Stay at home wife - no kids

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Anonymous wrote:Why is there this idea that everyone needs to work? Let's have a Universal Basic Income and see how creative people become. and healthy. I bet it would be a second renaissance.

Who exactly do you think will fund this income if everyone doesn’t work?

UBI isn’t about giving people so much income that they can get all their wants met without having to work. It’s one of the few ideas that both leftist and libertarian economists agree upon. Check it out, it’s fascinating and I hope there is more political will for it soon.

Reread what the first person wrote. They said “why is there this idea that everyone needs to work”? If no one is working who is going to fund UBI?

“Everybody doesn’t need to work” isn’t the same thing as everybody not working. We already know that having enough to get your basic needs met won’t stop people from working to get more money.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s common in other countries. As long as it works for the couple, why do you care?

I’m just curious how they can do it without one side feeling resentful.

I know many couples like this. They met when they were students, often in a professional graduate program. Both worked and when the kids started coming, they decided to have a stay-at-home parent to manage the home front. All of them are still married and happily looking forward their golden years.

This is not what the thread is about. You're talking about women who worked at first, but then stayed home to raise their kids. This thread is about women who get married (assuming in 20s or 30s), don't have kids, and just prefer not to work, but would rather spend their time taking care of the house, cooking, etc., and assuming no extenuating circumstances like a major health issue.

I think women who initially worked but then stayed home to raise their kids are in a different category. First of all, once the kids are grown, it's not as if it's easy to go back to the workforce in the job you left 18 years ago. They may not want a job just for the sake of just having a job... why would they want to flip burgers at McDonald's when they're at a point in their lives with they have significant savings and are very financially well off (albeit due to their DH's work)? I wonder if it were easier to get back in, if more women would choose to go back into their old careers?

I would!!!

OP I generally see what you’re saying. But isn’t it weird that for white women a mere 70 years ago, this was the societal expectation??? And now we look at women like that and think they’re lazy or entitled or have some mystery illness.

If your spouse is not resentful when you were a SAHW (for whatever reason) why would he be resentful if you are a SAHM? My DH has high expectations for our kids. He wants them to be healthy, happy, well socialized, high achieving, passionate, secure, connected, enriched, fulfilled, moral...and my one job is to make that happen. He is immensely grateful as to how our kids have turned out.

As for going back to work? A hard pass to that. First of all, it is WORK. It is taking away from the finite time I have on this Earth away from my family, myself, my relationships and my hobbies. Every single day, I am giving the best time of my day to someone else. And for what? I am basically selling something instead of making the Earth a better place. Why would I do that if I did not need the money. Also, US is not that great for working women and working moms. No, Thank You. There is a reason why women left the workplace in droves during the pandemic. Not worth it for me. Of course, this is only possible if you have the finances to swing this.

If you have no skills or capital to contribute to any organization, then I can see why you would take the path of least resistance and just stay home with your ‘hobbies’ even after your kids have flown the nest.

My skills and energy are for the betterment of my children and family first and foremost. I don't need the money so I don't work. I don't need the money so I can choose my pet causes and volunteer my time for that. I am better educated than most people I have met (yes, lots of college degrees and most of my college education has been through merit scholarship and through my employers. I truly feel that the fact that I have raised two great kids is the best work I have done. Most people work because they need to pay the bills. No one is working because they are Mother Teresa.

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I am creative, intelligent and educated enough to be at home without earning a paycheck and be happy, fulfilled and entertained. I mean are some people such dunces that they don't know what to do with their time if they are not working for someone from 9-5 every day? Then they surely deserve to work.

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Do people actually think they are superior because they work in an office, using their skills to help some ultra-wealthy person get even richer? I mean, who is smarter, the stay at home wife baking bread and reading novels or the Amazon corporate employee busting their ass to make 100K a year and enrich Bezos in the process?

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Napoleon is always right. I will work harder.
- Henry the Horse (Animal Farm)

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Anonymous wrote:Do people actually think they are superior because they work in an office, using their skills to help some ultra-wealthy person get even richer? I mean, who is smarter, the stay at home wife baking bread and reading novels or the Amazon corporate employee busting their ass to make 100K a year and enrich Bezos in the process?

The stay at home wife baking bread needs the corporate employee husband more than he needs her. With no kids, no alimony. She has no leg to stand on if they divorce.

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I only know one couple like this, and she seems so entitled. He funds her pet projects but then she'll talk about HER "profits." And I'm thinking...ok but his startup money was way more, so that's not profit.

I don't ultimately care. I just wish she were more appreciative that her husband doesn't care either.

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Anonymous wrote:Do people actually think they are superior because they work in an office, using their skills to help some ultra-wealthy person get even richer? I mean, who is smarter, the stay at home wife baking bread and reading novels or the Amazon corporate employee busting their ass to make 100K a year and enrich Bezos in the process?

The stay at home wife baking bread needs the corporate employee husband more than he needs her. With no kids, no alimony. She has no leg to stand on if they divorce.

In my hypothetical, I wasn’t envisioning them as married to each other.

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Stay at home wife with no kids who’s creating content for OnlyFans could be making tons of money

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Anonymous wrote:Do people actually think they are superior because they work in an office, using their skills to help some ultra-wealthy person get even richer? I mean, who is smarter, the stay at home wife baking bread and reading novels or the Amazon corporate employee busting their ass to make 100K a year and enrich Bezos in the process?

The stay at home wife baking bread needs the corporate employee husband more than he needs her. With no kids, no alimony. She has no leg to stand on if they divorce.

Uffff the fear of a bad marriage and cheating husband!!! Is that what fuels the working woman? Ladies, here is my advice. Choose your partner carefully and leave the marriage if the person is a jerk.

It seems like all of you are earning to pay your DH to stay with you. Not worth it imho.

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Anonymous wrote:Stay at home wife with no kids who’s creating content for OnlyFans could be making tons of money

Or the “working woman”.
Also depends if you are hot enough or depraved enough.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s common in other countries. As long as it works for the couple, why do you care?

I’m just curious how they can do it without one side feeling resentful.

I know many couples like this. They met when they were students, often in a professional graduate program. Both worked and when the kids started coming, they decided to have a stay-at-home parent to manage the home front. All of them are still married and happily looking forward their golden years.

This is not what the thread is about. You're talking about women who worked at first, but then stayed home to raise their kids. This thread is about women who get married (assuming in 20s or 30s), don't have kids, and just prefer not to work, but would rather spend their time taking care of the house, cooking, etc., and assuming no extenuating circumstances like a major health issue.

I think women who initially worked but then stayed home to raise their kids are in a different category. First of all, once the kids are grown, it's not as if it's easy to go back to the workforce in the job you left 18 years ago. They may not want a job just for the sake of just having a job... why would they want to flip burgers at McDonald's when they're at a point in their lives with they have significant savings and are very financially well off (albeit due to their DH's work)? I wonder if it were easier to get back in, if more women would choose to go back into their old careers?

I would!!!

OP I generally see what you’re saying. But isn’t it weird that for white women a mere 70 years ago, this was the societal expectation??? And now we look at women like that and think they’re lazy or entitled or have some mystery illness.

If your spouse is not resentful when you were a SAHW (for whatever reason) why would he be resentful if you are a SAHM? My DH has high expectations for our kids. He wants them to be healthy, happy, well socialized, high achieving, passionate, secure, connected, enriched, fulfilled, moral...and my one job is to make that happen. He is immensely grateful as to how our kids have turned out.

As for going back to work? A hard pass to that. First of all, it is WORK. It is taking away from the finite time I have on this Earth away from my family, myself, my relationships and my hobbies. Every single day, I am giving the best time of my day to someone else. And for what? I am basically selling something instead of making the Earth a better place. Why would I do that if I did not need the money. Also, US is not that great for working women and working moms. No, Thank You. There is a reason why women left the workplace in droves during the pandemic. Not worth it for me. Of course, this is only possible if you have the finances to swing this.

If you have no skills or capital to contribute to any organization, then I can see why you would take the path of least resistance and just stay home with your ‘hobbies’ even after your kids have flown the nest.

My skills and energy are for the betterment of my children and family first and foremost. I don't need the money so I don't work. I don't need the money so I can choose my pet causes and volunteer my time for that. I am better educated than most people I have met (yes, lots of college degrees and most of my college education has been through merit scholarship and through my employers. I truly feel that the fact that I have raised two great kids is the best work I have done. Most people work because they need to pay the bills. No one is working because they are Mother Teresa.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is there this idea that everyone needs to work? Let's have a Universal Basic Income and see how creative people become. and healthy. I bet it would be a second renaissance.

Who exactly do you think will fund this income if everyone doesn’t work?

This. Why should working people have to give up part of their income to fund people who want to pursue artistic pursuits instead of getting a job to support themselves? People would quit in droves if they could get a $60K annuity or whatever figure you have in mind. Remember that for most of the country, we're not talking about people walking away from $150K+ salaries.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s common in other countries. As long as it works for the couple, why do you care?

I’m just curious how they can do it without one side feeling resentful.

I know many couples like this. They met when they were students, often in a professional graduate program. Both worked and when the kids started coming, they decided to have a stay-at-home parent to manage the home front. All of them are still married and happily looking forward their golden years.

This is not what the thread is about. You're talking about women who worked at first, but then stayed home to raise their kids. This thread is about women who get married (assuming in 20s or 30s), don't have kids, and just prefer not to work, but would rather spend their time taking care of the house, cooking, etc., and assuming no extenuating circumstances like a major health issue.

I think women who initially worked but then stayed home to raise their kids are in a different category. First of all, once the kids are grown, it's not as if it's easy to go back to the workforce in the job you left 18 years ago. They may not want a job just for the sake of just having a job... why would they want to flip burgers at McDonald's when they're at a point in their lives with they have significant savings and are very financially well off (albeit due to their DH's work)? I wonder if it were easier to get back in, if more women would choose to go back into their old careers?

I would!!!

OP I generally see what you’re saying. But isn’t it weird that for white women a mere 70 years ago, this was the societal expectation??? And now we look at women like that and think they’re lazy or entitled or have some mystery illness.

If your spouse is not resentful when you were a SAHW (for whatever reason) why would he be resentful if you are a SAHM? My DH has high expectations for our kids. He wants them to be healthy, happy, well socialized, high achieving, passionate, secure, connected, enriched, fulfilled, moral...and my one job is to make that happen. He is immensely grateful as to how our kids have turned out.

As for going back to work? A hard pass to that. First of all, it is WORK. It is taking away from the finite time I have on this Earth away from my family, myself, my relationships and my hobbies. Every single day, I am giving the best time of my day to someone else. And for what? I am basically selling something instead of making the Earth a better place. Why would I do that if I did not need the money. Also, US is not that great for working women and working moms. No, Thank You. There is a reason why women left the workplace in droves during the pandemic. Not worth it for me. Of course, this is only possible if you have the finances to swing this.

If you have no skills or capital to contribute to any organization, then I can see why you would take the path of least resistance and just stay home with your ‘hobbies’ even after your kids have flown the nest.

My skills and energy are for the betterment of my children and family first and foremost. I don't need the money so I don't work. I don't need the money so I can choose my pet causes and volunteer my time for that. I am better educated than most people I have met (yes, lots of college degrees and most of my college education has been through merit scholarship and through my employers. I truly feel that the fact that I have raised two great kids is the best work I have done. Most people work because they need to pay the bills. No one is working because they are Mother Teresa.

Lots of people are jealous that you're able to afford to stay home and your family enjoys a much better quality of life. The sentiment that their ability to drone on and on about work at parties makes them more sought after is laughable. I say this as someone with a 20+ year successful career who doesn't want to hear about anyone's work. DC collectively has the worst social skills.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do people actually think they are superior because they work in an office, using their skills to help some ultra-wealthy person get even richer? I mean, who is smarter, the stay at home wife baking bread and reading novels or the Amazon corporate employee busting their ass to make 100K a year and enrich Bezos in the process?

The stay at home wife baking bread needs the corporate employee husband more than he needs her. With no kids, no alimony. She has no leg to stand on if they divorce.

Uffff the fear of a bad marriage and cheating husband!!! Is that what fuels the working woman? Ladies, here is my advice. Choose your partner carefully and leave the marriage if the person is a jerk.

It seems like all of you are earning to pay your DH to stay with you. Not worth it imho.

I'm not sure if you remember for most of human history, women have been entirely dependent on men for money and it sucks. Women weren't considered their own persons and were trapped in marriages. Why? Because they didn't have their own assets or resources. Women have fought for centuries to be taken seriously and while it's okay if you don't want to work PP, don't be smug about your choice. If a man can work without judgement, women can too.