Deep dive into the hindu vote in northern Virginia

[Anonymous]

The Hindus here are basically followers of Modi. They hate the Muslims and are basically extreme Right wing fundamentalists. Unfortunately, they get pissed when I suggest that we should go back to the purest time of Indian culture where learned Brahmins were the rulers and policy makers, and low caste Baniyas were just tea sellers. That is unacceptable to them. LOL. These people think they are White. Ask any White how much they hate these Brownies.

- Hindu Brahmin who hates the fundamentalist India and the fundamentalist USA equally. I will always fight for rights of all people. Fine if someone wants to call me the liberal elite progressive. I am ok with it.

[Anonymous]

The Indians who voted for the GOP are the same ones
- who hate Muslims in India and US,
- who hate Hispanics because they think they are illegal immigrants who did not have to wait as long as legal immigrants to get legal status and get their families here
- who hate Blacks because they are poor, were enslaved, do poorly in schools, come from broken families, have many family members in the prison system
- hate underprivileged students - SN, ESOL, FARMS - these are swear words for them
- hate URMs for taking their ivy seats that they think belonged to their child.

They also think that the Whites will embrace them for being Trump supporters. They don't understand that the difference between Pakistan and India was that one was a fundamentalist Islamic state and another was a secular democratic state. The reason that women in India will not be stoned to death for adultry is not because there is any difference in culture of India and Pakistan, but mainly because we are not ruled by Sharia law. The corrupt Modi and his Sadhus want to be where the Maulvis in Pakistan are. Look at Pakistan. It is a failed country. US is also going the same way. If there is no protection of law for all and no equity and equality, this prosperous country will become like Pakistan. Same goes for India. If it continues on the path of Hindu fundamentalism it will become another Pakistan.

The more established and educated Hindus, especially those who came from prosperous and educated families in India, are the ones who don't get threatened by the call for "Equity" or "Liberal Progressives". They are intellectually capable of understanding that without the Civil Rights movement, they would not have reaped the benefits of this society. They believe that the more diverse this society is the better it will be for all. They are not worried about lack of opportunities for themselves because they are confident of their own capabilities. They have also watched the murder of George Floyd and understood the inherent cancer of racism much better than before. These are the Indians who helped to win the two races in Georgia, who shelter students when police tear gasses them, who march for BLM.

Thankfully, more and more Indians are educated. But, yeah Modi goons still lurk among us, especially among those who do not have the intellectual capacity to analyze why Democracy is so important for the well being of all.

[Anonymous]

The Indians who live around me tend to be dems. I don't know why. The Rs are fewer. My concern is they have no sympathy for special education and some of the Indian teachers who've come in to the school system can be a problem.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Hindu child of immigrants and I share the optimism of some of the people in that article. I appreciate what this country offers and am incredibly grateful for the American dream.

There is not a chance I will vote for a Democrat candidate as long as I live in this area. I know plenty who feel the same as I do.

Absolutely. From the article:

“What has made this country a beautiful place for us? Merit. Hard work.”

“We look brown,” said Tiwari. “We had accent[s], we knew we were not born in this country. But in a period of 10, 15 years we became a CEO of a large company. Why? Because there is something inherent about this country that if you work hard, if you focus, and dream—dream comes true. They reward capability, merit, intelligence, knowledge. That is what took us to where we are.”

I’m the first PP.

That all spoke to me as well because I feel 100% the same. I LOVE this country. I am truly grateful for what the US has provided for me and my family. I hate listening to the Democrats and their anti-American rhetoric. Talking as if other parts of the world are ‘better’ and the US is full of ignorant a$$holes. That is not the case at all. I have family all around the world and I would not choose to live anywhere else.

Some of the White liberals have no idea how great we have it here in the US. And how great, and resilient and amazing most American people really are.

I’m no CEO and I have a measly job (by Indian-American standards), but the US is an amazing place. And I have no idea why some progressives choose to rally against that.

What Democrat anti-American rhetoric are you speaking about? Specifically, I mean. Democrats wrap themselves in the flag every bit as much as Republicans.

If you mean to suggest the USA is above reproach, you don’t understand our country. Our entire existence is based on progress and change — it is why our Constitution can be amended.

But I am curious what specific anti-American rhetoric you are referring to.

DP. Are you new here? Serious question. Because if you've read these forums for even a day or two, you'd know that Democrats are *constantly* complaining about "how awful" the US is and asking what other countries they can move to, if anyone else has moved due to politics, etc etc. They seem to be extremely eager to hightail it out of this country, to which I can only offer my deepest encouragement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Hindu child of immigrants and I share the optimism of some of the people in that article. I appreciate what this country offers and am incredibly grateful for the American dream.

There is not a chance I will vote for a Democrat candidate as long as I live in this area. I know plenty who feel the same as I do.

Absolutely. From the article:

“What has made this country a beautiful place for us? Merit. Hard work.”

“We look brown,” said Tiwari. “We had accent[s], we knew we were not born in this country. But in a period of 10, 15 years we became a CEO of a large company. Why? Because there is something inherent about this country that if you work hard, if you focus, and dream—dream comes true. They reward capability, merit, intelligence, knowledge. That is what took us to where we are.”

I’m the first PP.

That all spoke to me as well because I feel 100% the same. I LOVE this country. I am truly grateful for what the US has provided for me and my family. I hate listening to the Democrats and their anti-American rhetoric. Talking as if other parts of the world are ‘better’ and the US is full of ignorant a$$holes. That is not the case at all. I have family all around the world and I would not choose to live anywhere else.

Some of the White liberals have no idea how great we have it here in the US. And how great, and resilient and amazing most American people really are.

I’m no CEO and I have a measly job (by Indian-American standards), but the US is an amazing place. And I have no idea why some progressives choose to rally against that.

Child of Indian immigrants here - it's amazing how racist you and your parents are. A lot of Indian-Americans are incredibly racist against other immigrants and think they are better. You think you are better than other brown people and it's disgusting.

DP. What on earth are you talking about? There wasn't one racist comment in the PP's post - this constant throwing around of the word "racist" is absurd and makes you look idiotic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As an AA female, I’m not surprised. However, these viewpoints appear so short-sighted to me. It is the democrat values and hard work to implement change that have allowed the US to become this great place y’all are talking about. Without the democrats, you would not have the opportunities you are so pleased to pursue. You think the republicans would be welcoming you with open arms if left to their own devices?

You seem like you don't get out much. Much of the Indian community has long been staunchly Republican. Were you aware?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an AA female, I’m not surprised. However, these viewpoints appear so short-sighted to me. It is the democrat values and hard work to implement change that have allowed the US to become this great place y’all are talking about. Without the democrats, you would not have the opportunities you are so pleased to pursue. You think the republicans would be welcoming you with open arms if left to their own devices?

I follow politics pretty closely and listen to the messages being sent by politicians. Democrats have been very clear that they are NOT welcoming me. Not a chance.

There are PLENTY of racist Democrats. Just like there are plenty of racist republicans.

Pretending that one party is somehow mortally superior is simply dishonest.

LOUDER for the hypocrites in the back, please.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As an AA female, I’m not surprised. However, these viewpoints appear so short-sighted to me. It is the democrat values and hard work to implement change that have allowed the US to become this great place y’all are talking about. Without the democrats, you would not have the opportunities you are so pleased to pursue. You think the republicans would be welcoming you with open arms if left to their own devices?

I follow politics pretty closely and listen to the messages being sent by politicians. Democrats have been very clear that they are NOT welcoming me. Not a chance.

There are PLENTY of racist Democrats. Just like there are plenty of racist republicans.

Pretending that one party is somehow mortally superior is simply dishonest.

LOL. How long have you been here? The GOP is about as amoral as you can get. Ds aren’t perfect but they are orders of magnitude better than Rs.

Wow, the delusion is strong with this one ^^.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an AA female, I’m not surprised. However, these viewpoints appear so short-sighted to me. It is the democrat values and hard work to implement change that have allowed the US to become this great place y’all are talking about. Without the democrats, you would not have the opportunities you are so pleased to pursue. You think the republicans would be welcoming you with open arms if left to their own devices?

+1

Seems like these recent immigrants aren’t familiar with what the Rs have been doing and saying about them for decades.

They’ll happily take your vote though, suckers.

Agreed. I’ve known Hindus/Indians who truly believe they are “white adjacent” as one PP upthread put it. But what they don’t realize is that white people (especially republicans) view them the same as other brown immigrants in this country. Sad.

And yet, it's Republicans who are fighting to keep TJ admissions merit-based - knowing that would naturally mean far more Asian and Indian kids being admitted. Why? Because they believe only the best and the brightest should be admitted to a school like TJ, period. Those awful Republicans!
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Hindu child of immigrants and I share the optimism of some of the people in that article. I appreciate what this country offers and am incredibly grateful for the American dream.

There is not a chance I will vote for a Democrat candidate as long as I live in this area. I know plenty who feel the same as I do.

Absolutely. From the article:

“What has made this country a beautiful place for us? Merit. Hard work.”

“We look brown,” said Tiwari. “We had accent[s], we knew we were not born in this country. But in a period of 10, 15 years we became a CEO of a large company. Why? Because there is something inherent about this country that if you work hard, if you focus, and dream—dream comes true. They reward capability, merit, intelligence, knowledge. That is what took us to where we are.”

I’m the first PP.

That all spoke to me as well because I feel 100% the same. I LOVE this country. I am truly grateful for what the US has provided for me and my family. I hate listening to the Democrats and their anti-American rhetoric. Talking as if other parts of the world are ‘better’ and the US is full of ignorant a$$holes. That is not the case at all. I have family all around the world and I would not choose to live anywhere else.

Some of the White liberals have no idea how great we have it here in the US. And how great, and resilient and amazing most American people really are.

I’m no CEO and I have a measly job (by Indian-American standards), but the US is an amazing place. And I have no idea why some progressives choose to rally against that.

Child of Indian immigrants here - it's amazing how racist you and your parents are. A lot of Indian-Americans are incredibly racist against other immigrants and think they are better. You think you are better than other brown people and it's disgusting.

DP. What on earth are you talking about? There wasn't one racist comment in the PP's post - this constant throwing around of the word "racist" is absurd and makes you look idiotic.

Yeah, that’s kind of what the liberal progressives around here seem to do when they want to silence any opposing voices. Actually seems to work quite well.

I’m the PP here who was labeled ‘racist’. And not only me, apparently, but my parents! My kind, elderly parents who happily welcome all our non-Indian spouses of various races. And to top it off, my mom happily voted for Biden.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's funny that none of the people interviewed choose to live in localities governed by the conservative ideals they espouse.

My neighbors in Silver Spring just recently went house hunting in Texas! They are both in tech and can telework. They are ready to hightail it out of MoCo and I cannot blame them. Both are not Hindu, because one spouse if from Sri Lanka, but just an example.

When driving there, I wonder if they had the same experience I did. Pulling off the highway and seeing two motels, one with a big sign: AMERICAN OWNED. Stopping at the other and it's run by an Indian family.

Not sure what your point is here. I see nothing wrong with a hotel advertising that they are American Owned. The Indian owned motel can advertise that is is Indian Owned to attract Indian tourists who would prefer that. Or Indian-American owned if they care to do so.

The bubble tea place by me advertises in Chinese to presumably attract Chinese customers. GWU had a list of Black Owned businesses on its website for people to support.
https://diversity.gwu.edu/black-owned-businesses-dmv-area

Do you have any issue with those? Why the hypocrisy and criticism towards an American Owned sign?

Oh, and that website, with the ‘inclusive’ email address of [e-mail] has zero mention of Asians. As if we just don’t even exist. As if there have been no incidences of anti-Asian violence in US history.

The website includes Black-owned business and anti-Semitic resources and LGBQT links. Not a single mention of Asians.

This isn’t unusual, FWIW. So I’ll take the PPs assertions that the Progressives are somehow less racist with a very large grain of basmati rice.

You didn’t look very hard…
https://mssc.gwu.edu/asian-and-pacific-islander-community

Yeah, I mean, that’s it exactly.

The Asians are not counted by the Office of Diversity and Equity. Clearly Asians don’t belong there. Not ‘diverse’ enough, I guess.

But they want the money from overseas Asians, so the make sure they are mentioned on the Multicultural Students Center.

Basically Asians don’t count as ‘diverse’ enough in the minds of progressives. There are lawsuits about it. And it well known by Asian parents here in the US that an Asian kid has to work that much harder and score that much higher compared to an AA or Latino student to get into her college of choice.

When my agency had a diversity audit (yep, there was such a ridiculous thing), they only counted AA, Latino and Native American employees as ‘diverse’ enough. So, it sure feels like progressives are actively trying to exclude Asians from the label of ‘diversity’.

Oh, they absolutely are. We see that with the TJ admissions fiasco and also with schools like Langley, which is about as diverse as they come - but not *the right* kind of diversity. Apparently, kids from every continent in the world aren't considered diverse - only by progressives, of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Hindus here are basically followers of Modi. They hate the Muslims and are basically extreme Right wing fundamentalists. Unfortunately, they get pissed when I suggest that we should go back to the purest time of Indian culture where learned Brahmins were the rulers and policy makers, and low caste Baniyas were just tea sellers. That is unacceptable to them. LOL. These people think they are White. Ask any White how much they hate these Brownies.

- Hindu Brahmin who hates the fundamentalist India and the fundamentalist USA equally. I will always fight for rights of all people. Fine if someone wants to call me the liberal elite progressive. I am ok with it.

Funny, I'm a white Republican and have plenty of Indian-American friends whom I respect and admire greatly. I don't know anyone who refers to Indians as "Brownies" - except, of course, bigoted liberal elite progressives, like you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s a lot of nastiness on this thread but the underlying story seems to be a common one—that there are a lot of people that don’t easily find a home in either party. Some of them are fiscal conservatives but socially tolerant. The old Republican Party was a big tent with lots of room for such people. I think it would be great for America if those people could reclaim the Republican Party. It’s really sad that the only alternstive to the Democratic Party is a party that defends the confederacy, peddles lies about an election, doesn’t want any woman to be able to chose an abortion, refuses any reasonable restrictions on gun ownership, denies basic facts of science like human controlled science change, and drives out people like Flake and Cbeney who dare to challenge any of this.
My dad was a Republican through 7 decades and he is pretty disgusted with his party.
We really need the old Republican Party (or a different née Republican Party) back again.

You know where I see a lot of the nastiness? From the progressives. I mean, yelling ‘racist’ is an effective way to shut down discourse, but it is pretty nasty.

I don’t disagree that I don’t identify with any party. That’s fine with me though. I’m not looking to belong to any tribe. It’s just voting and I will vote for the candidate and policy. Not for a party.

Your bias is very clearly showing, however. Your long list of Republican transgressions while ignoring the abysmal record of the Democrats.

I’ll provide just a few in case you can’t think of any yourself. And since I’m in MoCo, I’ll even limit it to local issues.

Democrat taking points that I disagree with:

- Thrive Montgomery (concocted, promoted and endorsed by County Democrats)

- Removing SROs from schools (bad decision not supported by principals)

- Defunding the police (again, bad idea, when people are constantly having their cars rifles though, and when our local Safeway regularly has items stolen… crime is clearly a concern when you want a safe place to raise your family

- Being a sanctuary county (encouraging undocumented immigrants to break federal laws and risk their lives to come work crappy jobs is not compassionate, it is greedy)

- MCPS (the public school system is in shambles - the Democrats and the Teachers Union have worked hard to destroy a once-solid school system. The hyper focus on race and Equity have led to a huge decline)

There are plenty more Dem ideals that I disagree with. Really, anyone looking for a safe place to raise a family and educate their kids should have some qualms about voting for any Democrat candidate. Especially after how the solidly Democratic leadership in MoCo handled Covid and continues to screw over our kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Hindus here are basically followers of Modi. They hate the Muslims and are basically extreme Right wing fundamentalists. Unfortunately, they get pissed when I suggest that we should go back to the purest time of Indian culture where learned Brahmins were the rulers and policy makers, and low caste Baniyas were just tea sellers. That is unacceptable to them. LOL. These people think they are White. Ask any White how much they hate these Brownies.

- Hindu Brahmin who hates the fundamentalist India and the fundamentalist USA equally. I will always fight for rights of all people. Fine if someone wants to call me the liberal elite progressive. I am ok with it.

Funny, I'm a white Republican and have plenty of Indian-American friends whom I respect and admire greatly. I don't know anyone who refers to Indians as "Brownies" - except, of course, bigoted liberal elite progressives, like you.

DP

Not to mention the irony and hypocrisy of that poster signing off as a ‘Hindu Brahmin’

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As an AA female, I’m not surprised. However, these viewpoints appear so short-sighted to me. It is the democrat values and hard work to implement change that have allowed the US to become this great place y’all are talking about. Without the democrats, you would not have the opportunities you are so pleased to pursue. You think the republicans would be welcoming you with open arms if left to their own devices?

You seem like you don't get out much. Much of the Indian community has long been staunchly Republican. Were you aware?

Np. Not around me. Also the insults were unnecessary.