Girls' Academy has also been approved to become a U.S. Soccer member!

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What if GA is giving their top clubs a 2nd team, because they plan on moving first teams to ECNL?

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Anonymous wrote:Hey Detective Gruff did you notice that NEFC was just given a 2nd GA team?


It’s McGruff cause he takes a bite out of crime
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Anonymous wrote:What I find funny is that people defend college soccer as some kind of incubator for talent between youth and playing pro. Yet foreign youth academy washouts are highly coveted players and recruited by college coaches.

How is college developing players to a higher level when foreign Academy washouts are highly prized? College coaches are literally amazed by the players foreign acadamies think aren't good enough.

Do you see the disconnect?


My god you are obtuse.

For the 30,000 time, nobody is arguing against academies, NWSL or otherwise. Nobody is ride or die for ECNL or college soccer.

But you must accept that a true European Academy system will take years to be implemented here. There will be steps to that end but some will be incremental and others will be bigger. But in the scheme of things patience is key.

But, unlike Europe, we do have a very well developed and culturally engrained college athletics system. Europe doesn't even really do HS sports to the extent that we do here. The college sporting experience is not going away anytime soon, NIL or not. That is the trick for NWSL and the USNT have to contend with.

The other problem with your talking points is the contradictory nature of them. When it is mentioned earlier that we should only have 3 or 4 elite league options in Northern Virginia you argue that it cuts out too many kids. But then you also want to dismantle college soccer on the women's side because we need a professional academy system. Even though there are over 300 D1 women's programs compared to 14 NWSL teams to play for. Of the 200 or so kids who migrate to the college ranks each year less than 20 have the potential to play professionally.

Kids still want to play at the highest level they can and those who know they will never play professionally are not interested in pursuing a professional track but will still want to play in college. Any NWSL academy system needs to accept college soccer and college sports. You clearly have a 12 year old girl and believe she is going to go pro so I get your passion but you're letting you passion turn into delusion. You can only place your kid in the best spot in the system that exists now. No amount of predicting and hoping is going to change what is now. IF things change then you are free to do what is best for your kid. That said, I would not waste any time trying to anticipate who is getting what, when and how good it will be based on little more than hopes and dreams.

We all hope what you are dreaming of happens but we live in the now.


And missing the point that 90% plus of girl players are not looking to go pro but to go to college and play.

You know this how?

Please tell me more about how everywhere else (both sexes) dream of playing professionally over everything else.

But somehow in America girls dream about playing in college.


On the men's side they dream of pro -- everywhere. On the women's side most don't dream of pro anywhwere. Any country; and place. Why would anyone except for a select few with Nike and Gatorade contracts before they even go pro want to play pro? There is no money in it. There is no future in it. It is not the men's side. How do people know girls are not going to jump over themselves going down a pro path? Because their parents are not going to let them.
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Anonymous wrote:What I find funny is that people defend college soccer as some kind of incubator for talent between youth and playing pro. Yet foreign youth academy washouts are highly coveted players and recruited by college coaches.

How is college developing players to a higher level when foreign Academy washouts are highly prized? College coaches are literally amazed by the players foreign acadamies think aren't good enough.

Do you see the disconnect?


My god you are obtuse.

For the 30,000 time, nobody is arguing against academies, NWSL or otherwise. Nobody is ride or die for ECNL or college soccer.

But you must accept that a true European Academy system will take years to be implemented here. There will be steps to that end but some will be incremental and others will be bigger. But in the scheme of things patience is key.

But, unlike Europe, we do have a very well developed and culturally engrained college athletics system. Europe doesn't even really do HS sports to the extent that we do here. The college sporting experience is not going away anytime soon, NIL or not. That is the trick for NWSL and the USNT have to contend with.

The other problem with your talking points is the contradictory nature of them. When it is mentioned earlier that we should only have 3 or 4 elite league options in Northern Virginia you argue that it cuts out too many kids. But then you also want to dismantle college soccer on the women's side because we need a professional academy system. Even though there are over 300 D1 women's programs compared to 14 NWSL teams to play for. Of the 200 or so kids who migrate to the college ranks each year less than 20 have the potential to play professionally.

Kids still want to play at the highest level they can and those who know they will never play professionally are not interested in pursuing a professional track but will still want to play in college. Any NWSL academy system needs to accept college soccer and college sports. You clearly have a 12 year old girl and believe she is going to go pro so I get your passion but you're letting you passion turn into delusion. You can only place your kid in the best spot in the system that exists now. No amount of predicting and hoping is going to change what is now. IF things change then you are free to do what is best for your kid. That said, I would not waste any time trying to anticipate who is getting what, when and how good it will be based on little more than hopes and dreams.

We all hope what you are dreaming of happens but we live in the now.


And missing the point that 90% plus of girl players are not looking to go pro but to go to college and play.

You know this how?

Please tell me more about how everywhere else (both sexes) dream of playing professionally over everything else.

But somehow in America girls dream about playing in college.


On the men's side they dream of pro -- everywhere. On the women's side most don't dream of pro anywhwere. Any country; and place. Why would anyone except for a select few with Nike and Gatorade contracts before they even go pro want to play pro? There is no money in it. There is no future in it. It is not the men's side. How do people know girls are not going to jump over themselves going down a pro path? Because their parents are not going to let them.

Such a stupid thing to say.

Also complely wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I find funny is that people defend college soccer as some kind of incubator for talent between youth and playing pro. Yet foreign youth academy washouts are highly coveted players and recruited by college coaches.

How is college developing players to a higher level when foreign Academy washouts are highly prized? College coaches are literally amazed by the players foreign acadamies think aren't good enough.

Do you see the disconnect?


My god you are obtuse.

For the 30,000 time, nobody is arguing against academies, NWSL or otherwise. Nobody is ride or die for ECNL or college soccer.

But you must accept that a true European Academy system will take years to be implemented here. There will be steps to that end but some will be incremental and others will be bigger. But in the scheme of things patience is key.

But, unlike Europe, we do have a very well developed and culturally engrained college athletics system. Europe doesn't even really do HS sports to the extent that we do here. The college sporting experience is not going away anytime soon, NIL or not. That is the trick for NWSL and the USNT have to contend with.

The other problem with your talking points is the contradictory nature of them. When it is mentioned earlier that we should only have 3 or 4 elite league options in Northern Virginia you argue that it cuts out too many kids. But then you also want to dismantle college soccer on the women's side because we need a professional academy system. Even though there are over 300 D1 women's programs compared to 14 NWSL teams to play for. Of the 200 or so kids who migrate to the college ranks each year less than 20 have the potential to play professionally.

Kids still want to play at the highest level they can and those who know they will never play professionally are not interested in pursuing a professional track but will still want to play in college. Any NWSL academy system needs to accept college soccer and college sports. You clearly have a 12 year old girl and believe she is going to go pro so I get your passion but you're letting you passion turn into delusion. You can only place your kid in the best spot in the system that exists now. No amount of predicting and hoping is going to change what is now. IF things change then you are free to do what is best for your kid. That said, I would not waste any time trying to anticipate who is getting what, when and how good it will be based on little more than hopes and dreams.

We all hope what you are dreaming of happens but we live in the now.


And missing the point that 90% plus of girl players are not looking to go pro but to go to college and play.

You know this how?

Please tell me more about how everywhere else (both sexes) dream of playing professionally over everything else.

But somehow in America girls dream about playing in college.


On the men's side they dream of pro -- everywhere. On the women's side most don't dream of pro anywhwere. Any country; and place. Why would anyone except for a select few with Nike and Gatorade contracts before they even go pro want to play pro? There is no money in it. There is no future in it. It is not the men's side. How do people know girls are not going to jump over themselves going down a pro path? Because their parents are not going to let them.

Such a stupid thing to say.

Also complely wrong.


How is it wrong?
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Anonymous wrote:What I find funny is that people defend college soccer as some kind of incubator for talent between youth and playing pro. Yet foreign youth academy washouts are highly coveted players and recruited by college coaches.

How is college developing players to a higher level when foreign Academy washouts are highly prized? College coaches are literally amazed by the players foreign acadamies think aren't good enough.

Do you see the disconnect?


My god you are obtuse.

For the 30,000 time, nobody is arguing against academies, NWSL or otherwise. Nobody is ride or die for ECNL or college soccer.

But you must accept that a true European Academy system will take years to be implemented here. There will be steps to that end but some will be incremental and others will be bigger. But in the scheme of things patience is key.

But, unlike Europe, we do have a very well developed and culturally engrained college athletics system. Europe doesn't even really do HS sports to the extent that we do here. The college sporting experience is not going away anytime soon, NIL or not. That is the trick for NWSL and the USNT have to contend with.

The other problem with your talking points is the contradictory nature of them. When it is mentioned earlier that we should only have 3 or 4 elite league options in Northern Virginia you argue that it cuts out too many kids. But then you also want to dismantle college soccer on the women's side because we need a professional academy system. Even though there are over 300 D1 women's programs compared to 14 NWSL teams to play for. Of the 200 or so kids who migrate to the college ranks each year less than 20 have the potential to play professionally.

Kids still want to play at the highest level they can and those who know they will never play professionally are not interested in pursuing a professional track but will still want to play in college. Any NWSL academy system needs to accept college soccer and college sports. You clearly have a 12 year old girl and believe she is going to go pro so I get your passion but you're letting you passion turn into delusion. You can only place your kid in the best spot in the system that exists now. No amount of predicting and hoping is going to change what is now. IF things change then you are free to do what is best for your kid. That said, I would not waste any time trying to anticipate who is getting what, when and how good it will be based on little more than hopes and dreams.

We all hope what you are dreaming of happens but we live in the now.


And missing the point that 90% plus of girl players are not looking to go pro but to go to college and play.

You know this how?

Please tell me more about how everywhere else (both sexes) dream of playing professionally over everything else.

But somehow in America girls dream about playing in college.


On the men's side they dream of pro -- everywhere. On the women's side most don't dream of pro anywhwere. Any country; and place. Why would anyone except for a select few with Nike and Gatorade contracts before they even go pro want to play pro? There is no money in it. There is no future in it. It is not the men's side. How do people know girls are not going to jump over themselves going down a pro path? Because their parents are not going to let them.

Such a stupid thing to say.

Also complely wrong.


How is it wrong?

Because you're an adult not a young girl.

You have no idea what young girls dream about when it comes to soccer.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I find funny is that people defend college soccer as some kind of incubator for talent between youth and playing pro. Yet foreign youth academy washouts are highly coveted players and recruited by college coaches.

How is college developing players to a higher level when foreign Academy washouts are highly prized? College coaches are literally amazed by the players foreign acadamies think aren't good enough.

Do you see the disconnect?


My god you are obtuse.

For the 30,000 time, nobody is arguing against academies, NWSL or otherwise. Nobody is ride or die for ECNL or college soccer.

But you must accept that a true European Academy system will take years to be implemented here. There will be steps to that end but some will be incremental and others will be bigger. But in the scheme of things patience is key.

But, unlike Europe, we do have a very well developed and culturally engrained college athletics system. Europe doesn't even really do HS sports to the extent that we do here. The college sporting experience is not going away anytime soon, NIL or not. That is the trick for NWSL and the USNT have to contend with.

The other problem with your talking points is the contradictory nature of them. When it is mentioned earlier that we should only have 3 or 4 elite league options in Northern Virginia you argue that it cuts out too many kids. But then you also want to dismantle college soccer on the women's side because we need a professional academy system. Even though there are over 300 D1 women's programs compared to 14 NWSL teams to play for. Of the 200 or so kids who migrate to the college ranks each year less than 20 have the potential to play professionally.

Kids still want to play at the highest level they can and those who know they will never play professionally are not interested in pursuing a professional track but will still want to play in college. Any NWSL academy system needs to accept college soccer and college sports. You clearly have a 12 year old girl and believe she is going to go pro so I get your passion but you're letting you passion turn into delusion. You can only place your kid in the best spot in the system that exists now. No amount of predicting and hoping is going to change what is now. IF things change then you are free to do what is best for your kid. That said, I would not waste any time trying to anticipate who is getting what, when and how good it will be based on little more than hopes and dreams.

We all hope what you are dreaming of happens but we live in the now.


And missing the point that 90% plus of girl players are not looking to go pro but to go to college and play.

You know this how?

Please tell me more about how everywhere else (both sexes) dream of playing professionally over everything else.

But somehow in America girls dream about playing in college.


On the men's side they dream of pro -- everywhere. On the women's side most don't dream of pro anywhwere. Any country; and place. Why would anyone except for a select few with Nike and Gatorade contracts before they even go pro want to play pro? There is no money in it. There is no future in it. It is not the men's side. How do people know girls are not going to jump over themselves going down a pro path? Because their parents are not going to let them.

Such a stupid thing to say.

Also complely wrong.


How is it wrong?

Because you're an adult not a young girl.

You have no idea what young girls dream about when it comes to soccer.


And you do?

You seem to believe young girls are dreaming about playing pro. What makes you right?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What I find funny is that people defend college soccer as some kind of incubator for talent between youth and playing pro. Yet foreign youth academy washouts are highly coveted players and recruited by college coaches.

How is college developing players to a higher level when foreign Academy washouts are highly prized? College coaches are literally amazed by the players foreign acadamies think aren't good enough.

Do you see the disconnect?


My god you are obtuse.

For the 30,000 time, nobody is arguing against academies, NWSL or otherwise. Nobody is ride or die for ECNL or college soccer.

But you must accept that a true European Academy system will take years to be implemented here. There will be steps to that end but some will be incremental and others will be bigger. But in the scheme of things patience is key.

But, unlike Europe, we do have a very well developed and culturally engrained college athletics system. Europe doesn't even really do HS sports to the extent that we do here. The college sporting experience is not going away anytime soon, NIL or not. That is the trick for NWSL and the USNT have to contend with.

The other problem with your talking points is the contradictory nature of them. When it is mentioned earlier that we should only have 3 or 4 elite league options in Northern Virginia you argue that it cuts out too many kids. But then you also want to dismantle college soccer on the women's side because we need a professional academy system. Even though there are over 300 D1 women's programs compared to 14 NWSL teams to play for. Of the 200 or so kids who migrate to the college ranks each year less than 20 have the potential to play professionally.

Kids still want to play at the highest level they can and those who know they will never play professionally are not interested in pursuing a professional track but will still want to play in college. Any NWSL academy system needs to accept college soccer and college sports. You clearly have a 12 year old girl and believe she is going to go pro so I get your passion but you're letting you passion turn into delusion. You can only place your kid in the best spot in the system that exists now. No amount of predicting and hoping is going to change what is now. IF things change then you are free to do what is best for your kid. That said, I would not waste any time trying to anticipate who is getting what, when and how good it will be based on little more than hopes and dreams.

We all hope what you are dreaming of happens but we live in the now.


And missing the point that 90% plus of girl players are not looking to go pro but to go to college and play.

You know this how?

Please tell me more about how everywhere else (both sexes) dream of playing professionally over everything else.

But somehow in America girls dream about playing in college.


On the men's side they dream of pro -- everywhere. On the women's side most don't dream of pro anywhwere. Any country; and place. Why would anyone except for a select few with Nike and Gatorade contracts before they even go pro want to play pro? There is no money in it. There is no future in it. It is not the men's side. How do people know girls are not going to jump over themselves going down a pro path? Because their parents are not going to let them.

Such a stupid thing to say.

Also complely wrong.


How is it wrong?

Because you're an adult not a young girl.

You have no idea what young girls dream about when it comes to soccer.


And you do?

You seem to believe young girls are dreaming about playing pro. What makes you right?

I believe girls can dream whatever they want.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I find funny is that people defend college soccer as some kind of incubator for talent between youth and playing pro. Yet foreign youth academy washouts are highly coveted players and recruited by college coaches.

How is college developing players to a higher level when foreign Academy washouts are highly prized? College coaches are literally amazed by the players foreign acadamies think aren't good enough.

Do you see the disconnect?


My god you are obtuse.

For the 30,000 time, nobody is arguing against academies, NWSL or otherwise. Nobody is ride or die for ECNL or college soccer.

But you must accept that a true European Academy system will take years to be implemented here. There will be steps to that end but some will be incremental and others will be bigger. But in the scheme of things patience is key.

But, unlike Europe, we do have a very well developed and culturally engrained college athletics system. Europe doesn't even really do HS sports to the extent that we do here. The college sporting experience is not going away anytime soon, NIL or not. That is the trick for NWSL and the USNT have to contend with.

The other problem with your talking points is the contradictory nature of them. When it is mentioned earlier that we should only have 3 or 4 elite league options in Northern Virginia you argue that it cuts out too many kids. But then you also want to dismantle college soccer on the women's side because we need a professional academy system. Even though there are over 300 D1 women's programs compared to 14 NWSL teams to play for. Of the 200 or so kids who migrate to the college ranks each year less than 20 have the potential to play professionally.

Kids still want to play at the highest level they can and those who know they will never play professionally are not interested in pursuing a professional track but will still want to play in college. Any NWSL academy system needs to accept college soccer and college sports. You clearly have a 12 year old girl and believe she is going to go pro so I get your passion but you're letting you passion turn into delusion. You can only place your kid in the best spot in the system that exists now. No amount of predicting and hoping is going to change what is now. IF things change then you are free to do what is best for your kid. That said, I would not waste any time trying to anticipate who is getting what, when and how good it will be based on little more than hopes and dreams.

We all hope what you are dreaming of happens but we live in the now.


And missing the point that 90% plus of girl players are not looking to go pro but to go to college and play.

You know this how?

Please tell me more about how everywhere else (both sexes) dream of playing professionally over everything else.

But somehow in America girls dream about playing in college.


On the men's side they dream of pro -- everywhere. On the women's side most don't dream of pro anywhwere. Any country; and place. Why would anyone except for a select few with Nike and Gatorade contracts before they even go pro want to play pro? There is no money in it. There is no future in it. It is not the men's side. How do people know girls are not going to jump over themselves going down a pro path? Because their parents are not going to let them.

Such a stupid thing to say.

Also complely wrong.


How is it wrong?

Because you're an adult not a young girl.

You have no idea what young girls dream about when it comes to soccer.


And you do?

You seem to believe young girls are dreaming about playing pro. What makes you right?

I believe girls can dream whatever they want.


I do too, but your believing it doesn't make it true.

Please tell us all how you KNOW that girls all dream about playing pro.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What I find funny is that people defend college soccer as some kind of incubator for talent between youth and playing pro. Yet foreign youth academy washouts are highly coveted players and recruited by college coaches.

How is college developing players to a higher level when foreign Academy washouts are highly prized? College coaches are literally amazed by the players foreign acadamies think aren't good enough.

Do you see the disconnect?


My god you are obtuse.

For the 30,000 time, nobody is arguing against academies, NWSL or otherwise. Nobody is ride or die for ECNL or college soccer.

But you must accept that a true European Academy system will take years to be implemented here. There will be steps to that end but some will be incremental and others will be bigger. But in the scheme of things patience is key.

But, unlike Europe, we do have a very well developed and culturally engrained college athletics system. Europe doesn't even really do HS sports to the extent that we do here. The college sporting experience is not going away anytime soon, NIL or not. That is the trick for NWSL and the USNT have to contend with.

The other problem with your talking points is the contradictory nature of them. When it is mentioned earlier that we should only have 3 or 4 elite league options in Northern Virginia you argue that it cuts out too many kids. But then you also want to dismantle college soccer on the women's side because we need a professional academy system. Even though there are over 300 D1 women's programs compared to 14 NWSL teams to play for. Of the 200 or so kids who migrate to the college ranks each year less than 20 have the potential to play professionally.

Kids still want to play at the highest level they can and those who know they will never play professionally are not interested in pursuing a professional track but will still want to play in college. Any NWSL academy system needs to accept college soccer and college sports. You clearly have a 12 year old girl and believe she is going to go pro so I get your passion but you're letting you passion turn into delusion. You can only place your kid in the best spot in the system that exists now. No amount of predicting and hoping is going to change what is now. IF things change then you are free to do what is best for your kid. That said, I would not waste any time trying to anticipate who is getting what, when and how good it will be based on little more than hopes and dreams.

We all hope what you are dreaming of happens but we live in the now.


And missing the point that 90% plus of girl players are not looking to go pro but to go to college and play.

You know this how?

Please tell me more about how everywhere else (both sexes) dream of playing professionally over everything else.

But somehow in America girls dream about playing in college.


On the men's side they dream of pro -- everywhere. On the women's side most don't dream of pro anywhwere. Any country; and place. Why would anyone except for a select few with Nike and Gatorade contracts before they even go pro want to play pro? There is no money in it. There is no future in it. It is not the men's side. How do people know girls are not going to jump over themselves going down a pro path? Because their parents are not going to let them.

Such a stupid thing to say.

Also complely wrong.


How is it wrong?

Because you're an adult not a young girl.

You have no idea what young girls dream about when it comes to soccer.


And you do?

You seem to believe young girls are dreaming about playing pro. What makes you right?

I believe girls can dream whatever they want.


I do too, but your believing it doesn't make it true.

Please tell us all how you KNOW that girls all dream about playing pro.

No sorry that's not what you said.

You said that girls dream about playing in college.

I said girls can dream about whatever they want.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What I find funny is that people defend college soccer as some kind of incubator for talent between youth and playing pro. Yet foreign youth academy washouts are highly coveted players and recruited by college coaches.

How is college developing players to a higher level when foreign Academy washouts are highly prized? College coaches are literally amazed by the players foreign acadamies think aren't good enough.

Do you see the disconnect?


My god you are obtuse.

For the 30,000 time, nobody is arguing against academies, NWSL or otherwise. Nobody is ride or die for ECNL or college soccer.

But you must accept that a true European Academy system will take years to be implemented here. There will be steps to that end but some will be incremental and others will be bigger. But in the scheme of things patience is key.

But, unlike Europe, we do have a very well developed and culturally engrained college athletics system. Europe doesn't even really do HS sports to the extent that we do here. The college sporting experience is not going away anytime soon, NIL or not. That is the trick for NWSL and the USNT have to contend with.

The other problem with your talking points is the contradictory nature of them. When it is mentioned earlier that we should only have 3 or 4 elite league options in Northern Virginia you argue that it cuts out too many kids. But then you also want to dismantle college soccer on the women's side because we need a professional academy system. Even though there are over 300 D1 women's programs compared to 14 NWSL teams to play for. Of the 200 or so kids who migrate to the college ranks each year less than 20 have the potential to play professionally.

Kids still want to play at the highest level they can and those who know they will never play professionally are not interested in pursuing a professional track but will still want to play in college. Any NWSL academy system needs to accept college soccer and college sports. You clearly have a 12 year old girl and believe she is going to go pro so I get your passion but you're letting you passion turn into delusion. You can only place your kid in the best spot in the system that exists now. No amount of predicting and hoping is going to change what is now. IF things change then you are free to do what is best for your kid. That said, I would not waste any time trying to anticipate who is getting what, when and how good it will be based on little more than hopes and dreams.

We all hope what you are dreaming of happens but we live in the now.


And missing the point that 90% plus of girl players are not looking to go pro but to go to college and play.

You know this how?

Please tell me more about how everywhere else (both sexes) dream of playing professionally over everything else.

But somehow in America girls dream about playing in college.


On the men's side they dream of pro -- everywhere. On the women's side most don't dream of pro anywhwere. Any country; and place. Why would anyone except for a select few with Nike and Gatorade contracts before they even go pro want to play pro? There is no money in it. There is no future in it. It is not the men's side. How do people know girls are not going to jump over themselves going down a pro path? Because their parents are not going to let them.

Such a stupid thing to say.

Also complely wrong.


How is it wrong?

Because you're an adult not a young girl.

You have no idea what young girls dream about when it comes to soccer.


And you do?

You seem to believe young girls are dreaming about playing pro. What makes you right?

I believe girls can dream whatever they want.


I do too, but your believing it doesn't make it true.

Please tell us all how you KNOW that girls all dream about playing pro.

No sorry that's not what you said.

You said that girls dream about playing in college.

I said girls can dream about whatever they want.


Nope, there is more than one person here. I never said that.

I want to know why you believe they do dream about playing pro.
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Anonymous wrote:What I find funny is that people defend college soccer as some kind of incubator for talent between youth and playing pro. Yet foreign youth academy washouts are highly coveted players and recruited by college coaches.

How is college developing players to a higher level when foreign Academy washouts are highly prized? College coaches are literally amazed by the players foreign acadamies think aren't good enough.

Do you see the disconnect?


My god you are obtuse.

For the 30,000 time, nobody is arguing against academies, NWSL or otherwise. Nobody is ride or die for ECNL or college soccer.

But you must accept that a true European Academy system will take years to be implemented here. There will be steps to that end but some will be incremental and others will be bigger. But in the scheme of things patience is key.

But, unlike Europe, we do have a very well developed and culturally engrained college athletics system. Europe doesn't even really do HS sports to the extent that we do here. The college sporting experience is not going away anytime soon, NIL or not. That is the trick for NWSL and the USNT have to contend with.

The other problem with your talking points is the contradictory nature of them. When it is mentioned earlier that we should only have 3 or 4 elite league options in Northern Virginia you argue that it cuts out too many kids. But then you also want to dismantle college soccer on the women's side because we need a professional academy system. Even though there are over 300 D1 women's programs compared to 14 NWSL teams to play for. Of the 200 or so kids who migrate to the college ranks each year less than 20 have the potential to play professionally.

Kids still want to play at the highest level they can and those who know they will never play professionally are not interested in pursuing a professional track but will still want to play in college. Any NWSL academy system needs to accept college soccer and college sports. You clearly have a 12 year old girl and believe she is going to go pro so I get your passion but you're letting you passion turn into delusion. You can only place your kid in the best spot in the system that exists now. No amount of predicting and hoping is going to change what is now. IF things change then you are free to do what is best for your kid. That said, I would not waste any time trying to anticipate who is getting what, when and how good it will be based on little more than hopes and dreams.

We all hope what you are dreaming of happens but we live in the now.


And missing the point that 90% plus of girl players are not looking to go pro but to go to college and play.

You know this how?

Please tell me more about how everywhere else (both sexes) dream of playing professionally over everything else.

But somehow in America girls dream about playing in college.


On the men's side they dream of pro -- everywhere. On the women's side most don't dream of pro anywhwere. Any country; and place. Why would anyone except for a select few with Nike and Gatorade contracts before they even go pro want to play pro? There is no money in it. There is no future in it. It is not the men's side. How do people know girls are not going to jump over themselves going down a pro path? Because their parents are not going to let them.

Such a stupid thing to say.

Also complely wrong.


How is it wrong?

Because you're an adult not a young girl.

You have no idea what young girls dream about when it comes to soccer.


And you do?

You seem to believe young girls are dreaming about playing pro. What makes you right?

I believe girls can dream whatever they want.


I do too, but your believing it doesn't make it true.

Please tell us all how you KNOW that girls all dream about playing pro.

No sorry that's not what you said.

You said that girls dream about playing in college.

I said girls can dream about whatever they want.


Nope, there is more than one person here. I never said that.

I want to know why you believe they do dream about playing pro.

Sigh...
Anonymous
New poster and my DD wants to go pro and is often the one dropping news like Springfield’s own LY 16year getting called up by USWNT on me. Who am I as her dad of all people to say your dreams are potentially a mediocre professional endeavor financially. They might not be? They good be? She might stop playing at 25? Who knows but I’m here to encourage and nurture dreams.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:New poster and my DD wants to go pro and is often the one dropping news like Springfield’s own LY 16year getting called up by USWNT on me. Who am I as her dad of all people to say your dreams are potentially a mediocre professional endeavor financially. They might not be? They good be? She might stop playing at 25? Who knows but I’m here to encourage and nurture dreams.


If your kid is getting called up to USNT then the dreams are realistic.

Kids dream, great, be supportive, but dreams are under no obligation to come true.
Anonymous
Just asked my 2010 daughter if she would rather play professional soccer or college soccer.

She said...

"How much do you get paid to play in college?" I said nothing her immediate response was "then play professionally"

Pretty much says it all.
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