City council voting today on bill to force school closings

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Anonymous wrote:I am a well off parent and I want my kid to stay in school. The kids are all likely to get covid anyhow, if they are vaccinated there is no evidence that it causes anything more than a mild cold. Everyone stop panicking.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a well off parent and I want my kid to stay in school. The kids are all likely to get covid anyhow, if they are vaccinated there is no evidence that it causes anything more than a mild cold. Everyone stop panicking.

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Seems like a worthwhile debate: many of us don’t think we need to get sick as a prerequisite of our jobs

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

The proposed metric from CORE was a citywide seven day positive test average of less than 200. Considering that the current count is 2,000 that is tantamount to virtual for months. The constant obfuscation and word games just harden positions against you.

Or maybe we shouldn’t be sacrificing children and teachers while case rates are that high. These are humans, not data points

Glad that you've stopped the obfuscation although "sacrificed" is absurd. We're in the midst of omicron not delta. Vaccines have been widely available for months. Almost all students are eligible. In person school does not increase spread rather it actually helps control spread in conjunction with testing.

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

The proposed metric from CORE was a citywide seven day positive test average of less than 200. Considering that the current count is 2,000 that is tantamount to virtual for months. The constant obfuscation and word games just harden positions against you.

Or maybe we shouldn’t be sacrificing children and teachers while case rates are that high. These are humans, not data points

Glad that you've stopped the obfuscation although "sacrificed" is absurd. We're in the midst of omicron not delta. Vaccines have been widely available for months. Almost all students are eligible. In person school does not increase spread rather it actually helps control spread in conjunction with testing.

Even if you truly believe that schools don’t increase spread which is incredible to me, they certainly don’t curb it. Color me unimpressed by dcps testing. Less than half of families completed it today.

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

DP. Even Mary Cheh suspects their demands are a Trojan Horse to revert to virtual. I guarantee you she isn’t using such language without cause.

To be clear, this is what teachers are trying to prevent: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1026549.page

As a teacher who works exclusively with small groups, I can guarantee you I will not be able to service those groups for the next few weeks because I will be covering various grade levels and special subjects, just like I was doing the two weeks before break. There is no acceleration going on, there is no remediation, there’s no consistency.

I hope you are ready for two absolutely useless weeks of a crowded babysitting space.

Even if small groups and other IEP services aren't happening, school isn't just a "babysitting space" for my kids with ADHD/ASD. I don't need childcare, but my kids need to be in school with peers. And the weeks before the break were anything but useless or chaos at our school.

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

The proposed metric from CORE was a citywide seven day positive test average of less than 200. Considering that the current count is 2,000 that is tantamount to virtual for months. The constant obfuscation and word games just harden positions against you.

Or maybe we shouldn’t be sacrificing children and teachers while case rates are that high. These are humans, not data points

Glad that you've stopped the obfuscation although "sacrificed" is absurd. We're in the midst of omicron not delta. Vaccines have been widely available for months. Almost all students are eligible. In person school does not increase spread rather it actually helps control spread in conjunction with testing.

DP. And even during delta, we didn't "sacrifice" kids by keeping them in school. What we shouldn't do is sacrifice our kids' education and social/mental well-being to people's irrational fears.

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

The proposed metric from CORE was a citywide seven day positive test average of less than 200. Considering that the current count is 2,000 that is tantamount to virtual for months. The constant obfuscation and word games just harden positions against you.

Or maybe we shouldn’t be sacrificing children and teachers while case rates are that high. These are humans, not data points

Glad that you've stopped the obfuscation although "sacrificed" is absurd. We're in the midst of omicron not delta. Vaccines have been widely available for months. Almost all students are eligible. In person school does not increase spread rather it actually helps control spread in conjunction with testing.

DP. And even during delta, we didn't "sacrifice" kids by keeping them in school. What we shouldn't do is sacrifice our kids' education and social/mental well-being to people's irrational fears.

It’s not irrational to say that a majority of people working in schools will get covid. It is irrational that you all think it’s fine for getting a flu like virus should just be part of the job.

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

The proposed metric from CORE was a citywide seven day positive test average of less than 200. Considering that the current count is 2,000 that is tantamount to virtual for months. The constant obfuscation and word games just harden positions against you.

Or maybe we shouldn’t be sacrificing children and teachers while case rates are that high. These are humans, not data points

Glad that you've stopped the obfuscation although "sacrificed" is absurd. We're in the midst of omicron not delta. Vaccines have been widely available for months. Almost all students are eligible. In person school does not increase spread rather it actually helps control spread in conjunction with testing.

DP. And even during delta, we didn't "sacrifice" kids by keeping them in school. What we shouldn't do is sacrifice our kids' education and social/mental well-being to people's irrational fears.

It’s not irrational to say that a majority of people working in schools will get covid. It is irrational that you all think it’s fine for getting a flu like virus should just be part of the job.

Adding to say that if you don’t think that’s an issue, we have nothing more to discuss

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

DP. Even Mary Cheh suspects their demands are a Trojan Horse to revert to virtual. I guarantee you she isn’t using such language without cause.

To be clear, this is what teachers are trying to prevent: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1026549.page

As a teacher who works exclusively with small groups, I can guarantee you I will not be able to service those groups for the next few weeks because I will be covering various grade levels and special subjects, just like I was doing the two weeks before break. There is no acceleration going on, there is no remediation, there’s no consistency.

I hope you are ready for two absolutely useless weeks of a crowded babysitting space.

Even if small groups and other IEP services aren't happening, school isn't just a "babysitting space" for my kids with ADHD/ASD. I don't need childcare, but my kids need to be in school with peers. And the weeks before the break were anything but useless or chaos at our school.

As a parent you have no clue. No idea what services your child is really getting when their teacher and provider has to cover something. And with peers? The peers who have to make sure they aren’t too close to your child, unless you think 30 min of recess is all the social time your child needs.

I’m not babysitting but I’m sure as hell not getting to teach all my kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

The proposed metric from CORE was a citywide seven day positive test average of less than 200. Considering that the current count is 2,000 that is tantamount to virtual for months. The constant obfuscation and word games just harden positions against you.

Or maybe we shouldn’t be sacrificing children and teachers while case rates are that high. These are humans, not data points

Glad that you've stopped the obfuscation although "sacrificed" is absurd. We're in the midst of omicron not delta. Vaccines have been widely available for months. Almost all students are eligible. In person school does not increase spread rather it actually helps control spread in conjunction with testing.

DP. And even during delta, we didn't "sacrifice" kids by keeping them in school. What we shouldn't do is sacrifice our kids' education and social/mental well-being to people's irrational fears.

It’s not irrational to say that a majority of people working in schools will get covid. It is irrational that you all think it’s fine for getting a flu like virus should just be part of the job.

Getting flu-like viruses is part of the job for teachers. Where have you been?

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

The proposed metric from CORE was a citywide seven day positive test average of less than 200. Considering that the current count is 2,000 that is tantamount to virtual for months. The constant obfuscation and word games just harden positions against you.

Or maybe we shouldn’t be sacrificing children and teachers while case rates are that high. These are humans, not data points

Glad that you've stopped the obfuscation although "sacrificed" is absurd. We're in the midst of omicron not delta. Vaccines have been widely available for months. Almost all students are eligible. In person school does not increase spread rather it actually helps control spread in conjunction with testing.

DP. And even during delta, we didn't "sacrifice" kids by keeping them in school. What we shouldn't do is sacrifice our kids' education and social/mental well-being to people's irrational fears.

It’s not irrational to say that a majority of people working in schools will get covid. It is irrational that you all think it’s fine for getting a flu like virus should just be part of the job.

Getting flu-like viruses is part of the job for teachers. Where have you been?

Teaching for ten years without getting the flu. Got covid the week before break, so I guess I’ve been recovering

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

The proposed metric from CORE was a citywide seven day positive test average of less than 200. Considering that the current count is 2,000 that is tantamount to virtual for months. The constant obfuscation and word games just harden positions against you.

Or maybe we shouldn’t be sacrificing children and teachers while case rates are that high. These are humans, not data points

Glad that you've stopped the obfuscation although "sacrificed" is absurd. We're in the midst of omicron not delta. Vaccines have been widely available for months. Almost all students are eligible. In person school does not increase spread rather it actually helps control spread in conjunction with testing.

DP. And even during delta, we didn't "sacrifice" kids by keeping them in school. What we shouldn't do is sacrifice our kids' education and social/mental well-being to people's irrational fears.

It’s not irrational to say that a majority of people working in schools will get covid. It is irrational that you all think it’s fine for getting a flu like virus should just be part of the job.

Getting flu-like viruses is part of the job for teachers. Where have you been?

Teaching for ten years without getting the flu. Got covid the week before break, so I guess I’ve been recovering

I’ve been teaching for nine and get colds and bronchitis most years. Haven’t had COVID yet.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a well off parent and I want my kid to stay in school. The kids are all likely to get covid anyhow, if they are vaccinated there is no evidence that it causes anything more than a mild cold. Everyone stop panicking.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a well off parent and I want my kid to stay in school. The kids are all likely to get covid anyhow, if they are vaccinated there is no evidence that it causes anything more than a mild cold. Everyone stop panicking.

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Seems like a worthwhile debate: many of us don’t think we need to get sick as a prerequisite of our jobs

Idk man I think it’s pretty standard for anyone who works around other people.

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Anonymous wrote:Mary Cheh says she won't support the metrics idea. She says it's just a sneaky way to force schools to close.

https://twitter.com/maustermuhle/status/1478408734204432385

This legislation is a way for politicians to close schools without any fingerprints. They'll say they're just interested in transparency and accountability and that this has nothing to do with closing schools. Then, when schools can't meet the absurd benchmarks in the legislation, politicians will pretend school closures are being driven by science and are out of their hands. It's a way for politicians to please the powerful teachers union by going virtual while trying to escape the wrath of parents.

THIS! The union wants virtual school. Robert White and Janeese Lewis George are endorsed by the union. RW, JLG, and the union are trying to disassociate from being responsible for school closures (they WERE responsible), so they're trying a back door way to keep schools closed with this legislation.

Nobody is asking to close schools

No, they're just demanding virtual until Covid disappears. Childlike word games don't help your cause.

You should try and read more. That’s not what they’re asking for.

DP. Even Mary Cheh suspects their demands are a Trojan Horse to revert to virtual. I guarantee you she isn’t using such language without cause.

To be clear, this is what teachers are trying to prevent: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1026549.page

As a teacher who works exclusively with small groups, I can guarantee you I will not be able to service those groups for the next few weeks because I will be covering various grade levels and special subjects, just like I was doing the two weeks before break. There is no acceleration going on, there is no remediation, there’s no consistency.

I hope you are ready for two absolutely useless weeks of a crowded babysitting space.

Even if small groups and other IEP services aren't happening, school isn't just a "babysitting space" for my kids with ADHD/ASD. I don't need childcare, but my kids need to be in school with peers. And the weeks before the break were anything but useless or chaos at our school.

As a parent you have no clue. No idea what services your child is really getting when their teacher and provider has to cover something. And with peers? The peers who have to make sure they aren’t too close to your child, unless you think 30 min of recess is all the social time your child needs.

I’m not babysitting but I’m sure as hell not getting to teach all my kids.

I certainly have a much better clue than any anonymous poster what my kids get and don't get from their school, even under challenging circumstances and if their services were to be suspended for a couple of weeks (they weren't before break as apparently happened at your school). And fortunately nobody is enforcing social distancing to a point where you could declare the social interactions at school worthless.

It's really strange that a teacher is so eager to declare in person school useless. It will always be better than the virtual learning charade.