FCPS Board Member Admits ‘Anti-Asian Feel’ to New High School Admission Process

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Anonymous wrote:You don't understand the meaning of the word 'racist' and are using it inappropriately. It should only be used when deliberate action is being taken to deny someone the same opportunities as others have based on the color of their skin. That is not happening at TJ.

isn't this exactly what TJ reform is all about? Are you this naive or just obtuse?

No action is being taken to deliberately reduce the population of students of Asian descent at TJ. The action being taken is to help others who haven't had the same opportunities, and the reduction in the number of those of Asian descent is a byproduct of that action. I don't understand how you are missing this. No one is deliberately trying to get rid of Asian students at TJ.


+1000 and I'll copy-paste it again so others can re-read it multiple times to understand the basic math of a zero-sum situation. Go read the Wikipedia article.

"No action is being taken to deliberately reduce the population of students of Asian descent at TJ. The action being taken is to help others who haven't had the same opportunities, and the reduction in the number of those of Asian descent is a byproduct of that action. No one is deliberately trying to get rid of Asian students at TJ."


Repeating oneself does not make a statement any more persuasive.

FCPS pitted one community against another and effectively demanded that Asian families agree to reduced opportunities to benefit other students who, objectively, were not working as hard or successfully to achieve their goals, but yet are deemed to need a boost as a result of past events for which those Asian families are not responsible. And, in order to accomplish that goal, FCPS leadership and School Board members at times made statements that were affirmatively demeaning of Asian families and their values.

That's never going to go down well, nor should it.



Unless you build another TJ, it is a zero sum game. Increasing black and hispanic enrollment was always going to reduce Asian enrollment. It would have reduced white enrollment too if race could have been used as a factor, but one that was blocked, geography was the closest proxy and there are more white students spread throughout the whole county than Asian students
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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t FCPS build another TJ? Or like, 10 more TJs? We are one of the richest and most educated counties in the country. Surely we can make it happen?


They really should just change it to an Academy for post-AP classes. There are almost no classes that freshman and sophomores takes that are not offered at the base high schools.
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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t FCPS build another TJ? Or like, 10 more TJs? We are one of the richest and most educated counties in the country. Surely we can make it happen?


They really should just change it to an Academy for post-AP classes. There are almost no classes that freshman and sophomores takes that are not offered at the base high schools.


+1000
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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t FCPS build another TJ? Or like, 10 more TJs? We are one of the richest and most educated counties in the country. Surely we can make it happen?


They really should just change it to an Academy for post-AP classes. There are almost no classes that freshman and sophomores takes that are not offered at the base high schools.


+1000


But, then FCPS could not advertise the #1 high school in the country. But, that's likely to change in any case.
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Anonymous wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/fairfax-county-school-board-member-211316519.html

A Fairfax County school board member admitted in a text message to a fellow board member that the district’s new equity-focused admissions policy for an advanced high school in Virginia has undertones of anti-Asian discrimination.

School board member Abrar Omeish texted board member Stella Pekarsky: “I mean there has been an anti asian feel underlying some of this, hate to say it lol,” according to correspondence obtained by non-profit Parents Defending Education. Pekarsky responded: “…I always told people that talking about TJ is a stupid waste of tome [sic].” Omeish replied: “Of course it is…They’re discriminated against in this process too.”


I’m waiting to see if Hannah Natanson at the Post covers this or if they ignore it since it doesn’t fit the Post’s agenda.


Infuriating. As an Asian, I am disgusted that we're vilified (Covid related) by the right-wing, and discriminated against in the name of equity by the left-wing. The best we can ever hope for in the USA is to be ignored.




Well, at least the right wing isn’t systematically pursuing agenda/policy to disadvantage Asians.


Year, Trump constantly referring to the “ China Virus” didn’t do anything to harm Asians .. oh wait.

Not anymore than all the talk about the “South African Variant”.
Anonymous
There's an underlying assumption being made in some of the arguments here, that those who score the highest on tests and get the highest grades are necessarily the strongest students. This is not true, which is why US colleges don't admit purely based on numbers.

Some students get higher numbers because they are really good at following directions and making sure they get every little assignment done completely, but they don't understand the material as deeply as others.

And some students get higher numbers because they focus 100% of their energy on getting those high numbers, while their classmates--who may be just as brilliant or even more so--get grades or test scores that are a bit lower due to not having as much time because they're spending many hours a week on some activity they love.

Admissions offices at the college level, and now also at TJ, have the unenviable task of ferreting out who will prove to be the better bet in the long run. It's not a perfect system, but it's better than relying solely on numbers, which misses quite a few very promising students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/fairfax-county-school-board-member-211316519.html

A Fairfax County school board member admitted in a text message to a fellow board member that the district’s new equity-focused admissions policy for an advanced high school in Virginia has undertones of anti-Asian discrimination.

School board member Abrar Omeish texted board member Stella Pekarsky: “I mean there has been an anti asian feel underlying some of this, hate to say it lol,” according to correspondence obtained by non-profit Parents Defending Education. Pekarsky responded: “…I always told people that talking about TJ is a stupid waste of tome [sic].” Omeish replied: “Of course it is…They’re discriminated against in this process too.”


I’m waiting to see if Hannah Natanson at the Post covers this or if they ignore it since it doesn’t fit the Post’s agenda.


Infuriating. As an Asian, I am disgusted that we're vilified (Covid related) by the right-wing, and discriminated against in the name of equity by the left-wing. The best we can ever hope for in the USA is to be ignored.





Be the change. Advocate for better policies. Run for office. Whites don’t care enough.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/fairfax-county-school-board-member-211316519.html

A Fairfax County school board member admitted in a text message to a fellow board member that the district’s new equity-focused admissions policy for an advanced high school in Virginia has undertones of anti-Asian discrimination.

School board member Abrar Omeish texted board member Stella Pekarsky: “I mean there has been an anti asian feel underlying some of this, hate to say it lol,” according to correspondence obtained by non-profit Parents Defending Education. Pekarsky responded: “…I always told people that talking about TJ is a stupid waste of tome [sic].” Omeish replied: “Of course it is…They’re discriminated against in this process too.”


I’m waiting to see if Hannah Natanson at the Post covers this or if they ignore it since it doesn’t fit the Post’s agenda.


Infuriating. As an Asian, I am disgusted that we're vilified (Covid related) by the right-wing, and discriminated against in the name of equity by the left-wing. The best we can ever hope for in the USA is to be ignored.





Be the change. Advocate for better policies. Run for office. Whites don’t care enough.


you sound a little racist
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://news.yahoo.com/fairfax-county-school-board-member-211316519.html

A Fairfax County school board member admitted in a text message to a fellow board member that the district’s new equity-focused admissions policy for an advanced high school in Virginia has undertones of anti-Asian discrimination.

School board member Abrar Omeish texted board member Stella Pekarsky: “I mean there has been an anti asian feel underlying some of this, hate to say it lol,” according to correspondence obtained by non-profit Parents Defending Education. Pekarsky responded: “…I always told people that talking about TJ is a stupid waste of tome [sic].” Omeish replied: “Of course it is…They’re discriminated against in this process too.”


I’m waiting to see if Hannah Natanson at the Post covers this or if they ignore it since it doesn’t fit the Post’s agenda.


Infuriating. As an Asian, I am disgusted that we're vilified (Covid related) by the right-wing, and discriminated against in the name of equity by the left-wing. The best we can ever hope for in the USA is to be ignored.




Well, at least the right wing isn’t systematically pursuing agenda/policy to disadvantage Asians.


Year, Trump constantly referring to the “ China Virus” didn’t do anything to harm Asians .. oh wait.

As an Asian, I’d pick Trump over racist liberals any day of the week.


As long as you don't still have family hoping to immigrate
Anonymous
Uh, according to the Wash Post, there was no change to white students admissions rate under the new approach. 22% of admits were white, similar to past four years, and dramatically smaller share than their makeup in county demographics, which show 60% of residents are white.

Where's this big systemic payoff you claim?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You don't understand the meaning of the word 'racist' and are using it inappropriately. It should only be used when deliberate action is being taken to deny someone the same opportunities as others have based on the color of their skin. That is not happening at TJ.

isn't this exactly what TJ reform is all about? Are you this naive or just obtuse?

No action is being taken to deliberately reduce the population of students of Asian descent at TJ. The action being taken is to help others who haven't had the same opportunities, and the reduction in the number of those of Asian descent is a byproduct of that action. I don't understand how you are missing this. No one is deliberately trying to get rid of Asian students at TJ.


+1000 and I'll copy-paste it again so others can re-read it multiple times to understand the basic math of a zero-sum situation. Go read the Wikipedia article.

"No action is being taken to deliberately reduce the population of students of Asian descent at TJ. The action being taken is to help others who haven't had the same opportunities, and the reduction in the number of those of Asian descent is a byproduct of that action. No one is deliberately trying to get rid of Asian students at TJ."


Repeating oneself does not make a statement any more persuasive.

FCPS pitted one community against another and effectively demanded that Asian families agree to reduced opportunities to benefit other students who, objectively, were not working as hard or successfully to achieve their goals, but yet are deemed to need a boost as a result of past events for which those Asian families are not responsible. And, in order to accomplish that goal, FCPS leadership and School Board members at times made statements that were affirmatively demeaning of Asian families and their values.

That's never going to go down well, nor should it.



Unless you build another TJ, it is a zero sum game. Increasing black and hispanic enrollment was always going to reduce Asian enrollment. It would have reduced white enrollment too if race could have been used as a factor, but one that was blocked, geography was the closest proxy and there are more white students spread throughout the whole county than Asian students


Both goals can be true. The SB could want to increase URM enrollment and ALSO decrease Asian American enrollment.

It'd be one thing if the SB was singing the praises of Asian Americans and lauding the culture but acknowledging the need to make room for URMs. That would have been a lot more palatable.

Instead, members of the SB basically implied Asian Americans didn't deserve their seats and made it clear they preferred fewer Asian Americans at TJ. The whole "pay-to-play" comment is a racist dog whistle. That kind of attitude cannot be tolerated in our leadership.

Now, we know that the SB was gaming the system to maximize URM enrollment in the same way politicians use data to gerrymander voter districts. Instead of voters choosing politicians, the politicians choose the voters. Similarly, the school board was shaping the student body by running simulations against their admission criteria until they achieved their desired goals. While the current admissions criteria is technically race neutral, the process of getting there was completely motivated by race.
Anonymous
They used middle schools, unless you think that they’ve been planning this for decades, you sound like a loon
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's an underlying assumption being made in some of the arguments here, that those who score the highest on tests and get the highest grades are necessarily the strongest students. This is not true, which is why US colleges don't admit purely based on numbers.

Some students get higher numbers because they are really good at following directions and making sure they get every little assignment done completely, but they don't understand the material as deeply as others.

And some students get higher numbers because they focus 100% of their energy on getting those high numbers, while their classmates--who may be just as brilliant or even more so--get grades or test scores that are a bit lower due to not having as much time because they're spending many hours a week on some activity they love.

Admissions offices at the college level, and now also at TJ, have the unenviable task of ferreting out who will prove to be the better bet in the long run. It's not a perfect system, but it's better than relying solely on numbers, which misses quite a few very promising students.


The prior system at TJ, which was working fine, did not rely solely on numbers.

In addition, insofar as TJ is a public high school rather than a private college with far greater resources, the challenges that admissions officers face at colleges, who may have an unenviable task but at least are able to look at an application from a 17 or 18-year-old as opposed to a 13 or 14-year-old, will only be magnified at TJ, unless you propose to allocate an even larger amount of FCPS's time and resources to TJ.

The notion that TJ is now better positioned to spot hidden genius than it was before is a convenient fiction, but not a convincing one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Year, Trump constantly referring to the “ China Virus” didn’t do anything to harm Asians .. oh wait.

Not anymore than all the talk about the “South African Variant”.

1. people are calling it omicron
2. it's a variant of the ch1na virus, a name that Trump pushed to place blame and take the focus off of him and his inabilty to deal with the crisis (which is why he lost)
Anonymous
Pekarsky emailed Omeish that Brabrand “screwed up TJ and the Asians hate us.” Omeish responded that he was “just dumb and too white” to address the diversity deficit in FCPS properly.

What do you think of the above text by AO from the article?

Agree with PP that the WaPo will not inquire/investigate. The 2,000 + legal docs released were filled with info.
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