Biden strikes out with King Manchin

[Anonymous]

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Yes. A crock of bull - your bull.

Border crisis - The situation at the border is a direct result of a combination of climate change and GOP-driven foreign policies that have impacted, separately, Haiti and central and South America. Biden is navigating a tough scenario on multiple borders and he and his administration addressing the crises as effectively as possible.

Afghanistan - Maybe of Trump hadn’t double dealed directly with the Taliban in 2020, literally inviting them to Camp David, and thereby undermining the Afghanistan government Afghanistan withdrawal would have been smoother. But nonetheless, anyone with a brain and a tiny bit of knowledge of how these withdrawals go would have known that it was going to be tough. The Taliban is a terrorist organization. Biden and his administration nonetheless got hundreds of thousands of people out and have successfully negotiated continued removal of allies and citizens.

Inflation - It’s temporary and already declining. A result of all those stimulus checks Trump was so excited to pump out to taxpayers and supply chain challenges due to covid. But sure, make it about Biden since you apparently have one line of thinking.

Foreign allies turning on the US - This made me laugh. They turned against the US with Trump. Wake up. Where have you been for the last four years?!

Nation more divided - Show me the polls and evidence. The last president tried to overthrow the government and the free and fair election. He encouraged a violent insurrection and aligned himself with white supremacy and violent militias. Do be specific on your response to this, Vlad.

All facts. Except for the Vlad part. The con pp is all homegrown, the result of being propagandized for several years.

Sure. That must be why Biden is getting slammed in the media for going on vacay amidst all the crises the GOP has caused...... LOL

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/22/us/politics/biden-democrats-afghanistan-virus-midterms.html
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-09-20/biden-to-face-largest-world-stage-of-his-tenure-after-crises-from-afghanistan-to-france-and-beyond
https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/biden-faces-u-n-general-assembly-amid-foreign-policy-crises-121454661552
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58416848
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/568816-biden-grapples-with-twin-crises
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-goes-for-bike-ride-at-the-beach-amid-national-crises-refuses-to-answer-questions
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/aug/13/joe-biden-resumes-vacation-while-crises-rage-home-/
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/14/politics/biden-august-crises-afghanistan-covid-inflation-border/index.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Manchin holds tight, he is actually doing a favor to the Dems in swing districts.

They don't want to vote for this boondoggle... they know their reelection hinges on crap like this.

If this boondoggle is so bad for Dems in swing districts, why did so many of them run on these very proposals in 2020? They love to talk up these issues when its time to get votes because they're incredibly popular.

Josh Gottheimer: Josh has consistently fought to protect access to affordable health care and lower out of pocket costs for prescription drugs, worked to tackle climate change through the introduction of his Five Point Green Action Plan..."

Kyrsten Sinema: "Coverage for pre-existing conditions

Prescription drug costs

Medicare for our seniors

It’s all on the ballot this year, so we all need to vote."

Carolyn Bordeaux: "Every day, I hear from Georgia families struggling with the rising costs of prescription drugs and that’s why I made taking on this crisis the centerpiece of my 2018 campaign for Congress,” Bourdeaux said. “I watched my own parents drain their bank accounts to pay for medication before they passed away. It’s with them in mind that I’m so heartened to see Congress take action to bring down prescription drug prices and provide much-needed relief to working families."

[Anonymous]

UFB

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Anonymous wrote:UFB

If she and Manchin are taking money to vote a certain way, how is that not illegal?

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Watching the government restrict monoclonal antibodies in certain states to try and control their governors tells me exactly why I want NOTHING to do with any sort of Federally controlled health insurance. It also tells me why the V.A. is in such shambles, and why Medicare sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Manchin holds tight, he is actually doing a favor to the Dems in swing districts.

They don't want to vote for this boondoggle... they know their reelection hinges on crap like this.

If this boondoggle is so bad for Dems in swing districts, why did so many of them run on these very proposals in 2020? They love to talk up these issues when its time to get votes because they're incredibly popular.

Josh Gottheimer: Josh has consistently fought to protect access to affordable health care and lower out of pocket costs for prescription drugs, worked to tackle climate change through the introduction of his Five Point Green Action Plan..."

Kyrsten Sinema: "Coverage for pre-existing conditions

Prescription drug costs

Medicare for our seniors

It’s all on the ballot this year, so we all need to vote."

Carolyn Bordeaux: "Every day, I hear from Georgia families struggling with the rising costs of prescription drugs and that’s why I made taking on this crisis the centerpiece of my 2018 campaign for Congress,” Bourdeaux said. “I watched my own parents drain their bank accounts to pay for medication before they passed away. It’s with them in mind that I’m so heartened to see Congress take action to bring down prescription drug prices and provide much-needed relief to working families."

Because the faux moderates, aka hardcore Republicans, don’t like these things and are happy to come on here and bash all that stuff like it’s the most insane stuff ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watching the government restrict monoclonal antibodies in certain states to try and control their governors tells me exactly why I want NOTHING to do with any sort of Federally controlled health insurance. It also tells me why the V.A. is in such shambles, and why Medicare sucks.

Sorry that you think that states in which people have been responsible and gotten vaccinated should suffer because DeSantis is personally profiting from the sale of monoclonal antibodies. Because that’s what it is. The red states are sucking all the monoclonal antibodies in lieu of getting vaccinated, leaving no monoclonal antibodies for treating any breakthrough cases in blue states. Thank god the government is stepping in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watching the government restrict monoclonal antibodies in certain states to try and control their governors tells me exactly why I want NOTHING to do with any sort of Federally controlled health insurance. It also tells me why the V.A. is in such shambles, and why Medicare sucks.

We are literally running out of monoclonal antibodies, therefore the federal government has to RATION the supplies. This is basic common sense.

Also basic common sense: getting a COVID vaccine so you don't use up the limited supply of monoclonal antibodies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The $3.5T bill is ridiculous. It's not clear what is in it and no way to balance it with future revenue. We are spending money like it grows on trees.

Limits and cuts are coming.

Late last week Biden held marathon meetings with nearly two dozen progressive and moderate lawmakers to get his agenda passed.

He's now considering limits to tuition-free community college and universal childcare to cut down the massive, progressive-backed $3.5 trillion package in a bid to pacify moderates and spending hawks.

The White House and Democratic leaders are weighing attaching or strengthening income caps to a number of key agenda items, according to two officials familiar with the discussions.

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And Sinema is openly soliciting campaign contributions from people who are opposed to the infrastructure plan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/us/politics/sinema-fund-raiser-social-climate-bill.html?searchResultPosition=1

I look forward to the day we can stop pretending Sinema and Manchin are anything resembling Democrats.

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Anonymous wrote:And Sinema is openly soliciting campaign contributions from people who are opposed to the infrastructure plan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/us/politics/sinema-fund-raiser-social-climate-bill.html?searchResultPosition=1

I look forward to the day we can stop pretending Sinema and Manchin are anything resembling Democrats.

Oh well, too bad so sad. Moderate Dem here and I agree with her. $3.5 trillion is too much for too little. Maybe if the Dems hadn't been stuffing their plates with all the cookies they would have gotten something passed but $1 trillion for free childcare, free nationwide pre-school, free college, free maternity/paternity leave, free school lunches, free housing on top of $300 per child per month payments already lining pockets.

Everything's FREE. What exactly are the parents paying for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The $3.5T bill is ridiculous. It's not clear what is in it and no way to balance it with future revenue. We are spending money like it grows on trees.

Limits and cuts are coming.

Late last week Biden held marathon meetings with nearly two dozen progressive and moderate lawmakers to get his agenda passed.

He's now considering limits to tuition-free community college and universal childcare to cut down the massive, progressive-backed $3.5 trillion package in a bid to pacify moderates and spending hawks.

The White House and Democratic leaders are weighing attaching or strengthening income caps to a number of key agenda items, according to two officials familiar with the discussions.

I hope the the child tax credit income caps are $150,000 per household because what it is now is ridiculous. Why are people making $400,000 getting paid $1,200/month for four children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The $3.5T bill is ridiculous. It's not clear what is in it and no way to balance it with future revenue. We are spending money like it grows on trees.

Limits and cuts are coming.

Late last week Biden held marathon meetings with nearly two dozen progressive and moderate lawmakers to get his agenda passed.

He's now considering limits to tuition-free community college and universal childcare to cut down the massive, progressive-backed $3.5 trillion package in a bid to pacify moderates and spending hawks.

The White House and Democratic leaders are weighing attaching or strengthening income caps to a number of key agenda items, according to two officials familiar with the discussions.

I hope the the child tax credit income caps are $150,000 per household because what it is now is ridiculous. Why are people making $400,000 getting paid $1,200/month for four children?

As long as families with two healthy adult parents but only have one income (ie having a stay at home parent), we should not be penalizing high income households. If the government can subsidize the life choices of those who dont want to work, they can also provide benefit to those who do work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The $3.5T bill is ridiculous. It's not clear what is in it and no way to balance it with future revenue. We are spending money like it grows on trees.

Limits and cuts are coming.

Late last week Biden held marathon meetings with nearly two dozen progressive and moderate lawmakers to get his agenda passed.

He's now considering limits to tuition-free community college and universal childcare to cut down the massive, progressive-backed $3.5 trillion package in a bid to pacify moderates and spending hawks.

The White House and Democratic leaders are weighing attaching or strengthening income caps to a number of key agenda items, according to two officials familiar with the discussions.

I hope the the child tax credit income caps are $150,000 per household because what it is now is ridiculous. Why are people making $400,000 getting paid $1,200/month for four children?

As long as families with two healthy adult parents but only have one income (ie having a stay at home parent), we should not be penalizing high income households. If the government can subsidize the life choices of those who dont want to work, they can also provide benefit to those who do work.

If one person is choosing not to work that's on them. But the household is still making $400,000. There is no reason the income limits are this high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The $3.5T bill is ridiculous. It's not clear what is in it and no way to balance it with future revenue. We are spending money like it grows on trees.

Limits and cuts are coming.

Late last week Biden held marathon meetings with nearly two dozen progressive and moderate lawmakers to get his agenda passed.

He's now considering limits to tuition-free community college and universal childcare to cut down the massive, progressive-backed $3.5 trillion package in a bid to pacify moderates and spending hawks.

The White House and Democratic leaders are weighing attaching or strengthening income caps to a number of key agenda items, according to two officials familiar with the discussions.

I hope the the child tax credit income caps are $150,000 per household because what it is now is ridiculous. Why are people making $400,000 getting paid $1,200/month for four children?

As long as families with two healthy adult parents but only have one income (ie having a stay at home parent), we should not be penalizing high income households. If the government can subsidize the life choices of those who dont want to work, they can also provide benefit to those who do work.

If one person is choosing not to work that's on them. But the household is still making $400,000. There is no reason the income limits are this high.

Sure there is. People making $400k have expenses too. What makes your arbitrary cutoff number better than $400k?