestors’ money in the most effective ways. Those of us who have money now have it because we worked for it.
I have good manners and can converse on many subjects and I’m proficient in several languages, can play tennis, piano, sail, ski, etc, but I can also change a tire, fix a tear in a dress and read a map like a cartographer.
Basically, my parents made sure I had some practical knowledge of life despite the privilege of my birth.

Do all "old money" people sound like such pretentious tools?

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Anonymous wrote:OP I hope all the great advice here is helpful for your aspirations:

1. Children should join American circus
2. Wear expensive underaged jewelry but not in MC/ LMC areas where you might get mugged;
3. Don’t name Drop any European fashion designers/ cars etc - Tear charging station in front yard;
4. Try to find a high end American car you can keep for thirty years;
5. Don’t mention that you follow European royals. Leave equestrian and ethical investment magazines lying around.
6. Bumper stickers referring to skiing in Aspen, Horse riding in Montana and summers in the Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard;
7. Discrete tattoos on ankles or shoulders in Latin (Where there was no way, we found one). This is a subtle cue that old money will Pick up on : nouveau Riche have yet to find their way but you already arrived;
8. Finally, Sing the praises of your home help who are like your family. They even get to come on vacation with you and clean up after you and cook for you! Ideal family!

EUROPEAN circus.

Do you have any recs? We went to one in Switzerland but it was a bit lame. On second thoughts, that could be ideal since I would prefer DC have low risk path to social glory - no crazy stunts and not many tragically enslaved animals …. Would you advise training as clowns, trapeze artists or animal trainers ? Which would look effortlessly elegant and old European money?

NP here, but clowns are the LMC of the circus world: anyone can get into clown school, as with the trades, and there are no barriers to entry (ergo, not an elite path). Animal trainers are the UMC professionals: elite, difficult work, but not a lot of money relative to the amount of skill it takes to succeed. Might get eaten by a big animal, as UMC professionals are wont be in corporate buyout/mergers and inquisitions games. So that leaves trapeze artists: elegant, can be somewhat cerebral work, requires lots of expensive lessons (and hospital bills!) and potentially better-than-average sense of balance/coordination (developed through those old money genes that were specifically selected to ensure familial ascent in the financial and physical worlds). Won't be easy, so good luck! I'd even suggest starting at a circus in Canada, using it as sort of a finishing school before you audition for the big boy stuff in Europe or the States.

Ooh good advice thank you.

I love that - Canadian Circus Finishing School . They will hopefully be too nice to snark about our klutz gene.

We do have good medical insurance for the trapeze route. And I can custom order beautiful silk scarves for the floaty sky rope dancing numbers .., I do fancy myself as a silk scarf aficionado and now I can out that to noble use.

Cirque du Soleil, her we come …

The PP is correct, but you need to be realistic. Your genes can’t beat Grace Kelly’s + Grimaldi’s, so your kid can’t have the elephant tamers(they were bred for the richest families). This sophisticated piece of European meat is out of your league:


M
P.s: The wrist tattoo is advisable.

This is why we will go the Canadian Circus Finishing School route - Canadians are too nice to quash my social climbing ambitions. We will need to remember to work on adding “eh” to the end of sentences and pretending to care about ice hockey. I am sure a few nice silk scarves will cover up any genetic deficiencies.

Precisely. Try to get into a francophone Canadian circus. The Quebecois accent will take some work to get rid of, but simply knowing French will give you that certain je ne sais quoi that new money eats up.

Oui oui
Établie à Montréal, l'organisation canadienne a émerveillé et enchanté plus de 180 millions de spectateurs avec des productions présentées dans 450 villes de 60 pays. Cirque du Soleil Entertainment Group emploie actuellement 4 000 personnes, dont 1 300 artistes, originaires de près de 50 pays.

Mais malgré tout ce succès, le Cirque du Soleil a un écart. Il leur manque une famille d'ascension sociale de DMV qui sait comment agiter des foulards en soie avec noblesse oblige.

Ils doivent avoir le gène klutz pour un effet maximal.

Viva la sobre fabuleusement riche du DMV. Laissez-les manger du gâteau et travaillez-le en dansant avec des foulards en soie.

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Anonymous wrote:I come from an old money family on one side (“old” is relative but think the Van Rijns in The Guilded Age, not the Russells), and a newer wealthy family (1930/40s) on another side. Most of the money is now in the family foundations and us descendants sit on the boards and spend a lot of time forging out how to give away our ancestors’ money in the most effective ways. Those of us who have money now have it because we worked for it.
I have good manners and can converse on many subjects and I’m proficient in several languages, can play tennis, piano, sail, ski, etc, but I can also change a tire, fix a tear in a dress and read a map like a cartographer.
Basically, my parents made sure I had some practical knowledge of life despite the privilege of my birth.

Do all "old money" people sound like such pretentious tools?

I dunno - I like her!

Wish my parents taught me to change a tire and read maps like a cartographer. So many useful skill sets being lost to social media zombie land …

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I come from an old money family on one side (“old” is relative but think the Van Rijns in The Guilded Age, not the Russells), and a newer wealthy family (1930/40s) on another side. Most of the money is now in the family foundations and us descendants sit on the boards and spend a lot of time forging out how to give away our ancestors’ money in the most effective ways. Those of us who have money now have it because we worked for it.
I have good manners and can converse on many subjects and I’m proficient in several languages, can play tennis, piano, sail, ski, etc, but I can also change a tire, fix a tear in a dress and read a map like a cartographer.
Basically, my parents made sure I had some practical knowledge of life despite the privilege of my birth.

Do all "old money" people sound like such pretentious tools?

I dunno - I like her!

Wish my parents taught me to change a tire and read maps like a cartographer. So many useful skill sets being lost to social media zombie land …

It does not take great skill or many hours to learn to change a tire or read a map.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I hope all the great advice here is helpful for your aspirations:

1. Children should join American circus
2. Wear expensive underaged jewelry but not in MC/ LMC areas where you might get mugged;
3. Don’t name Drop any European fashion designers/ cars etc - Tear charging station in front yard;
4. Try to find a high end American car you can keep for thirty years;
5. Don’t mention that you follow European royals. Leave equestrian and ethical investment magazines lying around.
6. Bumper stickers referring to skiing in Aspen, Horse riding in Montana and summers in the Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard;
7. Discrete tattoos on ankles or shoulders in Latin (Where there was no way, we found one). This is a subtle cue that old money will Pick up on : nouveau Riche have yet to find their way but you already arrived;
8. Finally, Sing the praises of your home help who are like your family. They even get to come on vacation with you and clean up after you and cook for you! Ideal family!

EUROPEAN circus.

Do you have any recs? We went to one in Switzerland but it was a bit lame. On second thoughts, that could be ideal since I would prefer DC have low risk path to social glory - no crazy stunts and not many tragically enslaved animals …. Would you advise training as clowns, trapeze artists or animal trainers ? Which would look effortlessly elegant and old European money?

NP here, but clowns are the LMC of the circus world: anyone can get into clown school, as with the trades, and there are no barriers to entry (ergo, not an elite path). Animal trainers are the UMC professionals: elite, difficult work, but not a lot of money relative to the amount of skill it takes to succeed. Might get eaten by a big animal, as UMC professionals are wont be in corporate buyout/mergers and inquisitions games. So that leaves trapeze artists: elegant, can be somewhat cerebral work, requires lots of expensive lessons (and hospital bills!) and potentially better-than-average sense of balance/coordination (developed through those old money genes that were specifically selected to ensure familial ascent in the financial and physical worlds). Won't be easy, so good luck! I'd even suggest starting at a circus in Canada, using it as sort of a finishing school before you audition for the big boy stuff in Europe or the States.

Ooh good advice thank you.

I love that - Canadian Circus Finishing School . They will hopefully be too nice to snark about our klutz gene.

We do have good medical insurance for the trapeze route. And I can custom order beautiful silk scarves for the floaty sky rope dancing numbers .., I do fancy myself as a silk scarf aficionado and now I can out that to noble use.

Cirque du Soleil, her we come …

The PP is correct, but you need to be realistic. Your genes can’t beat Grace Kelly’s + Grimaldi’s, so your kid can’t have the elephant tamers(they were bred for the richest families). This sophisticated piece of European meat is out of your league:


M
P.s: The wrist tattoo is advisable.

This is why we will go the Canadian Circus Finishing School route - Canadians are too nice to quash my social climbing ambitions. We will need to remember to work on adding “eh” to the end of sentences and pretending to care about ice hockey. I am sure a few nice silk scarves will cover up any genetic deficiencies.

Precisely. Try to get into a francophone Canadian circus. The Quebecois accent will take some work to get rid of, but simply knowing French will give you that certain je ne sais quoi that new money eats up.

Oui oui
Établie à Montréal, l'organisation canadienne a émerveillé et enchanté plus de 180 millions de spectateurs avec des productions présentées dans 450 villes de 60 pays. Cirque du Soleil Entertainment Group emploie actuellement 4 000 personnes, dont 1 300 artistes, originaires de près de 50 pays.

Mais malgré tout ce succès, le Cirque du Soleil a un écart. Il leur manque une famille d'ascension sociale de DMV qui sait comment agiter des foulards en soie avec noblesse oblige.

Ils doivent avoir le gène klutz pour un effet maximal.

Viva la sobre fabuleusement riche du DMV. Laissez-les manger du gâteau et travaillez-le en dansant avec des foulards en soie.

Nouvelle posteur ici. Je suis entièrement d'accord avec le sage conseil de PP. Je ne suis pas née riche, mais j'ai fréquentée l'école de cirque canadienne et maintenant je suis constamment confuse pour quelqu’une avec les vielles fortunes, surtout quand je m’habille en les foulards en soie.

Et la prime: Les familles DMV recevront des points de plus et des sièges de troisième rangée pour payer les frais de scolarité internationaux.

[Anonymous]

You need to wear designer clothes. Hermes scarves. A birkin. And drive a white Range Rover. And blonde hair. In the winter wear a Canada goose black jacket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Be thin. Be confident. Wear high quality clothes. Be thin. Be thin. Good grooming. Be thin.

This!!!
Be thin and you can make a Target outfit look like it costs thousands. I just got back from an event where I wore a $50 dress and was told repeatedly how gorgeous I was. Seriously, I'm just thin an muscular; I can wear anything!

Everyone else was wearing high end brands. I was in a lightly used Ralph Lauren dress from years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You need to wear designer clothes. Hermes scarves. A birkin. And drive a white Range Rover. And blonde hair. In the winter wear a Canada goose black jacket.

Nope just weight 10lbs less than what your mid healthy weight is