City council voting today on bill to force school closings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They could close everything but schools. ...

Also why close schools but not daycare? Or day off camps? And why close public but not private schools? If it's public health then all should be examined.

This is what France has done. Ultra-strict localized lockdowns of businesses and socializing, but keeping schools open. French students have the most in-person weeks of education of any Western nation since March 2020. The adults feel the consequences, while the kids keep chugging away at school.

But you have to have buy-in from the police. In France, the police strictly ticket and arrest those who violate the lockdown. Whereas in the US, the police have been some of the biggest anti-vaxxers and anti-lockdown proponents.

[Anonymous]

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I support that bill. Finally, some common sense to release pressure off our hospitals - where you could end up TODAY, by slipping on the ice. Surely you want adequate care for your broken hip? Lots of people get heart attacks when shoveling out - surely you don't want them to die because the EMS services are slow getting them into hospital? There were waits of several hours last week from pick-up to hospital bed.

Okay, then let's close all restaurants, bars, gyms, and other non-essential businesses, rather than SCHOOLS.

YES. The fact that we're having this conversation is stone-cold stupid when schools should have been the last thing to close. It makes absolutely no sense that I can go to Orange Theory in person, sit at a bar, and stand among the sweaty masses at Starbucks but my kid can't go to school. Obviously we should be looking for as many workable solutions as possible, but having the most correct decision off the table entirely is peak idiocy.

I'm the first poster you quoted. I agree, but if elected officials aren't doing their job with closures, then something else needs to give to keep hospitals functioning. The priority is not kids in school, even though it would be so great if it was. The priority at this point is getting standards of care in hospitals to some degree of decent. I fully concur that this is unfair on the kids and parents. But we need healthcare more than anything else. And if you want to go scream at the Mayor, Governors and others for not shutting down bars and restaurants and other businesses when the time was right, then be my guest - they entirely deserve it! They're all think they can weasel out of difficult choices and no one will see through their little plans. Infuriating.

NP. The fundamental problem with your argument is that there is no data to suggest that closing schools helps the hospital situation in any way. NONE. School closures have never shown to make a positive difference in hospital admission numbers.

The second problem is that next to hospitals and grocery stores, nothing in our society is more essential than schools. So we shouldn't even be talking about closing schools at all. We can talk about closing other things, but not the venues where the people who are least at risk from Covid and most vulnerable in so many other ways get their education, which will affect their future and long-term life expectancy. It is pure lunacy and unethical.

I'm 12:37 and this is what I was driving at. Schools never should have been on the table for as long as they were. The plans should have been focused around keeping hospitals, grocery stores, and schools open and accessible. It seems like nobody ever sat down and asked "what really matters to a functioning society?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

+1 - I can't wait to vote against him in the primary

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

He's desperately trying to differentiate himself from Bowser with this stuff, and it's going to backfire badly.

Bowser is going to hammer him with this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

He's desperately trying to differentiate himself from Bowser with this stuff, and it's going to backfire badly.

Bowser is going to hammer him with this.

Considering a majority of the council has already come out in public supporting the bill, maybe it’s more popular that the DCUM crowd thinks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

+1 - I can't wait to vote against him in the primary

Interesting. I can't wait to vote for him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I support that bill. Finally, some common sense to release pressure off our hospitals - where you could end up TODAY, by slipping on the ice. Surely you want adequate care for your broken hip? Lots of people get heart attacks when shoveling out - surely you don't want them to die because the EMS services are slow getting them into hospital? There were waits of several hours last week from pick-up to hospital bed.

Except there is no scientific evidence that keeping schools open is related to hospital capacity problems. And we are not going to punish children for unvaccinated adults.

[Anonymous]

Is this the opposite of the Virginia bill forcing schools to stay open?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

He's desperately trying to differentiate himself from Bowser with this stuff, and it's going to backfire badly.

Bowser is going to hammer him with this.

Considering a majority of the council has already come out in public supporting the bill, maybe it’s more popular that the DCUM crowd thinks

NP. That might be true because people a) don't think through the consequences and b) don't care about kids if they don't have any themselves. This society has shown over the past two years that they are willing to impose harmful restrictions on children without evidence that they actually help and without concern about long-term consequences.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

+1 - I can't wait to vote against him in the primary

Interesting. I can't wait to vote for him.

+1 I can’t wait to vote for him either!

He isn’t presenting this bill for school closures…he’s presenting for more transparency and accountability from DCPS and he’s a DCPS parent. I can’t wait until the staff shortage boils over and forcing all you to be home and to take some accountability for your own kids that you decided to have!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

He's desperately trying to differentiate himself from Bowser with this stuff, and it's going to backfire badly.

Bowser is going to hammer him with this.

Considering a majority of the council has already come out in public supporting the bill, maybe it’s more popular that the DCUM crowd thinks

Four co-sponsors is not an majority. Emergency bills need nine votes to pass. It's an election year. No one is going to risk their jobs by shutting down schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

+1 - I can't wait to vote against him in the primary

Interesting. I can't wait to vote for him.

+1 I can’t wait to vote for him either!

He isn’t presenting this bill for school closures…he’s presenting for more transparency and accountability from DCPS and he’s a DCPS parent. I can’t wait until the staff shortage boils over and forcing all you to be home and to take some accountability for your own kids that you decided to have!

Barf.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It makes no sense that closing schools would ease the burden on hospital admissions.

The staff and teachers are vaccinated. Since vaccination became available only like 2.8% of hospitalizations in DC have been vaccinated individuals.

Kids are already at a low risk for hospitalizations.

Closing schools has not been shown to reduce spread anyway.

Closing schools, if anything, will INCREASE the burden on hospitals as hospital staff can't report because they have to stay home with their kids.

Couldn’t agree more. People supporting this bill try to present closures as virtuous when really it just makes everything worse. Also, for all the R. White boosters that assured people on this forum that he is not an advocate for closing schools, it didn’t take long at all to see how eager he is to do so.

He's desperately trying to differentiate himself from Bowser with this stuff, and it's going to backfire badly.

Did you read the proposed bill and not just what the OP stated? I’m missing where it says he wants to close schools?

Bowser is going to hammer him with this.

Considering a majority of the council has already come out in public supporting the bill, maybe it’s more popular that the DCUM crowd thinks

Four co-sponsors is not an majority. Emergency bills need nine votes to pass. It's an election year. No one is going to risk their jobs by shutting down schools.

[Anonymous]

The CDC says schools should remain open. Why does the city council want to overrule the CDC?