Looks like a new Gaza war has started

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Not the first time Hamas fired rockets at a hospital.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

big surprise.

The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?

Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.

+10000

The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.

I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.

Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.

+1000

This, in a nutshell, sums it all up.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, what happens to Gazans for the next ten, twenty, thirty years? Is that really peace or the absence of war?

Palestinians in the West Bank are being murdered by Israeli Jews even when Hamas isn't involved Palestinians cat and will never win with Israel

By extremist settlers who most Israelis hate. But you knew that, right?

Because Israel allows them to steal Palestinian land. When is Bibi going to bulldoze those illegal settlements?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not the first time Hamas fired rockets at a hospital.

By pro-Palestine logic, Jews should be storming the embassies of every Muslim country around the world right now.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

big surprise.

The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?

Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.

+10000

The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.

I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.

Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.

+1000

This, in a nutshell, sums it all up.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, what happens to Gazans for the next ten, twenty, thirty years? Is that really peace or the absence of war?

Palestinians in the West Bank are being murdered by Israeli Jews even when Hamas isn't involved Palestinians cat and will never win with Israel

By extremist settlers who most Israelis hate. But you knew that, right?

Because Israel allows them to steal Palestinian land. When is Bibi going to bulldoze those illegal settlements?

Bibi let it happen. Bibi is a bad leader, with bad policy, and needs to go. But I still stand by Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

WTF. That was NOT their response. Their response was that terrorists were hiding there, and then they deleted it.

Israeli officials admitted it and we believed them

You keep saying that. I have not seen the tweet or the screenshot. Could you post it?

It has been posted at least 3-4 times on the prior pages. You are intentionally omitting because it does not serve your purpose.
You can google @HananyaNaftali now deleted tweet.

Is there anywhere in Gaza Hamas isn't hiding? I mean, seriously.

So you're fine with bombing hospitals? You are sick. This is what we are rallying against.
Israel has been merciless against Palestinians for nearly 100 years, and they are surprised when they create terrorist organizations.

What a jump you've made. Hamas is everywhere mixed in with Palestinian civilians. They don't come out and fight exactly do they, unless they're attacking teens at a music festival that is. Honestly, if Israel was merciless they would be carpet bombing Gaza. This is not that. Not by a long shot.

THEY ARE CARPET BOMBING GAZA.

Jesus F Christ. Are you not paying attention? They just bombed a hospital. For the second time this week.

The actual evidence suggests that it was a Hamas missile that hit the hospital, not israel, but sure, keep on with your narrative.

All the evidence shows Israel did it. Firstly, they are the ones dropping 6,000 bombs over Gaza. They threatened to bomb that very hospital just this week. And Hamas' missiles have never once had the capacity to implode buildings in the same way that Israeli weaponary has. But sure. It was a "missile gone awry"

DP

I doubt Israel would do this the day before the US President comes.

My money is on Russian mercenaries who have been training HAMAS -

Ukrainian officials have claimed that Russia's mercenary firm Wagner helped train Hamas soldiers. Meanwhile, Palestinian terrorist groups reportedly launder illicit funds through a Moscow-based crypto exchange.8 hours ago
https://www.washingtonpost.com › ...
Opinion | Vladimir Putin is helping Hamas to hurt the West - The Washington Post

It’s always Russia. Is Trump calling Putin and plotting this with Guiliani’s help?

[Anonymous]

This is a total nightmare for biden.
If it was israel that bombed the hospital, it puts him in a completely untenable position. As a jew it puts me in a completely untenable position.
they better have hard evidence that it wasn't them or this deteriorates into impossible territory.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's face it, Hamas is basically suicidal.

Quite the contrary. As I’ve predicted, an anti-Abbas Palestinian rally broke out in the West Bank city of Ramallah today and Israeli and Palestinian security forces had to tame the crowd .

I didn’t expect it to happen so soon but sadly Hamas is growing in momentum
in the West Bank.

It's because of the horrible hospital bombing. I find it more remarkable that over the past ten days there haven't been pro-Hamas protests in the West Bank. Not every Palestinian thinks massacring 1400 innocent people was a great idea.

And regarding the hospital bombing, regardless of who you think the baddies are in this conflict, all the available data and imagery shows that this was a failed rocket launch by Islamic Jihad. They were launching a barrage of rockets very close to the hospital. You can see the videos everywhere. And these are really primitive homemade rockets with no guidance mechanism. They are known to fail. Spend a little time on Telegraph and X, and you can see it was an errant Islamic Jihad rocket.

As always, reading this thread is very enlightening. And a little terrifying.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

big surprise.

The western media have been nothing but pure Israeli mouth pieces. Israel bombed a Reuters news team in Lebanon and Reuters even refused to say who did it. They just said that their reporter was killed by rockets coming from the direction of Israel. Because media can never hold Israel accountable.

It is part of the Israeli fascism. And employers here will fire anyone who shows even a modicum of support for Palestine. And who's the persecuted group?

Israel assassinated Shireen Abu Akleh last year — long before the October Hamas attacks. Even the the IDF was comfortable killing a world renowned journalist with an American passport and beating mourners at her funeral. This week, an emboldened IDF bombed the headquarters of the Associated Press and Al Jazeera. Israel has killed countless international journalists including BBC reporters.

There’s a reason to target journalists.

It makes it so much easier to control the narrative when you can discredit all reporting from Gaza as Hamas propaganda. It’s so much easier to hide atrocities when all credible sources are dead.

Throughout history, the good guys don’t kill journalists and bomb their offices.

The good guys don’t bomb evacuation routes.

The good guys don’t target civilians.

The good guys definitely don’t bomb hospitals.

+10000

The good guys here are Israel—not Hamas.

I see a terrorist state fighting a terrorist organization.

Wrong.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, there will be peace.

If Israel lays down its weapons, they will be annhilated.

+1000

This, in a nutshell, sums it all up.

If Hamas lays down its weapons, what happens to Gazans for the next ten, twenty, thirty years? Is that really peace or the absence of war?

Palestinians in the West Bank are being murdered by Israeli Jews even when Hamas isn't involved Palestinians cat and will never win with Israel

By extremist settlers who most Israelis hate. But you knew that, right?

Because Israel allows them to steal Palestinian land. When is Bibi going to bulldoze those illegal settlements?

Bibi let it happen. Bibi is a bad leader, with bad policy, and needs to go. But I still stand by Israel.

Yep. This is like saying the USA shouldn’t exist because Trump is awful.

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Anonymous wrote:Not the first time Hamas fired rockets at a hospital.

Um, yeah. do you notice a difference in the capacity of a Hamas rocket and an Israeli one? Here, the chair has been pushed over. In Israel's hospital strike tonight, over 500 people were killed instantly and the hospital literally blew up. Rubble everywhere.

Take a look again. I know you see it if you will just stop drinking the kool aid.

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so basically Hamas missile hits a Gaza hospital, a couple of new orgs misreport and blame Israel and now the entire middle east is blowing up.

Clearly not an Israeli missile.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

WTF. That was NOT their response. Their response was that terrorists were hiding there, and then they deleted it.

Israeli officials admitted it and we believed them

You keep saying that. I have not seen the tweet or the screenshot. Could you post it?

It has been posted at least 3-4 times on the prior pages. You are intentionally omitting because it does not serve your purpose.
You can google @HananyaNaftali now deleted tweet.

Is there anywhere in Gaza Hamas isn't hiding? I mean, seriously.

So you're fine with bombing hospitals? You are sick. This is what we are rallying against.
Israel has been merciless against Palestinians for nearly 100 years, and they are surprised when they create terrorist organizations.

There is almost no incentive for Israel to have bombed a hospital on the eve of Biden coming into the country. The independent, unedited video evidence suggests that it wasn't Israel who bombed the hospital, yet the Middle Eastern States and others have been quick to blame them.

Spot on. And there is every reason for Hamas to blame Israel for a mistake or perhaps they hit their own hospital in purpose. It is turning the international sentiment their way and giving them an excuse to pull out of talks with Biden. Absolutely works well for Hamas to blame Israel. And based on the rampant antisemitism we now see in the media, the media is happy to carry Hamas water rather than wait and see what the investigation turns up.

Honestly, you can take the "antisemitism" rant and shove it. WE are watching Israel murder people in real time. They have not once showed restraint or calculations in this. But anytime we point out a WAR CRIME it is anti-semitism. That claim no longer has teeth. You all have lost the plot by supporting genocide and mass murder while claiming to be oppressed.

Doctors are reporting they received an evacuation order from Israel 1 hour before the attack.

Did Hamas manufacture that too?

Reporting to who?

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Anonymous wrote:This is a total nightmare for biden.
If it was israel that bombed the hospital, it puts him in a completely untenable position. As a jew it puts me in a completely untenable position.
they better have hard evidence that it wasn't them or this deteriorates into impossible territory.

Putting aside the humanity of it, bombing a hospital right before Biden visits is the #1 stupidest thing the IDF could ever do.

The USA is Israel’s biggest benefactor and we’ve been urging restraint.

Why would Israel undermine its entire argument for needing aid right before POTUS comes?

You can say a lot about Bibi, but he’s not stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a total nightmare for biden.
If it was israel that bombed the hospital, it puts him in a completely untenable position. As a jew it puts me in a completely untenable position.
they better have hard evidence that it wasn't them or this deteriorates into impossible territory.

the problem here is that they will claim that it was Hamas for at least a year. After a year, they may quietly admit it - like they've done with the other atrocities - or continue to deny in spite of international investigations clearly indicating the opposite. Israel is never held to task. Never. Not once. I mean, the US bombed a hospital in Afghanistan and blamed it on the Afghanis for over a year. Same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I noted that as soon as the hospital was hit, Hamas blamed Israel. Immediately.

Israel's response was - "we need to research this before responding." They looked for video evidence, drone evidence and other evidence and it showed that the rocket was fired from within Gaza.

But, the media believed the terrorists. With no evidence.

WTF. That was NOT their response. Their response was that terrorists were hiding there, and then they deleted it.

Israeli officials admitted it and we believed them

You keep saying that. I have not seen the tweet or the screenshot. Could you post it?

It has been posted at least 3-4 times on the prior pages. You are intentionally omitting because it does not serve your purpose.
You can google @HananyaNaftali now deleted tweet.

Is there anywhere in Gaza Hamas isn't hiding? I mean, seriously.

So you're fine with bombing hospitals? You are sick. This is what we are rallying against.
Israel has been merciless against Palestinians for nearly 100 years, and they are surprised when they create terrorist organizations.

There is almost no incentive for Israel to have bombed a hospital on the eve of Biden coming into the country. The independent, unedited video evidence suggests that it wasn't Israel who bombed the hospital, yet the Middle Eastern States and others have been quick to blame them.

Spot on. And there is every reason for Hamas to blame Israel for a mistake or perhaps they hit their own hospital in purpose. It is turning the international sentiment their way and giving them an excuse to pull out of talks with Biden. Absolutely works well for Hamas to blame Israel. And based on the rampant antisemitism we now see in the media, the media is happy to carry Hamas water rather than wait and see what the investigation turns up.

Honestly, you can take the "antisemitism" rant and shove it. WE are watching Israel murder people in real time. They have not once showed restraint or calculations in this. But anytime we point out a WAR CRIME it is anti-semitism. That claim no longer has teeth. You all have lost the plot by supporting genocide and mass murder while claiming to be oppressed.

Doctors are reporting they received an evacuation order from Israel 1 hour before the attack.

Did Hamas manufacture that too?

Reporting to who?

CITE YOUR SOURCES PPL

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Iran’s foreign minister, Hossein Amir Abdollahian, said, “Time is Over,” in a post on X after the hospital explosion. On Monday, after his return from a regional tour to meet with leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah and Syria, he had warned that multiple fronts would be opened against Israel if its strikes continued to kill civilians.

- NYTimes

Awfully convenient, wouldn’t you say?