It is attainable for someone to look “understated wealthy” without actually wealthy?

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Anonymous wrote:I come from an old money family on one side (“old” is relative but think the Van Rijns in The Guilded Age, not the Russells), and a newer wealthy family (1930/40s) on another side. Most of the money is now in the family foundations and us descendants sit on the boards and spend a lot of time forging out how to give away our ancestors’ money in the most effective ways. Those of us who have money now have it because we worked for it.
I have good manners and can converse on many subjects and I’m proficient in several languages, can play tennis, piano, sail, ski, etc, but I can also change a tire, fix a tear in a dress and read a map like a cartographer.
Basically, my parents made sure I had some practical knowledge of life despite the privilege of my birth.

Do all "old money" people sound like such pretentious tools?

I dunno - I like her!

Wish my parents taught me to change a tire and read maps like a cartographer. So many useful skill sets being lost to social media zombie land …

+1
I read it and it sounded like I wrote it. She's pretty spot on.

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Anonymous wrote:Drive a top of the line Volvo or Mercedes from 10-20 years ago.

Wear high end basics like a gray cashmere sweater with slacks or jeans. Good leather loafers/ballet flats.

Wear the same expensive yet understated jewelry everyday.

Invest in a high quality European coat. Wear it for decades.

High quality accessories.

Minimal makeup.

This except the car. A few years old is good not 20.

And a straight bobbed haircut.

I know legit super duper old money millionaires whose only “work” entails serving on charitable boards. They live in NYC with houses in CT and Manchester, VT, etc. They have really old cars in pristine condition at their country homes and beach houses. Their fun city cars include 80s era Porsches and the like. Super old range rovers, suburbans, woodies, etc.

Wealthy people buy high quality stuff and keep it in pristine condition. It’s their thing.

^This is true about the cars.

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Anonymous wrote:OP -- look to old families in countries that were colonized and robbed of their wealth. Those people are now poor, but maintain their dignity because they know true class isn't from money.

+1!! You can wear less expensive clothes and still radiate class, because it all comes down to bearing.

Seems none of the royals of Europe have received your memo, as they all still insist on wearing very expensive brands. Maybe you should let them know?

Have you seen Kate Middleton in her 20 pound ($30) Top Shop dresses? Yeah she regularly sports cheaper clothes and rocks the he!! out of them because she's thin!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think so tbh. You could hire a stylist to help with clothing though. The internal bit of being deeply, generationally wealthy - entirely financially secure - way down into you genes is not something you can acquire.

I agree with this. I think the reason people are obsessed with looking wealthy (on this board and just in general) is because we see rich people and want to feel like that -- truly secure in your well being, and the well bing of your kids if you have them. It's not exactly confidence (though it might also be that) -- there are poor people who are confident. It's that sense of security.

I saw a woman the other day who embodied that super understated rich person vibe. Her clothes were not showy at all -- a good quality raincoat from LL Bean or similar, nice straight cut jeans that were flattering and fit well and likely from a luxury brand, but no obvious branding or identifying marks. No socks, and good quality leather loafers -- they looked like they were from M.Gemi or similar but again, no obvious branding. She had long hair with a center part, it was healthy with a good cut but not styled. No makeup. Non-descript tote bag.

I could recreate her entire look tomorrow and it wouldn't even be unattainable for me financially. All in, it's probably less than 1k, including the haircut (excluding the jewelry, but again, it was so understated I don't even remember what it was -- probably a simple wedding band and some diamond studs). And I still wouldn't feel wealthy. I wouldn't even feel fashionable or pretty because there is nothing fashionable about this outfit. The reason this woman wore it well and it conveyed wealth is the WAY she wore it -- secure in the knowledge that she doesn't need to impress anyone with her clothes or style, that she can just wear good quality items that are comfortable and last, and it won't matter to her one way or the other if people like it or not.

That's it. Security. If you are trying to figure out how to "look wealthy" you are by definition insecure (and I don't mean that in an insulting way, I mean that in a descriptive way -- most of us are insecure in some way, financially or emotionally, and it's often not really our fault) and can't achieve it.

Yes and no.

I know someone who was raised very middle class, but her mother went to great lengths to dress upper class in an understated way. That was largely influenced by their super wealthy relatives. As an adult, she married well. She dresses a certain way and carries herself as though she’s old money. She even appears better put together/more old money than her old money cousins (who are ooooooolllllldddd money with a family name many might recognize).

So, yes, you can dress a certain way and carry yourself with an elegance that will likely bring you confidence and respect.

Let's be clear about one thing. The USA is a new country. There is no Old Money here. If an American recognizes a name, that person cannot be Old Money. But I grant you that they're less New Money than people who accrued wealth with crypto

- European aristocrat.

Americans aren’t impressed by European standards.

Americans have old money families. Titans of industry. Businessmen. East Coast old money is thing. Southern money is different. Silicon tech new money isn’t the same thing.

East coast old money families send their kids to boarding school and sailing camp. Their kids go to ivies but don’t need a job. They are fresh faced and skew understated/basic preppy. They are the American ideal aesthetic, which is why we have a new thread every flipping week.

If you don’t get it, you don’t get it.

Does this mean I have to stop keeping up with the royal families of Monaco and Greta’s Britain ? Should I advise my DC to not aim for Cambridge or St Andrews so they can better mingle with American old money prospective spouses ?

You do you, pp.

The British royal family is far different than European aristocrats that Americans haven’t heard of. By contrast, some Americans still strive to carry themselves like a Kennedy.

Fwiw, I’m an Anglophile. I love several uk brands.

I agree, the British are less inbred.

You're kidding, right? The Queen and Prince Philip were cousins...3rd cousins but still.

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Anonymous wrote:You need to wear designer clothes. Hermes scarves. A birkin. And drive a white Range Rover. And blonde hair. In the winter wear a Canada goose black jacket.

Nope that’s tacky.

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You need perfect (straight and no gaps) teeth but NOT fake-whitened. Be thin. No green or purple hair.

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Anonymous wrote:OP -- look to old families in countries that were colonized and robbed of their wealth. Those people are now poor, but maintain their dignity because they know true class isn't from money.

+1!! You can wear less expensive clothes and still radiate class, because it all comes down to bearing.

Seems none of the royals of Europe have received your memo, as they all still insist on wearing very expensive brands. Maybe you should let them know?

Have you seen Kate Middleton in her 20 pound ($30) Top Shop dresses? Yeah she regularly sports cheaper clothes and rocks the he!! out of them because she's thin!

She looks great in everything. I really like her style. Feminine but not fussy and also functional. She is always dress appropriately for every event.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I hope all the great advice here is helpful for your aspirations:

1. Children should join American circus
2. Wear expensive underaged jewelry but not in MC/ LMC areas where you might get mugged;
3. Don’t name Drop any European fashion designers/ cars etc - Tear charging station in front yard;
4. Try to find a high end American car you can keep for thirty years;
5. Don’t mention that you follow European royals. Leave equestrian and ethical investment magazines lying around.
6. Bumper stickers referring to skiing in Aspen, Horse riding in Montana and summers in the Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard;
7. Discrete tattoos on ankles or shoulders in Latin (Where there was no way, we found one). This is a subtle cue that old money will Pick up on : nouveau Riche have yet to find their way but you already arrived;
8. Finally, Sing the praises of your home help who are like your family. They even get to come on vacation with you and clean up after you and cook for you! Ideal family!

EUROPEAN circus.

Do you have any recs? We went to one in Switzerland but it was a bit lame. On second thoughts, that could be ideal since I would prefer DC have low risk path to social glory - no crazy stunts and not many tragically enslaved animals …. Would you advise training as clowns, trapeze artists or animal trainers ? Which would look effortlessly elegant and old European money?

NP here, but clowns are the LMC of the circus world: anyone can get into clown school, as with the trades, and there are no barriers to entry (ergo, not an elite path). Animal trainers are the UMC professionals: elite, difficult work, but not a lot of money relative to the amount of skill it takes to succeed. Might get eaten by a big animal, as UMC professionals are wont be in corporate buyout/mergers and inquisitions games. So that leaves trapeze artists: elegant, can be somewhat cerebral work, requires lots of expensive lessons (and hospital bills!) and potentially better-than-average sense of balance/coordination (developed through those old money genes that were specifically selected to ensure familial ascent in the financial and physical worlds). Won't be easy, so good luck! I'd even suggest starting at a circus in Canada, using it as sort of a finishing school before you audition for the big boy stuff in Europe or the States.

Ooh good advice thank you.

I love that - Canadian Circus Finishing School . They will hopefully be too nice to snark about our klutz gene.

We do have good medical insurance for the trapeze route. And I can custom order beautiful silk scarves for the floaty sky rope dancing numbers .., I do fancy myself as a silk scarf aficionado and now I can out that to noble use.

Cirque du Soleil, her we come …

The PP is correct, but you need to be realistic. Your genes can’t beat Grace Kelly’s + Grimaldi’s, so your kid can’t have the elephant tamers(they were bred for the richest families). This sophisticated piece of European meat is out of your league:


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P.s: The wrist tattoo is advisable.

This is why we will go the Canadian Circus Finishing School route - Canadians are too nice to quash my social climbing ambitions. We will need to remember to work on adding “eh” to the end of sentences and pretending to care about ice hockey. I am sure a few nice silk scarves will cover up any genetic deficiencies.

Precisely. Try to get into a francophone Canadian circus. The Quebecois accent will take some work to get rid of, but simply knowing French will give you that certain je ne sais quoi that new money eats up.

Oui oui
Établie à Montréal, l'organisation canadienne a émerveillé et enchanté plus de 180 millions de spectateurs avec des productions présentées dans 450 villes de 60 pays. Cirque du Soleil Entertainment Group emploie actuellement 4 000 personnes, dont 1 300 artistes, originaires de près de 50 pays.

Mais malgré tout ce succès, le Cirque du Soleil a un écart. Il leur manque une famille d'ascension sociale de DMV qui sait comment agiter des foulards en soie avec noblesse oblige.

Ils doivent avoir le gène klutz pour un effet maximal.

Viva la sobre fabuleusement riche du DMV. Laissez-les manger du gâteau et travaillez-le en dansant avec des foulards en soie.

Nouvelle posteur ici. Je suis entièrement d'accord avec le sage conseil de PP. Je ne suis pas née riche, mais j'ai fréquentée l'école de cirque canadienne et maintenant je suis constamment confuse pour quelqu’une avec les vielles fortunes, surtout quand je m’habille en les foulards en soie.

Et la prime: Les familles DMV recevront des points de plus et des sièges de troisième rangée pour payer les frais de scolarité internationaux.

🧣 🇨🇦 🎪

Les familles d'escalade sociale DMV s'unissent! à l'École canadienne de finition de cirque. nous pouvons transformer le paysage social terne de DC avec d'élégants mouvements de danse flottants et de jolis foulards en soie. oui oui et les cours internationaux gratuits pour nos enfants. que le carnaval de bon goût commence.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought my child’s preschool teacher must have been married to a wealthy guy because she was always dressed to the nines. Turns out she buys all of her clothes from consignment stores and she looks fab. So yes, you can do it if you have an eye for quality.

How someone dresses is no longer a true indicator of their SES.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I hope all the great advice here is helpful for your aspirations:

1. Children should join American circus
2. Wear expensive underaged jewelry but not in MC/ LMC areas where you might get mugged;
3. Don’t name Drop any European fashion designers/ cars etc - Tear charging station in front yard;
4. Try to find a high end American car you can keep for thirty years;
5. Don’t mention that you follow European royals. Leave equestrian and ethical investment magazines lying around.
6. Bumper stickers referring to skiing in Aspen, Horse riding in Montana and summers in the Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard;
7. Discrete tattoos on ankles or shoulders in Latin (Where there was no way, we found one). This is a subtle cue that old money will Pick up on : nouveau Riche have yet to find their way but you already arrived;
8. Finally, Sing the praises of your home help who are like your family. They even get to come on vacation with you and clean up after you and cook for you! Ideal family!

EUROPEAN circus.

Do you have any recs? We went to one in Switzerland but it was a bit lame. On second thoughts, that could be ideal since I would prefer DC have low risk path to social glory - no crazy stunts and not many tragically enslaved animals …. Would you advise training as clowns, trapeze artists or animal trainers ? Which would look effortlessly elegant and old European money?

NP here, but clowns are the LMC of the circus world: anyone can get into clown school, as with the trades, and there are no barriers to entry (ergo, not an elite path). Animal trainers are the UMC professionals: elite, difficult work, but not a lot of money relative to the amount of skill it takes to succeed. Might get eaten by a big animal, as UMC professionals are wont be in corporate buyout/mergers and inquisitions games. So that leaves trapeze artists: elegant, can be somewhat cerebral work, requires lots of expensive lessons (and hospital bills!) and potentially better-than-average sense of balance/coordination (developed through those old money genes that were specifically selected to ensure familial ascent in the financial and physical worlds). Won't be easy, so good luck! I'd even suggest starting at a circus in Canada, using it as sort of a finishing school before you audition for the big boy stuff in Europe or the States.

Ooh good advice thank you.

I love that - Canadian Circus Finishing School . They will hopefully be too nice to snark about our klutz gene.

We do have good medical insurance for the trapeze route. And I can custom order beautiful silk scarves for the floaty sky rope dancing numbers .., I do fancy myself as a silk scarf aficionado and now I can out that to noble use.

Cirque du Soleil, her we come …

The PP is correct, but you need to be realistic. Your genes can’t beat Grace Kelly’s + Grimaldi’s, so your kid can’t have the elephant tamers(they were bred for the richest families). This sophisticated piece of European meat is out of your league:


M
P.s: The wrist tattoo is advisable.

This is why we will go the Canadian Circus Finishing School route - Canadians are too nice to quash my social climbing ambitions. We will need to remember to work on adding “eh” to the end of sentences and pretending to care about ice hockey. I am sure a few nice silk scarves will cover up any genetic deficiencies.

Precisely. Try to get into a francophone Canadian circus. The Quebecois accent will take some work to get rid of, but simply knowing French will give you that certain je ne sais quoi that new money eats up.

Oui oui
Établie à Montréal, l'organisation canadienne a émerveillé et enchanté plus de 180 millions de spectateurs avec des productions présentées dans 450 villes de 60 pays. Cirque du Soleil Entertainment Group emploie actuellement 4 000 personnes, dont 1 300 artistes, originaires de près de 50 pays.

Mais malgré tout ce succès, le Cirque du Soleil a un écart. Il leur manque une famille d'ascension sociale de DMV qui sait comment agiter des foulards en soie avec noblesse oblige.

Ils doivent avoir le gène klutz pour un effet maximal.

Viva la sobre fabuleusement riche du DMV. Laissez-les manger du gâteau et travaillez-le en dansant avec des foulards en soie.

Nouvelle posteur ici. Je suis entièrement d'accord avec le sage conseil de PP. Je ne suis pas née riche, mais j'ai fréquentée l'école de cirque canadienne et maintenant je suis constamment confuse pour quelqu’une avec les vielles fortunes, surtout quand je m’habille en les foulards en soie.

Et la prime: Les familles DMV recevront des points de plus et des sièges de troisième rangée pour payer les frais de scolarité internationaux.

🧣 🇨🇦 🎪

Les familles d'escalade sociale DMV s'unissent! à l'École canadienne de finition de cirque. nous pouvons transformer le paysage social terne de DC avec d'élégants mouvements de danse flottants et de jolis foulards en soie. oui oui et les cours internationaux gratuits pour nos enfants. que le carnaval de bon goût commence.

LOL? (Comment dire “lol” en francaise?)

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Anonymous wrote:I thought my child’s preschool teacher must have been married to a wealthy guy because she was always dressed to the nines. Turns out she buys all of her clothes from consignment stores and she looks fab. So yes, you can do it if you have an eye for quality.

How someone dresses is no longer a true indicator of their SES.

It’s an indicator for their eye for style though.

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Anonymous wrote:OP I hope all the great advice here is helpful for your aspirations:

1. Children should join American circus
2. Wear expensive underaged jewelry but not in MC/ LMC areas where you might get mugged;
3. Don’t name Drop any European fashion designers/ cars etc - Tear charging station in front yard;
4. Try to find a high end American car you can keep for thirty years;
5. Don’t mention that you follow European royals. Leave equestrian and ethical investment magazines lying around.
6. Bumper stickers referring to skiing in Aspen, Horse riding in Montana and summers in the Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard;
7. Discrete tattoos on ankles or shoulders in Latin (Where there was no way, we found one). This is a subtle cue that old money will Pick up on : nouveau Riche have yet to find their way but you already arrived;
8. Finally, Sing the praises of your home help who are like your family. They even get to come on vacation with you and clean up after you and cook for you! Ideal family!

EUROPEAN circus.

Do you have any recs? We went to one in Switzerland but it was a bit lame. On second thoughts, that could be ideal since I would prefer DC have low risk path to social glory - no crazy stunts and not many tragically enslaved animals …. Would you advise training as clowns, trapeze artists or animal trainers ? Which would look effortlessly elegant and old European money?

NP here, but clowns are the LMC of the circus world: anyone can get into clown school, as with the trades, and there are no barriers to entry (ergo, not an elite path). Animal trainers are the UMC professionals: elite, difficult work, but not a lot of money relative to the amount of skill it takes to succeed. Might get eaten by a big animal, as UMC professionals are wont be in corporate buyout/mergers and inquisitions games. So that leaves trapeze artists: elegant, can be somewhat cerebral work, requires lots of expensive lessons (and hospital bills!) and potentially better-than-average sense of balance/coordination (developed through those old money genes that were specifically selected to ensure familial ascent in the financial and physical worlds). Won't be easy, so good luck! I'd even suggest starting at a circus in Canada, using it as sort of a finishing school before you audition for the big boy stuff in Europe or the States.

Ooh good advice thank you.

I love that - Canadian Circus Finishing School . They will hopefully be too nice to snark about our klutz gene.

We do have good medical insurance for the trapeze route. And I can custom order beautiful silk scarves for the floaty sky rope dancing numbers .., I do fancy myself as a silk scarf aficionado and now I can out that to noble use.

Cirque du Soleil, her we come …

The PP is correct, but you need to be realistic. Your genes can’t beat Grace Kelly’s + Grimaldi’s, so your kid can’t have the elephant tamers(they were bred for the richest families). This sophisticated piece of European meat is out of your league:


M
P.s: The wrist tattoo is advisable.

This is why we will go the Canadian Circus Finishing School route - Canadians are too nice to quash my social climbing ambitions. We will need to remember to work on adding “eh” to the end of sentences and pretending to care about ice hockey. I am sure a few nice silk scarves will cover up any genetic deficiencies.

Precisely. Try to get into a francophone Canadian circus. The Quebecois accent will take some work to get rid of, but simply knowing French will give you that certain je ne sais quoi that new money eats up.

Oui oui
Établie à Montréal, l'organisation canadienne a émerveillé et enchanté plus de 180 millions de spectateurs avec des productions présentées dans 450 villes de 60 pays. Cirque du Soleil Entertainment Group emploie actuellement 4 000 personnes, dont 1 300 artistes, originaires de près de 50 pays.

Mais malgré tout ce succès, le Cirque du Soleil a un écart. Il leur manque une famille d'ascension sociale de DMV qui sait comment agiter des foulards en soie avec noblesse oblige.

Ils doivent avoir le gène klutz pour un effet maximal.

Viva la sobre fabuleusement riche du DMV. Laissez-les manger du gâteau et travaillez-le en dansant avec des foulards en soie.

Nouvelle posteur ici. Je suis entièrement d'accord avec le sage conseil de PP. Je ne suis pas née riche, mais j'ai fréquentée l'école de cirque canadienne et maintenant je suis constamment confuse pour quelqu’une avec les vielles fortunes, surtout quand je m’habille en les foulards en soie.

Et la prime: Les familles DMV recevront des points de plus et des sièges de troisième rangée pour payer les frais de scolarité internationaux.

🧣 🇨🇦 🎪

Les familles d'escalade sociale DMV s'unissent! à l'École canadienne de finition de cirque. nous pouvons transformer le paysage social terne de DC avec d'élégants mouvements de danse flottants et de jolis foulards en soie. oui oui et les cours internationaux gratuits pour nos enfants. que le carnaval de bon goût commence.

LOL? (Comment dire “lol” en francaise?)

On dit "MDR"

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Anonymous wrote:OP I hope all the great advice here is helpful for your aspirations:

1. Children should join American circus
2. Wear expensive underaged jewelry but not in MC/ LMC areas where you might get mugged;
3. Don’t name Drop any European fashion designers/ cars etc - Tear charging station in front yard;
4. Try to find a high end American car you can keep for thirty years;
5. Don’t mention that you follow European royals. Leave equestrian and ethical investment magazines lying around.
6. Bumper stickers referring to skiing in Aspen, Horse riding in Montana and summers in the Hamptons or Martha’s Vineyard;
7. Discrete tattoos on ankles or shoulders in Latin (Where there was no way, we found one). This is a subtle cue that old money will Pick up on : nouveau Riche have yet to find their way but you already arrived;
8. Finally, Sing the praises of your home help who are like your family. They even get to come on vacation with you and clean up after you and cook for you! Ideal family!

EUROPEAN circus.

Do you have any recs? We went to one in Switzerland but it was a bit lame. On second thoughts, that could be ideal since I would prefer DC have low risk path to social glory - no crazy stunts and not many tragically enslaved animals …. Would you advise training as clowns, trapeze artists or animal trainers ? Which would look effortlessly elegant and old European money?

NP here, but clowns are the LMC of the circus world: anyone can get into clown school, as with the trades, and there are no barriers to entry (ergo, not an elite path). Animal trainers are the UMC professionals: elite, difficult work, but not a lot of money relative to the amount of skill it takes to succeed. Might get eaten by a big animal, as UMC professionals are wont be in corporate buyout/mergers and inquisitions games. So that leaves trapeze artists: elegant, can be somewhat cerebral work, requires lots of expensive lessons (and hospital bills!) and potentially better-than-average sense of balance/coordination (developed through those old money genes that were specifically selected to ensure familial ascent in the financial and physical worlds). Won't be easy, so good luck! I'd even suggest starting at a circus in Canada, using it as sort of a finishing school before you audition for the big boy stuff in Europe or the States.

Ooh good advice thank you.

I love that - Canadian Circus Finishing School . They will hopefully be too nice to snark about our klutz gene.

We do have good medical insurance for the trapeze route. And I can custom order beautiful silk scarves for the floaty sky rope dancing numbers .., I do fancy myself as a silk scarf aficionado and now I can out that to noble use.

Cirque du Soleil, her we come …

The PP is correct, but you need to be realistic. Your genes can’t beat Grace Kelly’s + Grimaldi’s, so your kid can’t have the elephant tamers(they were bred for the richest families). This sophisticated piece of European meat is out of your league:


M
P.s: The wrist tattoo is advisable.

This is why we will go the Canadian Circus Finishing School route - Canadians are too nice to quash my social climbing ambitions. We will need to remember to work on adding “eh” to the end of sentences and pretending to care about ice hockey. I am sure a few nice silk scarves will cover up any genetic deficiencies.

Precisely. Try to get into a francophone Canadian circus. The Quebecois accent will take some work to get rid of, but simply knowing French will give you that certain je ne sais quoi that new money eats up.

Oui oui
Établie à Montréal, l'organisation canadienne a émerveillé et enchanté plus de 180 millions de spectateurs avec des productions présentées dans 450 villes de 60 pays. Cirque du Soleil Entertainment Group emploie actuellement 4 000 personnes, dont 1 300 artistes, originaires de près de 50 pays.

Mais malgré tout ce succès, le Cirque du Soleil a un écart. Il leur manque une famille d'ascension sociale de DMV qui sait comment agiter des foulards en soie avec noblesse oblige.

Ils doivent avoir le gène klutz pour un effet maximal.

Viva la sobre fabuleusement riche du DMV. Laissez-les manger du gâteau et travaillez-le en dansant avec des foulards en soie.

Nouvelle posteur ici. Je suis entièrement d'accord avec le sage conseil de PP. Je ne suis pas née riche, mais j'ai fréquentée l'école de cirque canadienne et maintenant je suis constamment confuse pour quelqu’une avec les vielles fortunes, surtout quand je m’habille en les foulards en soie.

Et la prime: Les familles DMV recevront des points de plus et des sièges de troisième rangée pour payer les frais de scolarité internationaux.

🧣 🇨🇦 🎪

Les familles d'escalade sociale DMV s'unissent! à l'École canadienne de finition de cirque. nous pouvons transformer le paysage social terne de DC avec d'élégants mouvements de danse flottants et de jolis foulards en soie. oui oui et les cours internationaux gratuits pour nos enfants. que le carnaval de bon goût commence.

LOL? (Comment dire “lol” en francaise?)

On dit "MDR"

+1
mort de rire

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Anonymous wrote:No, wearing a sweater and jeans just looks different when you are standing in the garden of your family compound.

This x1000

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think so tbh. You could hire a stylist to help with clothing though. The internal bit of being deeply, generationally wealthy - entirely financially secure - way down into you genes is not something you can acquire.

I agree with this. I think the reason people are obsessed with looking wealthy (on this board and just in general) is because we see rich people and want to feel like that -- truly secure in your well being, and the well bing of your kids if you have them. It's not exactly confidence (though it might also be that) -- there are poor people who are confident. It's that sense of security.

I saw a woman the other day who embodied that super understated rich person vibe. Her clothes were not showy at all -- a good quality raincoat from LL Bean or similar, nice straight cut jeans that were flattering and fit well and likely from a luxury brand, but no obvious branding or identifying marks. No socks, and good quality leather loafers -- they looked like they were from M.Gemi or similar but again, no obvious branding. She had long hair with a center part, it was healthy with a good cut but not styled. No makeup. Non-descript tote bag.

I could recreate her entire look tomorrow and it wouldn't even be unattainable for me financially. All in, it's probably less than 1k, including the haircut (excluding the jewelry, but again, it was so understated I don't even remember what it was -- probably a simple wedding band and some diamond studs). And I still wouldn't feel wealthy. I wouldn't even feel fashionable or pretty because there is nothing fashionable about this outfit. The reason this woman wore it well and it conveyed wealth is the WAY she wore it -- secure in the knowledge that she doesn't need to impress anyone with her clothes or style, that she can just wear good quality items that are comfortable and last, and it won't matter to her one way or the other if people like it or not.

That's it. Security. If you are trying to figure out how to "look wealthy" you are by definition insecure (and I don't mean that in an insulting way, I mean that in a descriptive way -- most of us are insecure in some way, financially or emotionally, and it's often not really our fault) and can't achieve it.

Yes and no.

I know someone who was raised very middle class, but her mother went to great lengths to dress upper class in an understated way. That was largely influenced by their super wealthy relatives. As an adult, she married well. She dresses a certain way and carries herself as though she’s old money. She even appears better put together/more old money than her old money cousins (who are ooooooolllllldddd money with a family name many might recognize).

So, yes, you can dress a certain way and carry yourself with an elegance that will likely bring you confidence and respect.

Let's be clear about one thing. The USA is a new country. There is no Old Money here. If an American recognizes a name, that person cannot be Old Money. But I grant you that they're less New Money than people who accrued wealth with crypto

- European aristocrat.

I believe that. And I have a bridge to sell you with your old money. Since you don’t really need it and all.