If I'm going to be looking at her for many years to come, looks matter. |
| If you yourself aren't moral and ambitious or have personal/family baggage then of course looks and fun are enough. |
Yes but any average person can look pretty now at a reasonable cost. What does it matter if they got genetic lottery or not. |
And how would you know if it’s natural or acquired? |
Ah, anyone who disagrees with you that men should value what you want us to value, should avert our eyes from the radiance of your resume perhaps, is immoral. Got it. |
Resume and morality has its importance, for you and for your children. |
| I would rather have my children an average looking, moral and successful parent from a decent family than a hot mom with convenient morals, baggage and debt. |
*mom or dad |
| Looks and fun have value but you can’t base a long term relationship otherwise good looking people would not have unhappy marriages or divorces. |
Why isn’t triggering you? Why are you against morals and accomplishments? |
| * is it |
"Triggered"? I'm a guy killing time responding to a question asked of men. You are not. Why are _you_ posting? And based on a good marriage, with a a good woman I'm glad I spent years with, a good relationship has nothing to do with her accomplishments, or her family, or the church she goes to, or the details of her job, or her income. And most people are good people; immorality doesn't enter into it. |
first, women might have some insight but even that is very limited. you are not a man, and you have no idea what a man thinks. second, women do the same thing - there are plenty of suitors who are invisible to women. women want that hot bad boy, the hot musician who lives out of his car, etc. - good for a romp in the sack? yes. marriage material? no. |
| What’s ideal dating material vs ideal marriage material? |
Yes those are at the top of the list. Without the basics you can't go forward. |