Lockdown at Blair?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be focusing on the county's inability to keep our students safe - regardless of which school they attend. I put the blame on the County Council and they need to come up with a solution now.


You put the blame on the County Council, why?


Because they removed the SROs (after full disapproval from ALL MCPS high school principals) and promised a whole bunch of mental health advisors and social workers to replace them. Only the first half has happened. Yes, they are to be blamed.

+1 I emailed them to NOT remove the SROs. I can't stand the MoCo progressives. And I'm not a Trumpster.

They removed the SRO because some woke people said kids feel "threatened" by the cops in the school. Gosh,do they feel more safe with a school shooter or knife wielder in the school?


I emailed them about SROs but I know they would never take bold action to keep them. Peopel were complaining that police were arresting disproportionately more POC (and males), but notice they never commented about if these were "good" arrests or they got thrown out of court.. I suspect largely because they did lead to prosecution.

It'll be interesting to see what happens to this suspect. If he ends up in juvenile detention, then he'll attend RICA for schooling, but if not.. well MCPS has no place to put him except the same or another school. They used to have a high school just for bad kids -- Mark Twain in Rockville -- but that was shut down 20 years ago with great fanfare.

Just like the rapist in the Damascus locker room case -- he had been transferred around between schools becuase that's all they could do. I believe Damascus was his third high school.

I won't feel so bad when I make our next tuition payment for private school. We left MCPS last year.
Anonymous
I think it’s nuts that people are generalizing about MCPS when there are a handful of incidents in a district with 180,000 kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be focusing on the county's inability to keep our students safe - regardless of which school they attend. I put the blame on the County Council and they need to come up with a solution now.


You put the blame on the County Council, why?


Because they removed the SROs (after full disapproval from ALL MCPS high school principals) and promised a whole bunch of mental health advisors and social workers to replace them. Only the first half has happened. Yes, they are to be blamed.

+1 I emailed them to NOT remove the SROs. I can't stand the MoCo progressives. And I'm not a Trumpster.

They removed the SRO because some woke people said kids feel "threatened" by the cops in the school. Gosh,do they feel more safe with a school shooter or knife wielder in the school?


Would the SROs have stopped the knife wielder from entering the parking lot? And is there any correlation between school shootings and police in schools?

What we do know is that the pandemic has been associated with overall increases in violent crime. It's not surprising that some of that crime is occurring in schools. We also know that we do not have any actual evidence showing that police in schools reduces violence, and that violence by police against students happens and is real. So maybe you should talk to some of those students before make blithe comments about what type of violence they prefer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be focusing on the county's inability to keep our students safe - regardless of which school they attend. I put the blame on the County Council and they need to come up with a solution now.


You put the blame on the County Council, why?


Because they removed the SROs (after full disapproval from ALL MCPS high school principals) and promised a whole bunch of mental health advisors and social workers to replace them. Only the first half has happened. Yes, they are to be blamed.

+1 I emailed them to NOT remove the SROs. I can't stand the MoCo progressives. And I'm not a Trumpster.

They removed the SRO because some woke people said kids feel "threatened" by the cops in the school. Gosh,do they feel more safe with a school shooter or knife wielder in the school?


Would the SROs have stopped the knife wielder from entering the parking lot? And is there any correlation between school shootings and police in schools?

What we do know is that the pandemic has been associated with overall increases in violent crime. It's not surprising that some of that crime is occurring in schools. We also know that we do not have any actual evidence showing that police in schools reduces violence, and that violence by police against students happens and is real. So maybe you should talk to some of those students before make blithe comments about what type of violence they prefer.


Of course not. And if pass incidents are any indication the SRO would have probably run away.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is ridiculous. There have been 3 stabbings at an MCPS highschool since September, and it's only November. WTF. We are one of the richest counties in the richest state in the richest country. We need to get our sh!t together and get the HS SROs back, bring mental health counselors in, and whatever else the incompetent council promised. You can't deny the fact that ever since the council stuck their nose into the SRO business, that things have gone downhill. Let the principals who wanted the SROs to stay lead these schools. We don't need clueless people like Jawando to make decisions regarding school security.

What other stabbings have taken place at MoCo schools this fall? I know a Whitman student assaulted a female student at Churchill and brandished a knife when people tried to intervene (it’s not clear from the reports whether or not the victim was actually stabbed). What else besides this incident at Blair?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1P UPDATE: just watched @mcpnews
walk a young male in handcuffs out of Blair HS. Reached out to @MCPS
to confirm this is the stabbing suspect.
@fox5dc

https://twitter.com/RamirezReports/status/1457771001173856262


Wow. They walked him ‘out of Blair’ in handcuffs? That would mean he was at the school.

Kudos to MCPD for getting the assailant.


According to email sent by school, the suspect fled and parent returned him to school where he turned himself in to police.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be focusing on the county's inability to keep our students safe - regardless of which school they attend. I put the blame on the County Council and they need to come up with a solution now.


You put the blame on the County Council, why?


Because they removed the SROs (after full disapproval from ALL MCPS high school principals) and promised a whole bunch of mental health advisors and social workers to replace them. Only the first half has happened. Yes, they are to be blamed.

+1 I emailed them to NOT remove the SROs. I can't stand the MoCo progressives. And I'm not a Trumpster.

They removed the SRO because some woke people said kids feel "threatened" by the cops in the school. Gosh,do they feel more safe with a school shooter or knife wielder in the school?


Would the SROs have stopped the knife wielder from entering the parking lot? And is there any correlation between school shootings and police in schools?

What we do know is that the pandemic has been associated with overall increases in violent crime. It's not surprising that some of that crime is occurring in schools. We also know that we do not have any actual evidence showing that police in schools reduces violence, and that violence by police against students happens and is real. So maybe you should talk to some of those students before make blithe comments about what type of violence they prefer.


Which jewelry store is more likely to be robbed -- the one with a security guard standing there, or the one without a security guard?

How did that student bring a knife to school? If an SRO was there, they may have known the student had issues, and to look out for them, and maybe even search them if there was a suspicion. The student may not have brought a weapon on campus if they knew the SRO was around to keep an eye on them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be focusing on the county's inability to keep our students safe - regardless of which school they attend. I put the blame on the County Council and they need to come up with a solution now.


You put the blame on the County Council, why?


Because they removed the SROs (after full disapproval from ALL MCPS high school principals) and promised a whole bunch of mental health advisors and social workers to replace them. Only the first half has happened. Yes, they are to be blamed.

+1 I emailed them to NOT remove the SROs. I can't stand the MoCo progressives. And I'm not a Trumpster.

They removed the SRO because some woke people said kids feel "threatened" by the cops in the school. Gosh,do they feel more safe with a school shooter or knife wielder in the school?


Would the SROs have stopped the knife wielder from entering the parking lot? And is there any correlation between school shootings and police in schools?

What we do know is that the pandemic has been associated with overall increases in violent crime. It's not surprising that some of that crime is occurring in schools. We also know that we do not have any actual evidence showing that police in schools reduces violence, and that violence by police against students happens and is real. So maybe you should talk to some of those students before make blithe comments about what type of violence they prefer.

An SRO is a deterent. I went to a tough HS, much tougher than Blair. It's like having a parent around vs not. If the parent is around, the kid is less likely to do bad things.

Why do the Principals want SROs? They are on the ground. Not the city council. What do you do for a living?

How many SROs attacked students in MPCS for no cause? How many were charged and convicted of assaulting a student?

Maybe you should talk to the Principals before making blithe comments about how police are bad for schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be focusing on the county's inability to keep our students safe - regardless of which school they attend. I put the blame on the County Council and they need to come up with a solution now.


You put the blame on the County Council, why?


Because they removed the SROs (after full disapproval from ALL MCPS high school principals) and promised a whole bunch of mental health advisors and social workers to replace them. Only the first half has happened. Yes, they are to be blamed.

+1 I emailed them to NOT remove the SROs. I can't stand the MoCo progressives. And I'm not a Trumpster.

They removed the SRO because some woke people said kids feel "threatened" by the cops in the school. Gosh,do they feel more safe with a school shooter or knife wielder in the school?


Would the SROs have stopped the knife wielder from entering the parking lot? And is there any correlation between school shootings and police in schools?

What we do know is that the pandemic has been associated with overall increases in violent crime. It's not surprising that some of that crime is occurring in schools. We also know that we do not have any actual evidence showing that police in schools reduces violence, and that violence by police against students happens and is real. So maybe you should talk to some of those students before make blithe comments about what type of violence they prefer.


Which jewelry store is more likely to be robbed -- the one with a security guard standing there, or the one without a security guard?

How did that student bring a knife to school? If an SRO was there, they may have known the student had issues, and to look out for them, and maybe even search them if there was a suspicion. The student may not have brought a weapon on campus if they knew the SRO was around to keep an eye on them.

+1 SRO caught a student up county who brought a gun to school. I bet those kids in that school were happy for the SRO, irrespective of their skin color.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be focusing on the county's inability to keep our students safe - regardless of which school they attend. I put the blame on the County Council and they need to come up with a solution now.


You put the blame on the County Council, why?


Because they removed the SROs (after full disapproval from ALL MCPS high school principals) and promised a whole bunch of mental health advisors and social workers to replace them. Only the first half has happened. Yes, they are to be blamed.

+1 I emailed them to NOT remove the SROs. I can't stand the MoCo progressives. And I'm not a Trumpster.

They removed the SRO because some woke people said kids feel "threatened" by the cops in the school. Gosh,do they feel more safe with a school shooter or knife wielder in the school?


Would the SROs have stopped the knife wielder from entering the parking lot? And is there any correlation between school shootings and police in schools?

What we do know is that the pandemic has been associated with overall increases in violent crime. It's not surprising that some of that crime is occurring in schools. We also know that we do not have any actual evidence showing that police in schools reduces violence, and that violence by police against students happens and is real. So maybe you should talk to some of those students before make blithe comments about what type of violence they prefer.


Of course not. And if pass incidents are any indication the SRO would have probably run away.

Which incident in MCPS had an SRO run away?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be focusing on the county's inability to keep our students safe - regardless of which school they attend. I put the blame on the County Council and they need to come up with a solution now.


You put the blame on the County Council, why?


Because they removed the SROs (after full disapproval from ALL MCPS high school principals) and promised a whole bunch of mental health advisors and social workers to replace them. Only the first half has happened. Yes, they are to be blamed.

+1 I emailed them to NOT remove the SROs. I can't stand the MoCo progressives. And I'm not a Trumpster.

They removed the SRO because some woke people said kids feel "threatened" by the cops in the school. Gosh,do they feel more safe with a school shooter or knife wielder in the school?


Would the SROs have stopped the knife wielder from entering the parking lot? And is there any correlation between school shootings and police in schools?

What we do know is that the pandemic has been associated with overall increases in violent crime. It's not surprising that some of that crime is occurring in schools. We also know that we do not have any actual evidence showing that police in schools reduces violence, and that violence by police against students happens and is real. So maybe you should talk to some of those students before make blithe comments about what type of violence they prefer.

An SRO is a deterent. I went to a tough HS, much tougher than Blair. It's like having a parent around vs not. If the parent is around, the kid is less likely to do bad things.

Why do the Principals want SROs? They are on the ground. Not the city council. What do you do for a living?

How many SROs attacked students in MPCS for no cause? How many were charged and convicted of assaulting a student?

Maybe you should talk to the Principals before making blithe comments about how police are bad for schools.


There's no data supporting your assertions and my comments where not blithe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be focusing on the county's inability to keep our students safe - regardless of which school they attend. I put the blame on the County Council and they need to come up with a solution now.


You put the blame on the County Council, why?


Because they removed the SROs (after full disapproval from ALL MCPS high school principals) and promised a whole bunch of mental health advisors and social workers to replace them. Only the first half has happened. Yes, they are to be blamed.

+1 I emailed them to NOT remove the SROs. I can't stand the MoCo progressives. And I'm not a Trumpster.

They removed the SRO because some woke people said kids feel "threatened" by the cops in the school. Gosh,do they feel more safe with a school shooter or knife wielder in the school?


Would the SROs have stopped the knife wielder from entering the parking lot? And is there any correlation between school shootings and police in schools?

What we do know is that the pandemic has been associated with overall increases in violent crime. It's not surprising that some of that crime is occurring in schools. We also know that we do not have any actual evidence showing that police in schools reduces violence, and that violence by police against students happens and is real. So maybe you should talk to some of those students before make blithe comments about what type of violence they prefer.


The police caught the suspect and they are in custody because the police were either on campus or close to it.
Had they not been there the suspect would have been free to stab more people.
You really need to take a few days and reflect on the logic of arguing about whether or not the police help reduce crime, dude.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Everyone should be focusing on the county's inability to keep our students safe - regardless of which school they attend. I put the blame on the County Council and they need to come up with a solution now.


You put the blame on the County Council, why?


Because they removed the SROs (after full disapproval from ALL MCPS high school principals) and promised a whole bunch of mental health advisors and social workers to replace them. Only the first half has happened. Yes, they are to be blamed.

+1 I emailed them to NOT remove the SROs. I can't stand the MoCo progressives. And I'm not a Trumpster.

They removed the SRO because some woke people said kids feel "threatened" by the cops in the school. Gosh,do they feel more safe with a school shooter or knife wielder in the school?


Would the SROs have stopped the knife wielder from entering the parking lot? And is there any correlation between school shootings and police in schools?

What we do know is that the pandemic has been associated with overall increases in violent crime. It's not surprising that some of that crime is occurring in schools. We also know that we do not have any actual evidence showing that police in schools reduces violence, and that violence by police against students happens and is real. So maybe you should talk to some of those students before make blithe comments about what type of violence they prefer.

An SRO is a deterent. I went to a tough HS, much tougher than Blair. It's like having a parent around vs not. If the parent is around, the kid is less likely to do bad things.

Why do the Principals want SROs? They are on the ground. Not the city council. What do you do for a living?

How many SROs attacked students in MPCS for no cause? How many were charged and convicted of assaulting a student?

Maybe you should talk to the Principals before making blithe comments about how police are bad for schools.


There's no data supporting your assertions and my comments where not blithe.

There's no data that supports my assertion because there have been zero SROs charged with assaulting a student in MCPS for no cause. So, it counters your own statement "that violence by police against students happens and is real." in MCPS. You are trying to paint a broadbrush of SROs from other parts of the country. I could paint a broadbrush about certaing groups here, too, and you would be outraged by that.

My comments weren't blithe, either.

You also didn't respond to the question of what you do? Do you work inside of the schools?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1P UPDATE: just watched @mcpnews
walk a young male in handcuffs out of Blair HS. Reached out to @MCPS
to confirm this is the stabbing suspect.
@fox5dc

https://twitter.com/RamirezReports/status/1457771001173856262


Wow. They walked him ‘out of Blair’ in handcuffs? That would mean he was at the school.

Kudos to MCPD for getting the assailant.


According to email sent by school, the suspect fled and parent returned him to school where he turned himself in to police.


Really? The school principal put those words into an email? Really?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1P UPDATE: just watched @mcpnews
walk a young male in handcuffs out of Blair HS. Reached out to @MCPS
to confirm this is the stabbing suspect.
@fox5dc

https://twitter.com/RamirezReports/status/1457771001173856262


Wow. They walked him ‘out of Blair’ in handcuffs? That would mean he was at the school.

Kudos to MCPD for getting the assailant.


According to email sent by school, the suspect fled and parent returned him to school where he turned himself in to police.


Really? The school principal put those words into an email? Really?


Yes. She did.
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