FCPS Board Member Admits ‘Anti-Asian Feel’ to New High School Admission Process

[Anonymous]

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Year, Trump constantly referring to the “ China Virus” didn’t do anything to harm Asians .. oh wait.

Not anymore than all the talk about the “South African Variant”.

1. people are calling it omicron
2. it's a variant of the ch1na virus, a name that Trump pushed to place blame and take the focus off of him and his inabilty to deal with the crisis (which is why he lost)

Some call it omicron, but the first thing I heard was South African variant. Where was the outrage?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They used middle schools, unless you think that they’ve been planning this for decades, you sound like a loon

When you have the data and the motivation you can design a system to produce the end goal you want. Doesn’t take decades of planning, and it’s really not much different from gerrymandering.

It’s clear they went through multiple iterations of tweaking the weighting until they were satisfied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Year, Trump constantly referring to the “ China Virus” didn’t do anything to harm Asians .. oh wait.

Not anymore than all the talk about the “South African Variant”.

1. people are calling it omicron
2. it's a variant of the ch1na virus, a name that Trump pushed to place blame and take the focus off of him and his inabilty to deal with the crisis (which is why he lost)

Some call it omicron, but the first thing I heard was South African variant. Where was the outrage?

Sure, the Omnicron variant was originally reported as having originated in South Africa (which further reporting quickly clarified that it was first detected/reported there, likely because they have stronger monitoring than many other parts of the world, but that we don't yet know where or how it actually originated). I never saw it referred to as the "South African variant" in a perjorative manner, so there was nothing to be outraged about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used middle schools, unless you think that they’ve been planning this for decades, you sound like a loon

When you have the data and the motivation you can design a system to produce the end goal you want. Doesn’t take decades of planning, and it’s really not much different from gerrymandering.

It’s clear they went through multiple iterations of tweaking the weighting until they were satisfied.

So the master plan was to hold white enrollment steady at 22% and increase URM enrollment and that’s why you’re so upset?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used middle schools, unless you think that they’ve been planning this for decades, you sound like a loon

When you have the data and the motivation you can design a system to produce the end goal you want. Doesn’t take decades of planning, and it’s really not much different from gerrymandering.

It’s clear they went through multiple iterations of tweaking the weighting until they were satisfied.

So the master plan was to hold white enrollment steady at 22% and increase URM enrollment and that’s why you’re so upset?

Discrimination is discrimination. Intentions matter.

Or do you believe racism is ok as long as Asians are on the receiving end of it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used middle schools, unless you think that they’ve been planning this for decades, you sound like a loon

When you have the data and the motivation you can design a system to produce the end goal you want. Doesn’t take decades of planning, and it’s really not much different from gerrymandering.

It’s clear they went through multiple iterations of tweaking the weighting until they were satisfied.

So the master plan was to hold white enrollment steady at 22% and increase URM enrollment and that’s why you’re so upset?

Discrimination is discrimination. Intentions matter.

Or do you believe racism is ok as long as Asians are on the receiving end of it?

So having more black kids at TJ is always going to be discrimination because it will necessarily mean less seats for another group?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used middle schools, unless you think that they’ve been planning this for decades, you sound like a loon

When you have the data and the motivation you can design a system to produce the end goal you want. Doesn’t take decades of planning, and it’s really not much different from gerrymandering.

It’s clear they went through multiple iterations of tweaking the weighting until they were satisfied.

So the master plan was to hold white enrollment steady at 22% and increase URM enrollment and that’s why you’re so upset?

Discrimination is discrimination. Intentions matter.

Or do you believe racism is ok as long as Asians are on the receiving end of it?

So having more black kids at TJ is always going to be discrimination because it will necessarily mean less seats for another group?

Again, you can be for more URM representation and ALSO seek to reduce Asian representation. The former is good. The latter is discrimination.

Imagine if the school was majority black and the people in charge called the school toxic and kept insinuating they had to cheat to get there. Then they enacted a gerrymander style plan that structurally handicapped black student enrollment. Everyone would be up in arms and screaming racism.

It's ok to do that to Asians instead?

Throughout the process the leaders made it clear they wanted fewer Asians at the school, and that the current student body wasn't worthy of being at TJ. "Pay to Play" and comparing prep to "performance enhancing drugs" are racist dog whistles. IIRC Qarni even complained about TJ's #1 ranking. What kind of secretary of education does that?

The people in charge repeatedly disrespected Asian families and their cultural focus on academics.

Having more URMs at TJ is good, but the method of getting there matters. Finding a way to get more URMs to apply? Good. Building a stronger URM pipeline? Good. Some kind of universal screening? Good. Maybe even enact some reforms that aren't overt racial engineering.

What's not acceptable is discriminating against a group and shaming them the entire way there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used middle schools, unless you think that they’ve been planning this for decades, you sound like a loon

When you have the data and the motivation you can design a system to produce the end goal you want. Doesn’t take decades of planning, and it’s really not much different from gerrymandering.

It’s clear they went through multiple iterations of tweaking the weighting until they were satisfied.

So the master plan was to hold white enrollment steady at 22% and increase URM enrollment and that’s why you’re so upset?

Discrimination is discrimination. Intentions matter.

Or do you believe racism is ok as long as Asians are on the receiving end of it?

So having more black kids at TJ is always going to be discrimination because it will necessarily mean less seats for another group?

Again, you can be for more URM representation and ALSO seek to reduce Asian representation. The former is good. The latter is discrimination.

Imagine if the school was majority black and the people in charge called the school toxic and kept insinuating they had to cheat to get there. Then they enacted a gerrymander style plan that structurally handicapped black student enrollment. Everyone would be up in arms and screaming racism.

It's ok to do that to Asians instead?

Throughout the process the leaders made it clear they wanted fewer Asians at the school, and that the current student body wasn't worthy of being at TJ. "Pay to Play" and comparing prep to "performance enhancing drugs" are racist dog whistles. IIRC Qarni even complained about TJ's #1 ranking. What kind of secretary of education does that?

The people in charge repeatedly disrespected Asian families and their cultural focus on academics.

Having more URMs at TJ is good, but the method of getting there matters. Finding a way to get more URMs to apply? Good. Building a stronger URM pipeline? Good. Some kind of universal screening? Good. Maybe even enact some reforms that aren't overt racial engineering.

What's not acceptable is discriminating against a group and shaming them the entire way there.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used middle schools, unless you think that they’ve been planning this for decades, you sound like a loon

When you have the data and the motivation you can design a system to produce the end goal you want. Doesn’t take decades of planning, and it’s really not much different from gerrymandering.

It’s clear they went through multiple iterations of tweaking the weighting until they were satisfied.

So the master plan was to hold white enrollment steady at 22% and increase URM enrollment and that’s why you’re so upset?

Discrimination is discrimination. Intentions matter.

Or do you believe racism is ok as long as Asians are on the receiving end of it?

So having more black kids at TJ is always going to be discrimination because it will necessarily mean less seats for another group?

Again, you can be for more URM representation and ALSO seek to reduce Asian representation. The former is good. The latter is discrimination.

Imagine if the school was majority black and the people in charge called the school toxic and kept insinuating they had to cheat to get there. Then they enacted a gerrymander style plan that structurally handicapped black student enrollment. Everyone would be up in arms and screaming racism.

It's ok to do that to Asians instead?

Throughout the process the leaders made it clear they wanted fewer Asians at the school, and that the current student body wasn't worthy of being at TJ. "Pay to Play" and comparing prep to "performance enhancing drugs" are racist dog whistles. IIRC Qarni even complained about TJ's #1 ranking. What kind of secretary of education does that?

The people in charge repeatedly disrespected Asian families and their cultural focus on academics.

Having more URMs at TJ is good, but the method of getting there matters. Finding a way to get more URMs to apply? Good. Building a stronger URM pipeline? Good. Some kind of universal screening? Good. Maybe even enact some reforms that aren't overt racial engineering.

What's not acceptable is discriminating against a group and shaming them the entire way there.

I agree with pretty much everything you said, in light of the evidence that has come out about the School Board's behavior behind closed doors.

Given that the number of Black and Hispanic students to apply to TJ increased from 368 in 2024 to 567 in 2025, I would venture that guaranteeing spaces to qualified students from each middle school and eliminating the application fee had an extraordinarily positive impact on application numbers for students from underrepresented groups.

You can call that overt racial engineering all you want, but it got more of them to apply (by a HUGE margin) and that's that. Applications from Asian students also increased by over 100 as well, so it's not like that positive impact was limited to those from underrepresented groups. One of the things that people casually ignore is that the new admissions process hugely benefited Asian students of economic disadvantage as well.

[Anonymous]

It's objectively the case that FCPS is now admitting students who haven't worked as hard to demonstrate their commitment to academic success. And PP doesn't want applicants to even be in a position to do so, because she'll claim it's abusive.

PP is also full of it when she claims the "most important resource" is attending a school where all the students care about academics; if that were her main concern, the very last thing she and her cronies would have done is obsess about blatantly race-driven adjustments to the admissions process at a single high school.

All these people want are approval from their own circle, so they can pat themselves on the back when FCPS posts a picture of the TJ Class of 2025 graduation ceremony with some Black and Hispanic kids. That's the sum total of their aspirations for students across the entire county. You are so pathetic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's objectively the case that FCPS is now admitting students who haven't worked as hard to demonstrate their commitment to academic success. And PP doesn't want applicants to even be in a position to do so, because she'll claim it's abusive.

PP is also full of it when she claims the "most important resource" is attending a school where all the students care about academics; if that were her main concern, the very last thing she and her cronies would have done is obsess about blatantly race-driven adjustments to the admissions process at a single high school.

All these people want are approval from their own circle, so they can pat themselves on the back when FCPS posts a picture of the TJ Class of 2025 graduation ceremony with some Black and Hispanic kids. That's the sum total of their aspirations for students across the entire county. You are so pathetic.

That's not objectively true. You have no data to back up that assertion AT ALL, and indeed, the only data that is available (which, to be sure, is flawed) asserts that the average MS GPA of the new class is HIGHER than the average MS GPA of previous classes.

Granted, it is partially a function of the new admissions process that you don't have that data, but you still don't, and as a result the premise that the remainder of your post is built upon is null and void.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's objectively the case that FCPS is now admitting students who haven't worked as hard to demonstrate their commitment to academic success. And PP doesn't want applicants to even be in a position to do so, because she'll claim it's abusive.

PP is also full of it when she claims the "most important resource" is attending a school where all the students care about academics; if that were her main concern, the very last thing she and her cronies would have done is obsess about blatantly race-driven adjustments to the admissions process at a single high school.

All these people want are approval from their own circle, so they can pat themselves on the back when FCPS posts a picture of the TJ Class of 2025 graduation ceremony with some Black and Hispanic kids. That's the sum total of their aspirations for students across the entire county. You are so pathetic.

That's not objectively true. You have no data to back up that assertion AT ALL, and indeed, the only data that is available (which, to be sure, is flawed) asserts that the average MS GPA of the new class is HIGHER than the average MS GPA of previous classes.

Granted, it is partially a function of the new admissions process that you don't have that data, but you still don't, and as a result the premise that the remainder of your post is built upon is null and void.

The GPA requirement is a minimal requirement and not a good proxy for the qualifications and aptitude that applicants were previously required to demonstrate. Accordingly, the remainder of your response is rendered moot.

[Anonymous]

God, this argument is so boring and so overdone. Can't the two of you get a room?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They used middle schools, unless you think that they’ve been planning this for decades, you sound like a loon

When you have the data and the motivation you can design a system to produce the end goal you want. Doesn’t take decades of planning, and it’s really not much different from gerrymandering.

It’s clear they went through multiple iterations of tweaking the weighting until they were satisfied.

So the master plan was to hold white enrollment steady at 22% and increase URM enrollment and that’s why you’re so upset?

Discrimination is discrimination. Intentions matter.

Or do you believe racism is ok as long as Asians are on the receiving end of it?

So having more black kids at TJ is always going to be discrimination because it will necessarily mean less seats for another group?

Again, you can be for more URM representation and ALSO seek to reduce Asian representation. The former is good. The latter is discrimination.

Imagine if the school was majority black and the people in charge called the school toxic and kept insinuating they had to cheat to get there. Then they enacted a gerrymander style plan that structurally handicapped black student enrollment. Everyone would be up in arms and screaming racism.

It's ok to do that to Asians instead?

Throughout the process the leaders made it clear they wanted fewer Asians at the school, and that the current student body wasn't worthy of being at TJ. "Pay to Play" and comparing prep to "performance enhancing drugs" are racist dog whistles. IIRC Qarni even complained about TJ's #1 ranking. What kind of secretary of education does that?

The people in charge repeatedly disrespected Asian families and their cultural focus on academics.

Having more URMs at TJ is good, but the method of getting there matters. Finding a way to get more URMs to apply? Good. Building a stronger URM pipeline? Good. Some kind of universal screening? Good. Maybe even enact some reforms that aren't overt racial engineering.

What's not acceptable is discriminating against a group and shaming them the entire way there.

How is guaranteeing middle schools slots discrimination?

[Anonymous]

I was in favor of admissions changes, but did not know that they would rig the numbers. So there are more than a few TJ students in the 2025 class who are struggling. They are getting extra tutoring and help so here's hoping most of them will stick it out. Would they have been better off going to their base school instead? Time will tell. I worry more about their mental health than their grades. You don't get these years of childhood back. The school board and Brabrand cared more about meeting their URM numbers and not guiding individual students and families on the most appropriate HS setting. Shameful.