I want transparency and accountability from UVA

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not just meeting or exceeding the 75th percentile. Course rigor compared to that of your classmates is extremely important.

I wish SCHEV had a section on Echols Scholars. That process is opaque IMO.

Straight-forward GPA

Not true. My DS had a crazy high GPA, top 7 in his class out of 400 and he didn't get Echols. Only one of the 11 kids who got in got Echols and it was our salutatorian, not our valedictorian who also attends UVA so by definition, they have a higher GPA.

Perhaps the valedictorian was not in the College of Arts & Science? My DS was valedictorian but went engineering so never got a shot at Echols

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Anonymous wrote:I want a pony.

Lol! I like you!

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Anonymous wrote:This is what we foreigners have been saying for years, OP. In the rest of the world, there is a formula, or at least much more of one than here. You have the grades, you get in, is what it essentially boils down to.

Here admissions committees are allowed to be racist, discriminatory, and they openly favor children of alumni, children of billionaire donors, and children with no particular academic strength who happen to be good at sports.

It's disgusting, and yet, the brain-washed American people continue to believe it's a great "holistic" system and they beggar themselves or their children to get in, instead of voting for politicians who might make university low-cost, like in other developed countries.

You have this backward. Kind of completely. Holistic allows in more URMs. A numbers game and the school would be 100% Asian and White. That is the racist system. As for the other things you mention -- if you think kids of the rich and powerful are not getting into European Universities because they tested low or had low grades you are crazy.

So ignorant and offensive to claim not a single URM can get into UVA without a preferential treatment. Anyway, it should be up to Virginia voters to decide if they want their public universities to discriminate on any basis other than academic achievement.

Thanks for pointing the bolded out out. My black kid is above the 75th percentile for grades and SAT, and certainly is not the only one.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

Sounds like what you really want is a guarantee that your kid gets into UVA. Here's a cheaper, faster, more practical solution: open your mindset to seeing success at many VA colleges. Trust that your kid is capable enough to be successful wherever he or she goes!

It's liberating when you expand the number of acceptable pathways!

+1

There is an admissions guarantee at UVA, but as PP have pointed out, a lot of people won't even consider it worthy of their kid. They list courses and grades needed for guaranteed admission.

https://admission.virginia.edu/transfer/guaranteed-transfer-admission

Yes! Secret is out!

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

This is not the way any college selects students. Why would you want that. There is no formula.

UT is required to do just that by state law. Virginia could impose the same standards on state schools if they choose to

I was about to say the same. Top ten percent gpa in Texas gets you in.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

This is not the way any college selects students. Why would you want that. There is no formula.

UT is required to do just that by state law. Virginia could impose the same standards on state schools if they choose to

The state law was passed after the UT affirmative action admissions system was struck down by the Supreme Court. It was an attempt to provide greater diversity in admissions, and there still seems to be support for the approach. The law allows for automatic admissions to the top 6% or so (or higher in certain majors) from each public high school.

If you translated the Texas law to Virginia, what you could see is that automatic admissions top 6% or so regardless of whether the applicant is from Langley in NoVa or 70% Black Lake Taylor High in Norfolk.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the rigor that kills me most. Top 5% at Langley is what a 4.8 and 15 APs? But if you’re in rural western Virginia, a 4.0 and 3 APs will do it? The FCPS curriculum is the same so it seems beneficial to go to the lowest performing high school with the bonus of cheaper housing.

Yes, you should move to West Virginia -tgat eoukd also give your student geographical diversity. That being said some 600 students get in from NOVA each year whike some counties in southwestern Virginia send only one or zero. The breakdown by county is in Dean J’s blog

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So many nova insecurities and jealousies and cruelties on display here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

. You know UVa used to have a photo on the application and yes, the student body had disproportionately large blue eyes and post-braces jaws. It was tax-payer funded for in-state tuition, so UVa has had enough power to tax everyone so that only the above-average looking could get to attend Mr. Jefferson's University.

You would think the alumni would be better looking. Lol

Perhaps this was true at one time, but it certainly doesn't seem to be the case based on appearances now.

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It would not be unreasonable for the state to look into expanding class size at UVA. And some other state schools too. Some more seats would help reduce this entitled rage among suburban parents, and the school could still remain as elite as it wants to be.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

. You know UVa used to have a photo on the application and yes, the student body had disproportionately large blue eyes and post-braces jaws. It was tax-payer funded for in-state tuition, so UVa has had enough power to tax everyone so that only the above-average looking could get to attend Mr. Jefferson's University.

You would think the alumni would be better looking. Lol

Perhaps this was true at one time, but it certainly doesn't seem to be the case based on appearances now.

Nobody said blue-eyed is what ages well.

[Anonymous]

The dean's dog wishes you well and is sure you'll thrive at George Mason, Radford....

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't work that way anymore. It used to. When I grew up in CA there was a formula that guaranteed you admission to UC schools. That's not true now.

It’s never worked at UVA. I was wait listed the sane year Scalia’s son was rejected back in the late 80s.

I had straight As, was #10 rank in a Ffx Co school of 550 in my grade. I was a class officer, played a Varsity sport all 4 years which won the VA State champ., had a ton of other ECs and great recs.

We were told back then there was a quota from NoVA.

Eugene Scalia did attend UVA and graduated in 1985. Christopher Scalia teachers there. There are three other sons.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t want Dean J’s cute little videos about their holistic approach and how they want to see this and that from a student. I don’t need dean j at all. For in state admissions I want a formula. Kid took these classes, got these grades, got that SAT, then guaranteed admission to UVA or WM or Vtech or whatever other VA state school, end of story. Otherwise you are not getting my tax dollars.

College admissions are an art not a science. It changes every year. Nothing is guaranteed. Roll the dice, you get what you get. Get back in your cage Tiger Mom.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the rigor that kills me most. Top 5% at Langley is what a 4.8 and 15 APs? But if you’re in rural western Virginia, a 4.0 and 3 APs will do it? The FCPS curriculum is the same so it seems beneficial to go to the lowest performing high school with the bonus of cheaper housing.

Yes, you should move to West Virginia -tgat eoukd also give your student geographical diversity. That being said some 600 students get in from NOVA each year whike some counties in southwestern Virginia send only one or zero. The breakdown by county is in Dean J’s blog

I know someone who sent their DC to a mediocre private religious school in the Virginia mountains in a county with few college applicants. SAT were 1300's. DC got accepted into W&M and UVA. That's how to do it. The mountains are calling.....