Meghan and Prince Harry are moving to the U.S./Canada - OFFICIAL

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of them leaving Archie in Canada with friends while they are in the UK?

With the caveat that I am more sensitive to this than most as we've lived overseas and in some places that weren't so safe, my spouse and I have a rule that one parent has to be on the same continent as the kids. I'm not judging them, but I find it a little surprising.

It does seem pretty cavalier.

He's 8 months, so portable. There's no reason to not bring him with. Maybe they're trying to have a reason why they cannot stay long to negotiate but need to get back right away. But it's just such a strange thing to do, to leave your new baby in Canada.

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Anonymous wrote:Lovely timing. What with Australia and all.

Timing was about Kate's birthday. Meghan seems to have a fixation.

Kate was a snotty SIL who did nothing to welcome Meghan. Didn't throw her an engagement party, bridal shower/hen do, or baby shower.

She refused to even meet with Meghan until Harry proposed.

Then after Meghan was constantly derided and attacked in comparison to her for two years, she said nothing.

Happy Birthday to Kate.

How do you know any of these are true?

I’m not PP but the fact she didn’t host those events for her is obvious in that they were hosted by other people...that said is that something most SILs would do? My DH has no sisters and I have no paternal aunts.

I actually don’t think it was necessarily anything against Meghan. Kate’s entire life revolves around William and he clearly doesn’t like her or didn’t want Harry to get married or whatever. Does Kate even have any friends that aren’t her mom or Pippa? You don’t even really see her spending much time with pippa anymore either.

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of them leaving Archie in Canada with friends while they are in the UK?

With the caveat that I am more sensitive to this than most as we've lived overseas and in some places that weren't so safe, my spouse and I have a rule that one parent has to be on the same continent as the kids. I'm not judging them, but I find it a little surprising.

It does seem pretty cavalier.

He's 8 months, so portable. There's no reason to not bring him with. Maybe they're trying to have a reason why they cannot stay long to negotiate but need to get back right away. But it's just such a strange thing to do, to leave your new baby in Canada.

DP here. To me it is absolutely a signal that this is merely a brief visit and nothing more. Gather some mementos they left in Windsor.

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Anonymous wrote:Madam Tussaund’s removes Harry and Meghan from the ‘royal family’ section of wax figures! Guess someone there Doesn’t care for them either.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnn.com/style/amp/duke-duchess-sussex-madame-tussauds-removal/index.html

Praise the Lord

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Anonymous wrote:Megan's friends and family betrayed her... she has good reason to cut them off. They are entitled to have a life. He is 5th, in line and realistically has no change of being king. Just going to events every day sounds miserable. He should move on with his life. He was the spare, has been replaced with more spares so there really isn't a place for him.

He was happy enjoying the perks of being a spare until he married. Didn’t hear a peep about a normal job and not accepting money from the royal family until Meghan came around. She thought she would be a celebrity marrying Harry and realized she had a place in the family, but not at the top. She will use her title to get everything she can. F tradition.

I thought Harry was quite upset at having to leave the military?

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Anonymous wrote:Megan's friends and family betrayed her... she has good reason to cut them off. They are entitled to have a life. He is 5th, in line and realistically has no change of being king. Just going to events every day sounds miserable. He should move on with his life. He was the spare, has been replaced with more spares so there really isn't a place for him.

The same place for him now as there was one, two, three years ago.

To be a prince. Not a baby.

Correct. He has always been sort of floating along - and headstrong Meghan pushed him into making a decision.

Time will tell if that was the right or wrong decision for him.

I do think he comes off as spoiled and ungrateful, though.

Good for her for encouraging her husband to create his own path in life. Maybe he needed her support to know its ok. He has a family and his own life. He is not going to be king. Neither is spoiled or ungrateful. In other countries, grandchildren not in immediate line are losing their titles, funding and place if you read CNN so he is probably following their lead. He should be able to choose his life now that William has his kids. Before his kids, he was the spare. Now he has been replaced and no true purpose.

Of course it's disrespectful. Quoting an earlier post:

It appeared that Harry had a great relationship with Will and Kate prior to his marriage. Could be coincidence. But I find it horribly disrespectful that Harry did not talk to his dad and especially the Queen before making the announcement public. They have supported the couple, emotionally and financially since they started dating. Meghan wouldn’t have had the wedding she had if not for the Queen, and she knew on that day what she was signing up for. I don’t begrudge them wanting to follow a different path, but Harry is a prince, has enjoyed the lavish lifestyle his whole life, and he could have handled this in a much kinder and respectful way. It’s just a slap in the face to the Queen, the taxpayers that funded his lifestyle, and his heritage in general. IMO, Meghan is leading this whole thing, but I don’t see how you can make your own way financially, until you repay what you’ve taken advantage of as an adult. Show a little grace and gratitude to your family.

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Anonymous wrote:Megan's friends and family betrayed her... she has good reason to cut them off. They are entitled to have a life. He is 5th, in line and realistically has no change of being king. Just going to events every day sounds miserable. He should move on with his life. He was the spare, has been replaced with more spares so there really isn't a place for him.

He was happy enjoying the perks of being a spare until he married. Didn’t hear a peep about a normal job and not accepting money from the royal family until Meghan came around. She thought she would be a celebrity marrying Harry and realized she had a place in the family, but not at the top. She will use her title to get everything she can. F tradition.

I think you're forgetting about his tours in Afghanistan, which he didn't have to do but wanted to. I don't think he's ever shown much indication that he loved royal life and he's been pretty open about the effects of his mother's death on him, specifically being made to walk behind her coffin. And the stakes are much higher now with a family.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are Americans so taken with this? I would like to hear from some British citizens about what it means for England. It does seem like a balsy move.

I'm British, hi! I don't speak for all of us though. Personally, FWIW, I think:

1. It's fair enough that they would want to leave, and in fact many people have been telling them to do just that for ages.
2. I think it was really inappropriate to post their message without having discussed it properly with the Queen and Prince Charles. They essentially work for a (family) firm and just like in any job, it is inappropriate to post something public about your plans to leave before discussing it with your boss.
3. I think their announcement begs many more questions than it answers - what will it mean to be financially independent? How will they be able to carry out royal duties if they also earn money from other sources without compromising the need for royalty not to benefit personally (i.e. I think it would be problematic for them to be "influencers" and do adverts, and then also continue their patronages of certain charities).
4. I generally quite like them, but I think they come across as very whiny and entitled in this whole thing.

I would check out this mumsnet thread (the UK equivalent of DCUM) if you want to see what other Brits are thinking:

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3790218-harry-stepping-down-as-a-royal-family-member?pg=1

Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this link. It is terrific.

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Anonymous wrote:Megan's friends and family betrayed her... she has good reason to cut them off. They are entitled to have a life. He is 5th, in line and realistically has no change of being king. Just going to events every day sounds miserable. He should move on with his life. He was the spare, has been replaced with more spares so there really isn't a place for him.

ALL of them? They ALL betrayed her? How?

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Random question: when Charles becomes king does Kate get upgraded to Princess of Wales?

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Anonymous wrote:Random question: when Charles becomes king does Kate get upgraded to Princess of Wales?

Yes

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Anonymous wrote:Megan's friends and family betrayed her... she has good reason to cut them off. They are entitled to have a life. He is 5th, in line and realistically has no change of being king. Just going to events every day sounds miserable. He should move on with his life. He was the spare, has been replaced with more spares so there really isn't a place for him.

He was happy enjoying the perks of being a spare until he married. Didn’t hear a peep about a normal job and not accepting money from the royal family until Meghan came around. She thought she would be a celebrity marrying Harry and realized she had a place in the family, but not at the top. She will use her title to get everything she can. F tradition.

A man this weak SHOULD BE married to a strong woman, no? How else would poor widdle Harry make it through life, not being capable of making his own decisions?

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Anonymous wrote:Megan's friends and family betrayed her... she has good reason to cut them off. They are entitled to have a life. He is 5th, in line and realistically has no change of being king. Just going to events every day sounds miserable. He should move on with his life. He was the spare, has been replaced with more spares so there really isn't a place for him.

He was happy enjoying the perks of being a spare until he married. Didn’t hear a peep about a normal job and not accepting money from the royal family until Meghan came around. She thought she would be a celebrity marrying Harry and realized she had a place in the family, but not at the top. She will use her title to get everything she can. F tradition.

I think you're forgetting about his tours in Afghanistan, which he didn't have to do but wanted to. I don't think he's ever shown much indication that he loved royal life and he's been pretty open about the effects of his mother's death on him, specifically being made to walk behind her coffin. And the stakes are much higher now with a family.

All the more reason to be respectful to his family. The ones who supported him after his mom’s death.

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Megan definitely seems like a Queen Bee. So if she’s not top of the hive, she’s going to fly off and create a new hive.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand why the British put up with funding that family of creepy grifters anyhow. At least these two can make their own money now.

I also don’t understand Why people sucking up to the queen here in the US. The whole family are blood suckers now, and used to be ruthless blood thirsty tyrants.

That is so true, the heavy hand of history

What I do not understand is why this is even a surprise.
Harry and William are 40 year old grown men. Let them live their lives. You only live once anyway. William is going to be king, media needs to focus on him and his kids.
Harry's role is going to diminish anyway, like that of Charles siblings

They snubbed the Queen. The Sussex Royal new website has obviously been in the works secretly for the past few months waiting for launch. The fact that they blindsided the Queen, Prince Charles and their loyal aides is what is really pissing off the Brits and royal watchers around the globe.

Actually its not. People aren't stupid. The Royal Family and courtiers have been lying and leaking about Meghan from Day One.

Here's British reporter Kier Simmons on the Today Show this morning saying the same thing. The BRF shot themselves in the foot with this one.

https://twitter.com/TODAYshow/status/1215269598196633601

4:45 onwards.

Think about this Harry is the second most popular member of the Royal Family and inside his circles there have been complaints that royal courtiers really have been briefing against them. This announcement came after a leak to tabloid newspaper. They have been very unhappy, I think there has been some jealous Savannah for the fame they had after the wonderful wedding... I DON'T THINK THE ROYAL FAMILY REALIZES HOW DAMAGING THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE"

Is this a strategy by the second crisis PR team they have hired? Veiled threats?