City council voting today on bill to force school closings

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I will never understand the "we don't know what the long-term effects of long covid" are crowd. Here is one thing we know for sure: the long term effects of school closings, for poorer children especially, are disastrous and life-long.

I'm sure you're just as concerned with how in-person school was failing poorer children too. You probably even donated $20 to a cause. Just heart warming.

You don't understand much. I emphasized the effect on poorer children because (a) it is well documented (b) my own kids have been progressing well even with virtual (though it bears mentioning that many have not regardless of social and economic capital) (c) these phenomena seem best viewed from a societal point of view, than from an individual one. But, hey you got in what you thought was a dunk.

DP

1) we don’t know the long term effects; we know short term how it impacted learning. It shouldn’t be surprising that in a truncated year (4 days/week compared to 5) scores were lower

2) Stop using poor kids as your reasoning to come back into schools. The PP is right. This site consistently trashes lower income schools and families. Just yesterday I saw one person refer to them as “poors” and another discount certain ES because the amount of at-risk students in the school population. I’ve worked at both a W3 and RISE school during the pandemic and the amount of resource hoarding at the wealthy school shows that this “outrage” for lower income kids and their situations is just something people put on the internet to push their own self interest

DP

2) The fact that well-off parents, just like everyone else, care about their own kids first doesn't make anyone's argument that closed schools harm poor kids the most any less valid and important, nor does it mean that their concern is fake. If they are not allowed to be concerned about it because you will never believe they actually care, YOU, as an educator, should.

1) "We don't know the long-term effects" is an extremely poor argument to brush off these concerns. Experts do have the experience and the tools to infer from the current data that many of these kids will have a very hard time catching up. That's why they are universally sounding the alarm.

[Anonymous]

I am a well off parent and I want my kid to stay in school. The kids are all likely to get covid anyhow, if they are vaccinated there is no evidence that it causes anything more than a mild cold. Everyone stop panicking.

[Anonymous]

Side note: Can we all just agree that "Barfing back!" is the best DCUM comment of the New Year? (Page 4 of this thread.)

It should be on the masthead: DCUM--Barfing Back Since 2012.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Side note: Can we all just agree that "Barfing back!" is the best DCUM comment of the New Year? (Page 4 of this thread.)

It should be on the masthead: DCUM--Barfing Back Since 2012.

No, because the person who said it is a hideous libertarian child-hater.

[Anonymous]

Reality has finally started to penetrate the Twitter bubble:

https://twitter.com/zacharysboe5/status/1478863393578795011?s=21

https://twitter.com/allistersboe/status/1478858632347504642?s=21

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Reality has finally started to penetrate the Twitter bubble:

https://twitter.com/zacharysboe5/status/1478863393578795011?s=21

https://twitter.com/allistersboe/status/1478858632347504642?s=21

If you take the time to read the tweets, you’ll see they are calling for the exact things teachers are asking for.
Nobody is asking to close schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

Saying that virtual is the same as opening schools is the childish word game. It’s not the same

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

DP. Even Mary Cheh suspects their demands are a Trojan Horse to revert to virtual. I guarantee you she isn’t using such language without cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

The proposed metric from CORE was a citywide seven day positive test average of less than 200. Considering that the current count is 2,000 that is tantamount to virtual for months. The constant obfuscation and word games just harden positions against you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

DP. Even Mary Cheh suspects their demands are a Trojan Horse to revert to virtual. I guarantee you she isn’t using such language without cause.

To be clear, this is what teachers are trying to prevent: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1026549.page

As a teacher who works exclusively with small groups, I can guarantee you I will not be able to service those groups for the next few weeks because I will be covering various grade levels and special subjects, just like I was doing the two weeks before break. There is no acceleration going on, there is no remediation, there’s no consistency.

I hope you are ready for two absolutely useless weeks of a crowded babysitting space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

The proposed metric from CORE was a citywide seven day positive test average of less than 200. Considering that the current count is 2,000 that is tantamount to virtual for months. The constant obfuscation and word games just harden positions against you.

Or maybe we shouldn’t be sacrificing children and teachers while case rates are that high. These are humans, not data points