Professional couples are on the rise, but it’s not increasing income inequality

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Anonymous wrote:I love how those nuts bring teen pregnancy rates in discussion. Teen pregnancy rates are at a historic lows and represent a minuscule number of live births. I'm more concerned about the SAH, religious breeders who keep popping tons of kids until their uterus is at their knees. Those are the problem, not successful single moms.

Why do these successful single women need to pop out a kid at all? Why not be happy and childless? Why not be happy with their career? Why choose loser men to have children with?

maybe they want a kid? Maybe they don't want a or need a man telling them what to do? There are tons of reasons.

Exactly - why are we policing women's bodies/fertility/happiness?

No one is policing anyone. There was a single mom or moms who acted superior to married.

I am married with 3 kids. My kids are well liked and have a lot of friends. I will happily include their friends from any family background.

Dh is an amazing dad and provider. To insult him and me because we are married is ridiculous.

I think part of your bias/baggage is asserting that someone is "acting superior" ipso facto because she is happy and successful in a life different than yours.

Ding ding ding. This poster takes everything as a personal attack.

Yes. I'm happily married, we're both trust funders, we make a great income and I DNGAF about what other women do and I don't feel superior because I'm married or because my grandfather made a lot of money for us. It was just luck that I found a great guy in college and that I was born in the right family, not some special skill.
I have the single friend who did IVF at 43, I have gay couple friends who adopted an infant girl addicted to opioids prior to the marriage equality law, one woman who has a kid with a rich married man and doesn't work anymore. I'm not superior to any of them just because I have a marriage certificate. I'm European and this whole American obsession with marriage is a relic from the 50s. It's just a sham so that the SAHMs can collect social security.

I’m pp. a pp single mom was boasting that she earned 300k and she didn’t have to deal with a husband.

I don’t think her position is enviable. That is all.

Really? I certainly think it is enviable.

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DP here. We live in McLean and I have a kid at Cooper. We live in an expensive neighborhood. Our house is $3m and most of the areas in our immediate neighborhood around Cooper/Langley are $2-5m.

I do not know any single moms. I do know several divorced and blended families. Dad is in the picture and we usually have a relationship with both parents. I usually text or email both the mom and dad when making plans or coordinating with the kids.

And we know plenty of high earning women. I used to be a high earning mom but I am now a sahm with 3 kids. Dh recently reminded me that I spend 10-20k on my Amex every month. I spend more now than when I actually worked.

I know there are mothers by choice but I don’t personally know any in our friend circles. In preschool, we knew one mom who was single. I never knew or asked where the dad was but she was a true single mom. She eventually moved to be closer to her family.

Please share what you spend 10-12k on monthly in McLean, I for one am enjoying these details and find them relevant.

We spend a lot on travel. Winter break was probably 20k. I just booked spring break and one summer camp for each kid.

I also just signed up my kids for spring sports and it cost a few grand each kid.

Trying to figure out our summer plans. We will travel half. Friend just sent us a camp that costs $5k.

We eat high quality foods so probably spend 2-3k on food. It all adds up.

This is so pathetic new money.

Obvi plastic surgery, laser hair removal, vaginal tightening, PRP injections, fillers, cool sculpting, , Marie Kondo/Home Edit-y thingies, etc.

How would old money spend money?

Do old money kids not travel or play sports?

Old money does not waste money. I face mmm have some family with new money; they RARELY travel and their kids do not do expensive activities.

You are wasting a ton per month that could be invested.

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DP here. We live in McLean and I have a kid at Cooper. We live in an expensive neighborhood. Our house is $3m and most of the areas in our immediate neighborhood around Cooper/Langley are $2-5m.

I do not know any single moms. I do know several divorced and blended families. Dad is in the picture and we usually have a relationship with both parents. I usually text or email both the mom and dad when making plans or coordinating with the kids.

And we know plenty of high earning women. I used to be a high earning mom but I am now a sahm with 3 kids. Dh recently reminded me that I spend 10-20k on my Amex every month. I spend more now than when I actually worked.

I know there are mothers by choice but I don’t personally know any in our friend circles. In preschool, we knew one mom who was single. I never knew or asked where the dad was but she was a true single mom. She eventually moved to be closer to her family.

Please share what you spend 10-12k on monthly in McLean, I for one am enjoying these details and find them relevant.

We spend a lot on travel. Winter break was probably 20k. I just booked spring break and one summer camp for each kid.

I also just signed up my kids for spring sports and it cost a few grand each kid.

Trying to figure out our summer plans. We will travel half. Friend just sent us a camp that costs $5k.

We eat high quality foods so probably spend 2-3k on food. It all adds up.

This is so pathetic new money.

Obvi plastic surgery, laser hair removal, vaginal tightening, PRP injections, fillers, cool sculpting, , Marie Kondo/Home Edit-y thingies, etc.

How would old money spend money?

Do old money kids not travel or play sports?

We do, but we don't say omg I'm spending 3K on quality foods every month. It's kind of a given and it's not truly 3K, unless one has a ton of kids. To me, it means that you were not raised on quality foods. Also, the vacations are a give away. We barely spend $ on vacations, because we have a house in Breckenridge and my ILs have a huge house in Sanibel. When we go to Europe we stay at my brother's place in Paris or in Greece.
And I disagree about the plastic surgery part. My mom and her friends all have facelifts, the 85K ones that don't look like facelifts, and they leave some wrinkles for "character". No need for lipo or cool sculpting, because they don't eat. Carolina Herrera is their goddess.

Who would actually talk about their Amex bill in real life and tell someone how much they spend on food?

My kids eat a lot. We love food. It is very much a part of our lives. They eat a ton, are very active and all stick thin. Luckily I am naturally thin and I also enjoy working out. My mom is obsessed with healthy eating so you are wrong there.

We have a lot of friends with old money, new money and no money. We don’t pick our friends on their financial status.

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I haven’t read all the responses but my thought is inflation. So wages are stagnant and now women can get high paying jobs but inequality isn’t rising because they are now just middle class despite their college degrees.

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DP here. We live in McLean and I have a kid at Cooper. We live in an expensive neighborhood. Our house is $3m and most of the areas in our immediate neighborhood around Cooper/Langley are $2-5m.

I do not know any single moms. I do know several divorced and blended families. Dad is in the picture and we usually have a relationship with both parents. I usually text or email both the mom and dad when making plans or coordinating with the kids.

And we know plenty of high earning women. I used to be a high earning mom but I am now a sahm with 3 kids. Dh recently reminded me that I spend 10-20k on my Amex every month. I spend more now than when I actually worked.

I know there are mothers by choice but I don’t personally know any in our friend circles. In preschool, we knew one mom who was single. I never knew or asked where the dad was but she was a true single mom. She eventually moved to be closer to her family.

Please share what you spend 10-12k on monthly in McLean, I for one am enjoying these details and find them relevant.

We spend a lot on travel. Winter break was probably 20k. I just booked spring break and one summer camp for each kid.

I also just signed up my kids for spring sports and it cost a few grand each kid.

Trying to figure out our summer plans. We will travel half. Friend just sent us a camp that costs $5k.

We eat high quality foods so probably spend 2-3k on food. It all adds up.

This is so pathetic new money.

Obvi plastic surgery, laser hair removal, vaginal tightening, PRP injections, fillers, cool sculpting, , Marie Kondo/Home Edit-y thingies, etc.

How would old money spend money?

Do old money kids not travel or play sports?

We do, but we don't say omg I'm spending 3K on quality foods every month. It's kind of a given and it's not truly 3K, unless one has a ton of kids. To me, it means that you were not raised on quality foods. Also, the vacations are a give away. We barely spend $ on vacations, because we have a house in Breckenridge and my ILs have a huge house in Sanibel. When we go to Europe we stay at my brother's place in Paris or in Greece.
And I disagree about the plastic surgery part. My mom and her friends all have facelifts, the 85K ones that don't look like facelifts, and they leave some wrinkles for "character". No need for lipo or cool sculpting, because they don't eat. Carolina Herrera is their goddess.

Who would actually talk about their Amex bill in real life and tell someone how much they spend on food?

My kids eat a lot. We love food. It is very much a part of our lives. They eat a ton, are very active and all stick thin. Luckily I am naturally thin and I also enjoy working out. My mom is obsessed with healthy eating so you are wrong there.

We have a lot of friends with old money, new money and no money. We don’t pick our friends on their financial status.

🤣 this is peak DCUM

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Anonymous wrote:What a bizarre final comment you make about marriage. How does being alone help women??

Well, as a single mom making $300, I can guarantee I have far less arguments about how I’m spending my money or child raising decisions than 99.9% of married people. (Not, op).

Well, I certainly don't want the tragic life of raising a kid in a single family. I am in a happy marriage with a man who is a great dad. I could never imagine depriving my child of his dad. I also have the security that if some thing happens to me, my children still have my husband. Maybe you chose a loser to father your child.

Your anecdata about financial issues with a partner speaks volumes about the kind of family you were raised in. Sorry, but many people were not raised in dysfunctional families.

There is nothing tragic about a child being raised by a single mother.

What a disgusting misogynistic comment.

NP raised by a single mother; it is completely tragic to be raised by a single mother. Life goes on, but it's NOT an ideal, and functional, intact families are far superior.

Im raised by a single mother as well and strongly disagree with you.

Speak for yourself.

Functional intact families are subjective. And it’s obvious your idea comes from white American conservative misogynistic men.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how those nuts bring teen pregnancy rates in discussion. Teen pregnancy rates are at a historic lows and represent a minuscule number of live births. I'm more concerned about the SAH, religious breeders who keep popping tons of kids until their uterus is at their knees. Those are the problem, not successful single moms.

Why do these successful single women need to pop out a kid at all? Why not be happy and childless? Why not be happy with their career? Why choose loser men to have children with?

maybe they want a kid? Maybe they don't want a or need a man telling them what to do? There are tons of reasons.

Exactly - why are we policing women's bodies/fertility/happiness?

No one is policing anyone. There was a single mom or moms who acted superior to married.

I am married with 3 kids. My kids are well liked and have a lot of friends. I will happily include their friends from any family background.

Dh is an amazing dad and provider. To insult him and me because we are married is ridiculous.

I think part of your bias/baggage is asserting that someone is "acting superior" ipso facto because she is happy and successful in a life different than yours.

Ding ding ding. This poster takes everything as a personal attack.

Yes. I'm happily married, we're both trust funders, we make a great income and I DNGAF about what other women do and I don't feel superior because I'm married or because my grandfather made a lot of money for us. It was just luck that I found a great guy in college and that I was born in the right family, not some special skill.
I have the single friend who did IVF at 43, I have gay couple friends who adopted an infant girl addicted to opioids prior to the marriage equality law, one woman who has a kid with a rich married man and doesn't work anymore. I'm not superior to any of them just because I have a marriage certificate. I'm European and this whole American obsession with marriage is a relic from the 50s. It's just a sham so that the SAHMs can collect social security.

The obsession with marriage is so silly. There are so many unhappy married people.

I hate that women are fighting and degrading one another regarding this subject.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read all the responses but my thought is inflation. So wages are stagnant and now women can get high paying jobs but inequality isn’t rising because they are now just middle class despite their college degrees.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how those nuts bring teen pregnancy rates in discussion. Teen pregnancy rates are at a historic lows and represent a minuscule number of live births. I'm more concerned about the SAH, religious breeders who keep popping tons of kids until their uterus is at their knees. Those are the problem, not successful single moms.

Why do these successful single women need to pop out a kid at all? Why not be happy and childless? Why not be happy with their career? Why choose loser men to have children with?

maybe they want a kid? Maybe they don't want a or need a man telling them what to do? There are tons of reasons.

Exactly - why are we policing women's bodies/fertility/happiness?

No one is policing anyone. There was a single mom or moms who acted superior to married.

I am married with 3 kids. My kids are well liked and have a lot of friends. I will happily include their friends from any family background.

Dh is an amazing dad and provider. To insult him and me because we are married is ridiculous.

I think part of your bias/baggage is asserting that someone is "acting superior" ipso facto because she is happy and successful in a life different than yours.

Ding ding ding. This poster takes everything as a personal attack.

Yes. I'm happily married, we're both trust funders, we make a great income and I DNGAF about what other women do and I don't feel superior because I'm married or because my grandfather made a lot of money for us. It was just luck that I found a great guy in college and that I was born in the right family, not some special skill.
I have the single friend who did IVF at 43, I have gay couple friends who adopted an infant girl addicted to opioids prior to the marriage equality law, one woman who has a kid with a rich married man and doesn't work anymore. I'm not superior to any of them just because I have a marriage certificate. I'm European and this whole American obsession with marriage is a relic from the 50s. It's just a sham so that the SAHMs can collect social security.

The obsession with marriage is so silly. There are so many unhappy married people.

I hate that women are fighting and degrading one another regarding this subject.

NP, but it was clear that the single mother was acting superior, as if her dysfunctional inability to make decisions with someone else is a gift. And what is silly is everyone else pretending like there are no downsides for the child.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read all the responses but my thought is inflation. So wages are stagnant and now women can get high paying jobs but inequality isn’t rising because they are now just middle class despite their college degrees.

This.

Perhaps the inflation is driven by the large increase in HHI driven by this demographic labor shift.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how those nuts bring teen pregnancy rates in discussion. Teen pregnancy rates are at a historic lows and represent a minuscule number of live births. I'm more concerned about the SAH, religious breeders who keep popping tons of kids until their uterus is at their knees. Those are the problem, not successful single moms.

Why do these successful single women need to pop out a kid at all? Why not be happy and childless? Why not be happy with their career? Why choose loser men to have children with?

maybe they want a kid? Maybe they don't want a or need a man telling them what to do? There are tons of reasons.

Exactly - why are we policing women's bodies/fertility/happiness?

No one is policing anyone. There was a single mom or moms who acted superior to married.

I am married with 3 kids. My kids are well liked and have a lot of friends. I will happily include their friends from any family background.

Dh is an amazing dad and provider. To insult him and me because we are married is ridiculous.

I think part of your bias/baggage is asserting that someone is "acting superior" ipso facto because she is happy and successful in a life different than yours.

Ding ding ding. This poster takes everything as a personal attack.

Yes. I'm happily married, we're both trust funders, we make a great income and I DNGAF about what other women do and I don't feel superior because I'm married or because my grandfather made a lot of money for us. It was just luck that I found a great guy in college and that I was born in the right family, not some special skill.
I have the single friend who did IVF at 43, I have gay couple friends who adopted an infant girl addicted to opioids prior to the marriage equality law, one woman who has a kid with a rich married man and doesn't work anymore. I'm not superior to any of them just because I have a marriage certificate. I'm European and this whole American obsession with marriage is a relic from the 50s. It's just a sham so that the SAHMs can collect social security.

The obsession with marriage is so silly. There are so many unhappy married people.

I hate that women are fighting and degrading one another regarding this subject.

NP, but it was clear that the single mother was acting superior, as if her dysfunctional inability to make decisions with someone else is a gift. And what is silly is everyone else pretending like there are no downsides for the child.

Nutty take, "NP."

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read all the responses but my thought is inflation. So wages are stagnant and now women can get high paying jobs but inequality isn’t rising because they are now just middle class despite their college degrees.

The article points out that many men made a good salary doing blue collar jobs and then making Forman was like Middle-management but it’s not like that anymore.

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Any parent who has a SAHM or SAHD at home peacefully holding the fort can climb corporate ladder faster than ones who are juggling other demands. If one of you is less ambitious or one has higher opportunity to earn more, it makes sense to reevaluate your strategy of being a 50/50 partner in everything, you can divide and conquer.

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DP here. We live in McLean and I have a kid at Cooper. We live in an expensive neighborhood. Our house is $3m and most of the areas in our immediate neighborhood around Cooper/Langley are $2-5m.

I do not know any single moms. I do know several divorced and blended families. Dad is in the picture and we usually have a relationship with both parents. I usually text or email both the mom and dad when making plans or coordinating with the kids.

And we know plenty of high earning women. I used to be a high earning mom but I am now a sahm with 3 kids. Dh recently reminded me that I spend 10-20k on my Amex every month. I spend more now than when I actually worked.

I know there are mothers by choice but I don’t personally know any in our friend circles. In preschool, we knew one mom who was single. I never knew or asked where the dad was but she was a true single mom. She eventually moved to be closer to her family.

Please share what you spend 10-12k on monthly in McLean, I for one am enjoying these details and find them relevant.

We spend a lot on travel. Winter break was probably 20k. I just booked spring break and one summer camp for each kid.

I also just signed up my kids for spring sports and it cost a few grand each kid.

Trying to figure out our summer plans. We will travel half. Friend just sent us a camp that costs $5k.

We eat high quality foods so probably spend 2-3k on food. It all adds up.

This is so pathetic new money.

Obvi plastic surgery, laser hair removal, vaginal tightening, PRP injections, fillers, cool sculpting, , Marie Kondo/Home Edit-y thingies, etc.

How would old money spend money?

Do old money kids not travel or play sports?

We do, but we don't say omg I'm spending 3K on quality foods every month. It's kind of a given and it's not truly 3K, unless one has a ton of kids. To me, it means that you were not raised on quality foods. Also, the vacations are a give away. We barely spend $ on vacations, because we have a house in Breckenridge and my ILs have a huge house in Sanibel. When we go to Europe we stay at my brother's place in Paris or in Greece.
And I disagree about the plastic surgery part. My mom and her friends all have facelifts, the 85K ones that don't look like facelifts, and they leave some wrinkles for "character". No need for lipo or cool sculpting, because they don't eat. Carolina Herrera is their goddess.

Who would actually talk about their Amex bill in real life and tell someone how much they spend on food?

My kids eat a lot. We love food. It is very much a part of our lives. They eat a ton, are very active and all stick thin. Luckily I am naturally thin and I also enjoy working out. My mom is obsessed with healthy eating so you are wrong there.

We have a lot of friends with old money, new money and no money. We don’t pick our friends on their financial status.

Of course not, it's so gauche. Also at home. "Brayden/Harper/Avery/Connor, take another bite of this halibut, it was $29.99/lb.! OMG, we can afford eat halibut! Yay!!!'

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DP here. We live in McLean and I have a kid at Cooper. We live in an expensive neighborhood. Our house is $3m and most of the areas in our immediate neighborhood around Cooper/Langley are $2-5m.

I do not know any single moms. I do know several divorced and blended families. Dad is in the picture and we usually have a relationship with both parents. I usually text or email both the mom and dad when making plans or coordinating with the kids.

And we know plenty of high earning women. I used to be a high earning mom but I am now a sahm with 3 kids. Dh recently reminded me that I spend 10-20k on my Amex every month. I spend more now than when I actually worked.

I know there are mothers by choice but I don’t personally know any in our friend circles. In preschool, we knew one mom who was single. I never knew or asked where the dad was but she was a true single mom. She eventually moved to be closer to her family.

Please share what you spend 10-12k on monthly in McLean, I for one am enjoying these details and find them relevant.

We spend a lot on travel. Winter break was probably 20k. I just booked spring break and one summer camp for each kid.

I also just signed up my kids for spring sports and it cost a few grand each kid.

Trying to figure out our summer plans. We will travel half. Friend just sent us a camp that costs $5k.

We eat high quality foods so probably spend 2-3k on food. It all adds up.

This is so pathetic new money.

Obvi plastic surgery, laser hair removal, vaginal tightening, PRP injections, fillers, cool sculpting, , Marie Kondo/Home Edit-y thingies, etc.

How would old money spend money?

Do old money kids not travel or play sports?

We do, but we don't say omg I'm spending 3K on quality foods every month. It's kind of a given and it's not truly 3K, unless one has a ton of kids. To me, it means that you were not raised on quality foods. Also, the vacations are a give away. We barely spend $ on vacations, because we have a house in Breckenridge and my ILs have a huge house in Sanibel. When we go to Europe we stay at my brother's place in Paris or in Greece.
And I disagree about the plastic surgery part. My mom and her friends all have facelifts, the 85K ones that don't look like facelifts, and they leave some wrinkles for "character". No need for lipo or cool sculpting, because they don't eat. Carolina Herrera is their goddess.

Who would actually talk about their Amex bill in real life and tell someone how much they spend on food?

My kids eat a lot. We love food. It is very much a part of our lives. They eat a ton, are very active and all stick thin. Luckily I am naturally thin and I also enjoy working out. My mom is obsessed with healthy eating so you are wrong there.

We have a lot of friends with old money, new money and no money. We don’t pick our friends on their financial status.

🤣 this is peak DCUM

I know who this is! It's that crazy one who says she loves to keep having kids and she can't help it. She was berating people for not having 4-5 children. She gets super defensive and gets into minutiae about her uterus and stomach after each pregnancy. Let me find the post so I can link it. Same writing style and insane details.