Anyone get telework approved at SEC?

[Anonymous]

I’m so angry and miserable about the whole thing. I just hope the loss of productivity from all this is felt by PA (who is so far is oblivious and likely could care less about the pain this has inflicted on staff) and the other R commissioners (both of whom don’t have children and have no f’ing clue what this is doing to people).

Having to listen to any of them speak on anything is like nails on a chalkboard to me — and I’m a Republican!

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting that CF, which had the most liberal TW policy in which people were trusted to work remotely for decades, is the only division that has implemented a clear rule that outlines the high bar for telework. Meanwhile other people get weeks off for child care issues (yes, true story!) Glad I'm no longer in CF.

I agree it is odd that we went from having the most liberal to the most restrictive TW policy. You're sort of right on EST for childcare. While no one in CF was able to get it for childcare some people in other divisions were able to get it if their SOs were willing to advocate for it. Unfortunately in CF the SOs were not willing to fight for anyone to get it.

Lost a lot of respect for our acting CF director.

Why? Bc she’s enforcing the FO’s policies? Take it up with the FO. It’s not her fault or problem.

The FO VOLUNTARILY cancelled all TW — nobody made them do it. The EO certainly didn’t.

FWIW she unilaterally came up with the ultra strict ad hoc policy. That was all her and she owns that. Even the managers are angry with her for that.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so angry and miserable about the whole thing. I just hope the loss of productivity from all this is felt by PA (who is so far is oblivious and likely could care less about the pain this has inflicted on staff) and the other R commissioners (both of whom don’t have children and have no f’ing clue what this is doing to people).

Having to listen to any of them speak on anything is like nails on a chalkboard to me — and I’m a Republican!

That explains a lot about the haphazard and quick RTO. And so ironic that HP was dubbed “crypto mom.”

But they really really really really appreciate and value the staff. So we’ve got that going for us.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so angry and miserable about the whole thing. I just hope the loss of productivity from all this is felt by PA (who is so far is oblivious and likely could care less about the pain this has inflicted on staff) and the other R commissioners (both of whom don’t have children and have no f’ing clue what this is doing to people).

Having to listen to any of them speak on anything is like nails on a chalkboard to me — and I’m a Republican!

The loss of productivity may be difficult for them to recognize.

What will be a bit easier is years from now after the hiring freeze lifts, they will struggle to hire strong candidates with the experience necessary. FT in-office is one thing when you work for JP Morgan but another for a lower paying job.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so angry and miserable about the whole thing. I just hope the loss of productivity from all this is felt by PA (who is so far is oblivious and likely could care less about the pain this has inflicted on staff) and the other R commissioners (both of whom don’t have children and have no f’ing clue what this is doing to people).

Having to listen to any of them speak on anything is like nails on a chalkboard to me — and I’m a Republican!

That explains a lot about the haphazard and quick RTO. And so ironic that HP was dubbed “crypto mom.”

But they really really really really appreciate and value the staff. So we’ve got that going for us.

I’d love to show one of them what my personal calendar looks like with three kids. We have already cut back on certain things — stopped music lessons. Going to try online over the summer. One kid is gonna have to choose a travel team with practices closer to home. Another has 1-2 medical appointments per month for a chronic condition. I could go on.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so angry and miserable about the whole thing. I just hope the loss of productivity from all this is felt by PA (who is so far is oblivious and likely could care less about the pain this has inflicted on staff) and the other R commissioners (both of whom don’t have children and have no f’ing clue what this is doing to people).

Having to listen to any of them speak on anything is like nails on a chalkboard to me — and I’m a Republican!

That explains a lot about the haphazard and quick RTO. And so ironic that HP was dubbed “crypto mom.”

But they really really really really appreciate and value the staff. So we’ve got that going for us.

I’d love to show one of them what my personal calendar looks like with three kids. We have already cut back on certain things — stopped music lessons. Going to try online over the summer. One kid is gonna have to choose a travel team with practices closer to home. Another has 1-2 medical appointments per month for a chronic condition. I could go on.

They couldn’t care less. Their response would probably be that you should stay home.

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting that CF, which had the most liberal TW policy in which people were trusted to work remotely for decades, is the only division that has implemented a clear rule that outlines the high bar for telework. Meanwhile other people get weeks off for child care issues (yes, true story!) Glad I'm no longer in CF.

I agree it is odd that we went from having the most liberal to the most restrictive TW policy. You're sort of right on EST for childcare. While no one in CF was able to get it for childcare some people in other divisions were able to get it if their SOs were willing to advocate for it. Unfortunately in CF the SOs were not willing to fight for anyone to get it.

Lost a lot of respect for our acting CF director.

Why? Bc she’s enforcing the FO’s policies? Take it up with the FO. It’s not her fault or problem.

The FO VOLUNTARILY cancelled all TW — nobody made them do it. The EO certainly didn’t.

FWIW she unilaterally came up with the ultra strict ad hoc policy. That was all her and she owns that. Even the managers are angry with her for that.

That’s why I lost respect for her. Definitely CYA to save herself.

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting that CF, which had the most liberal TW policy in which people were trusted to work remotely for decades, is the only division that has implemented a clear rule that outlines the high bar for telework. Meanwhile other people get weeks off for child care issues (yes, true story!) Glad I'm no longer in CF.

I agree it is odd that we went from having the most liberal to the most restrictive TW policy. You're sort of right on EST for childcare. While no one in CF was able to get it for childcare some people in other divisions were able to get it if their SOs were willing to advocate for it. Unfortunately in CF the SOs were not willing to fight for anyone to get it.

Lost a lot of respect for our acting CF director.

Why? Bc she’s enforcing the FO’s policies? Take it up with the FO. It’s not her fault or problem.

The FO VOLUNTARILY cancelled all TW — nobody made them do it. The EO certainly didn’t.

FWIW she unilaterally came up with the ultra strict ad hoc policy. That was all her and she owns that. Even the managers are angry with her for that.

That’s why I lost respect for her. Definitely CYA to save herself.

Absurd to blame her. It’s not her policy. Why should she stick her neck out in this environment? It’d be so easy for the FO just to go back to the pre 2019 posture. But they opted not to. Not her fault at all.

[Anonymous]

Wait until the next FEVs survey. Good luck spinning that.

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting that CF, which had the most liberal TW policy in which people were trusted to work remotely for decades, is the only division that has implemented a clear rule that outlines the high bar for telework. Meanwhile other people get weeks off for child care issues (yes, true story!) Glad I'm no longer in CF.

I agree it is odd that we went from having the most liberal to the most restrictive TW policy. You're sort of right on EST for childcare. While no one in CF was able to get it for childcare some people in other divisions were able to get it if their SOs were willing to advocate for it. Unfortunately in CF the SOs were not willing to fight for anyone to get it.

Lost a lot of respect for our acting CF director.

Why? Bc she’s enforcing the FO’s policies? Take it up with the FO. It’s not her fault or problem.

The FO VOLUNTARILY cancelled all TW — nobody made them do it. The EO certainly didn’t.

FWIW she unilaterally came up with the ultra strict ad hoc policy. That was all her and she owns that. Even the managers are angry with her for that.

That’s why I lost respect for her. Definitely CYA to save herself.

Absurd to blame her. It’s not her policy. Why should she stick her neck out in this environment? It’d be so easy for the FO just to go back to the pre 2019 posture. But they opted not to. Not her fault at all.

She wouldn't be sticking her neck out if she did what every other division did. And it is her fault for making our policy stricter than the other divisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I believe management could still have ad hoc but only for weather-related purposes (e.g., snow day) and emergencies. Otherwise, they could restrict all other telework/ad hoc. Some office at SEC are liberal and allow ad hoc for most reasons now. That can be frustrating if you're stuck in an office that is strict about ad hoc. Some people get to telework 2-3 days a week with the right manager.

No one (without a reasonable accommodation at least) is getting to TW 2-3 days per week, even in liberal offices.

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting that CF, which had the most liberal TW policy in which people were trusted to work remotely for decades, is the only division that has implemented a clear rule that outlines the high bar for telework. Meanwhile other people get weeks off for child care issues (yes, true story!) Glad I'm no longer in CF.

I agree it is odd that we went from having the most liberal to the most restrictive TW policy. You're sort of right on EST for childcare. While no one in CF was able to get it for childcare some people in other divisions were able to get it if their SOs were willing to advocate for it. Unfortunately in CF the SOs were not willing to fight for anyone to get it.

Lost a lot of respect for our acting CF director.

Why? Bc she’s enforcing the FO’s policies? Take it up with the FO. It’s not her fault or problem.

The FO VOLUNTARILY cancelled all TW — nobody made them do it. The EO certainly didn’t.

FWIW she unilaterally came up with the ultra strict ad hoc policy. That was all her and she owns that. Even the managers are angry with her for that.

That’s why I lost respect for her. Definitely CYA to save herself.

Absurd to blame her. It’s not her policy. Why should she stick her neck out in this environment? It’d be so easy for the FO just to go back to the pre 2019 posture. But they opted not to. Not her fault at all.

She wouldn't be sticking her neck out if she did what every other division did. And it is her fault for making our policy stricter than the other divisions.

Really? Ok then — write down what the other offices are “doing,” and make that the Policy. This isn’t hard. Short of that, is she just supposed to trust you about what every other office is “doing”?

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Anonymous wrote:I believe management could still have ad hoc but only for weather-related purposes (e.g., snow day) and emergencies. Otherwise, they could restrict all other telework/ad hoc. Some office at SEC are liberal and allow ad hoc for most reasons now. That can be frustrating if you're stuck in an office that is strict about ad hoc. Some people get to telework 2-3 days a week with the right manager.

No one (without a reasonable accommodation at least) is getting to TW 2-3 days per week, even in liberal offices.

FALSE. I count at least 3 other exceptions besides RA.

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting that CF, which had the most liberal TW policy in which people were trusted to work remotely for decades, is the only division that has implemented a clear rule that outlines the high bar for telework. Meanwhile other people get weeks off for child care issues (yes, true story!) Glad I'm no longer in CF.

I agree it is odd that we went from having the most liberal to the most restrictive TW policy. You're sort of right on EST for childcare. While no one in CF was able to get it for childcare some people in other divisions were able to get it if their SOs were willing to advocate for it. Unfortunately in CF the SOs were not willing to fight for anyone to get it.

Lost a lot of respect for our acting CF director.

Why? Bc she’s enforcing the FO’s policies? Take it up with the FO. It’s not her fault or problem.

The FO VOLUNTARILY cancelled all TW — nobody made them do it. The EO certainly didn’t.

FWIW she unilaterally came up with the ultra strict ad hoc policy. That was all her and she owns that. Even the managers are angry with her for that.

That’s why I lost respect for her. Definitely CYA to save herself.

Absurd to blame her. It’s not her policy. Why should she stick her neck out in this environment? It’d be so easy for the FO just to go back to the pre 2019 posture. But they opted not to. Not her fault at all.

She wouldn't be sticking her neck out if she did what every other division did. And it is her fault for making our policy stricter than the other divisions.

Really? Ok then — write down what the other offices are “doing,” and make that the Policy. This isn’t hard. Short of that, is she just supposed to trust you about what every other office is “doing”?

It's in the RTO FAQs.

Also, she doesn't need to trust me, she can talk to the acting directors in the other offices and implement a consistent policy.

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting that CF, which had the most liberal TW policy in which people were trusted to work remotely for decades, is the only division that has implemented a clear rule that outlines the high bar for telework. Meanwhile other people get weeks off for child care issues (yes, true story!) Glad I'm no longer in CF.

I agree it is odd that we went from having the most liberal to the most restrictive TW policy. You're sort of right on EST for childcare. While no one in CF was able to get it for childcare some people in other divisions were able to get it if their SOs were willing to advocate for it. Unfortunately in CF the SOs were not willing to fight for anyone to get it.

Lost a lot of respect for our acting CF director.

Why? Bc she’s enforcing the FO’s policies? Take it up with the FO. It’s not her fault or problem.

The FO VOLUNTARILY cancelled all TW — nobody made them do it. The EO certainly didn’t.

FWIW she unilaterally came up with the ultra strict ad hoc policy. That was all her and she owns that. Even the managers are angry with her for that.

That’s why I lost respect for her. Definitely CYA to save herself.

Absurd to blame her. It’s not her policy. Why should she stick her neck out in this environment? It’d be so easy for the FO just to go back to the pre 2019 posture. But they opted not to. Not her fault at all.

She wouldn't be sticking her neck out if she did what every other division did. And it is her fault for making our policy stricter than the other divisions.

Really? Ok then — write down what the other offices are “doing,” and make that the Policy. This isn’t hard. Short of that, is she just supposed to trust you about what every other office is “doing”?

It's in the RTO FAQs.

Also, she doesn't need to trust me, she can talk to the acting directors in the other offices and implement a consistent policy.

So you’re saying that she’s violating the current written policy? You should bring that up then.

It’s not up to her to implement a clear, consistent written policy or go coordinate with anyone in doing so. That’s the FO’s job.