Woman charged with felony for having a stillbirth

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So she actually went to the hospital after the miscarriage. She didn't just "go about her day".

Also. The nurse is the one who called the police on her. And then rubbed her back and comforted her while she was being interrogated by the police. That woman can burn in h3ll.


+1

Vile, vile woman.


I'm mad at the nurse too but the nurse is probably also afraid of the new laws and being (made out to be) complicit in some way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“An Ohio prosecutor says it is not within his power to drop a criminal charge against a woman who miscarried in the restroom at her home, regardless of the pressure being brought to bear by the national attention on her case.

Trumbull County Prosecutor Dennis Watkins said in a release issued late Tuesday that he is obligated to present the felony abuse-of-corpse charge against Brittany Watts, 33, of Warren, to a grand jury.”
https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/ohio-prosecutor-says-hes-duty-bound-to-bring-miscarriage-case-to-a-grand-jury


I'm a prosecutor and his statement is pure fabrication. Prosecutors make judgment calls all the time about the cases in which to seek indictment. A million factors go into that decision, including the strength of the evidence, anticipated evidentiary issues, and yes, the underlying ethics/morality of pursuing criminal prosecution. There's absolutely no obligation to pursue an indictment in every possible case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.


That is a stone's throw from being charged with having a still born. And just as tone deaf and ridiculous. The woman was post-giving birth, hormonal, probably in shock. In denial. Bleeding. And experiencing 10 other emotions we don't even know of.

But it's Ohio. Of course it is. Florida of the North.

But, it's this sort of thing that imo will keep Republicans out of office nationally.


To be fair, Ohio voters passed a measure to enshrine abortion and other reproductive health rights into the constitution. It is misogynistic white men in power that continue to be the problem.

https://apnews.com/article/ohio-abortion-amendment-election-2023-fe3e06747b616507d8ca21ea26485270
Anonymous
I am so tired of mediocre WHITE MEN making decisions for ALL WOMEN. ENOUGH ALREADY!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of mediocre WHITE MEN making decisions for ALL WOMEN. ENOUGH ALREADY!


You forgot ignorant.

Ignorant white men.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am so tired of mediocre WHITE MEN making decisions for ALL WOMEN. ENOUGH ALREADY!


You forgot ignorant.

Ignorant white men.

The Ohio GOP have no idea the wrath that awaits them. I plan to work full time on the special election for OH-6 in Congress. Guy called it quits yesterday.
Anonymous
Reading the NYT story now. This is so despicable! That poor woman!

That hospital and its staff deserves to be sued into oblivion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I feel for her. The last thing I’d want after giving birth (and a stillbirth at that) is to engage with any human, especially police officers. She must have been exhausted and emotionally distraught.


She went to an appointment with her hairdresser.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for her. The last thing I’d want after giving birth (and a stillbirth at that) is to engage with any human, especially police officers. She must have been exhausted and emotionally distraught.


She went to an appointment with her hairdresser.


You've obviously never worked with victims of trauma before--or even done a basic google search on common trauma responses.

But besides all of that, I don't care if she left her home, hopped on a train and joined the Rockettes kickline at Radio City. It is insane to put a woman in jail for this alleged 'crime'.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for her. The last thing I’d want after giving birth (and a stillbirth at that) is to engage with any human, especially police officers. She must have been exhausted and emotionally distraught.


She went to an appointment with her hairdresser.


I know you think this is an own, but 1) talk to your black friends about the importance of hair appointments and 2) the stylist realized she was not doing well and made her go to the hospital.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for her. The last thing I’d want after giving birth (and a stillbirth at that) is to engage with any human, especially police officers. She must have been exhausted and emotionally distraught.


She went to an appointment with her hairdresser.


It's called hair therapy. Works wonders, especially if you get purple hair.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.


Poor baby.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.


Poor baby.


Yes, and she was all alone during this. Here is a go-fund-me to help her out.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-brittany-watts
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I feel for her. The last thing I’d want after giving birth (and a stillbirth at that) is to engage with any human, especially police officers. She must have been exhausted and emotionally distraught.


She went to an appointment with her hairdresser.


You've obviously never worked with victims of trauma before--or even done a basic google search on common trauma responses.

But besides all of that, I don't care if she left her home, hopped on a train and joined the Rockettes kickline at Radio City. It is insane to put a woman in jail for this alleged 'crime'.


The news article states she showered and put on makeup and went to get her hair done after plunging the toilet, which had feces and her dead child inside it. The baby apparently went into the pipes and she scooped as much of the feces and water as she could out into a bucket and put it outside. She had hidden the fact she was pregnant from her family, and made a conscious choice to hide the fact she had miscarried and the baby was dead. She was trying to hide everything from her family.

“After miscarrying into her toilet at home, Watts tried to scoop out the remains and left them near her garage outdoors. She cleaned her bathroom, showered, and went to a hair appointment to “maintain appearances” with her mother, who did not know about the pregnancy, the Post reported. But she didn’t look well, and the hairdresser called her mother and told her to take Watts to Mercy Health–St. Joseph Warren Hospital, a Catholic facility.


Police reports, recordings, medical records, and interviews obtained by the Post paint a revealing picture. “Advised by risk management to contact Warren City Police to investigate the possibility of the infant being in a bucket at the patient’s residence,” reads a hospital note signed by the nurse, who later called police. In a call recording, the same nurse says, “I had a mother who had a delivery at home and came in without the baby and she says the baby’s in her backyard in a bucket. I need to have someone go find this baby or direct me on what I need to do.” To the nurse, the nonviable fetus was an infant or a baby. The prosecuting attorney seems to agree. “The issue isn’t how the child died, when the child died — it’s the fact that the baby was put into a toilet, large enough to clog up a toilet, left in that toilet, and she went on [with] her day,” Lewis Guarnieri said in court.“

So are you all saying a 22 week old unborn baby is not a baby? The nurse was trying to provide medical care to her patient and protect her license. The nurse was doing what she should have done. No medical professional hears that a dead baby is somewhere and says “oh oopsie lol” and doesn’t tell anyone. You people are delusional, blaming the nurse for anything.

“However, “Brittany Watts signed herself out of the hospital against medical advice on 9/19/2013,” the coroner’s office report states. CNN has asked her attorney about why Watts may have left the hospital without having the nonviable fetus induced, as recommended by the medical staff.

The next day, September 20, Watts returned “for the same issue and left against medical advice again,” the coroner’s office report states.“

She presented herself twice to the hospital and left against medical advice each time. Her family didn’t know she was pregnant because she was hiding the fact she was pregnant. She went against medical advice that could have prevented this situation two times.

“At one point, a physician advised Ms Watts that she should have her labour induced, a procedure that amounted to an abortion and would cause her to deliver the fetus but also put her at “significant risk” of death, according to those records obtained by the Associated Press.“

So the doctors at the hospital wanted to induce her and give her the abortion she needed, but she left the hospital.

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This baby is 22 weeks old. The woman who is the topic of this thread- that’s how old her baby was when he or she died. She was hiding her pregnancy from her family so she couldn’t tell them she was pregnant and in a medical situation from which she could die. The doctors told her she could die and she needed medical treatment urgently.

Watts had been admitted to the Catholic hospital twice that week with vaginal bleeding, but she left without being treated. A nurse told the 911 dispatcher that Watts returned no longer pregnant on that Friday. She said Watts told her, “the baby’s in her backyard in a bucket,” and that she didn't want to have a child.

This woman was hiding her pregnancy and wanted to hide the baby after it died. She was able to get the health care she needed to prevent her from having serious medical problems that could have occurred, but twice she checked herself out if the hospital against the advice of doctors.

What really is confusing is that people are mad at the nurse for doing her job. What kind of people get mad at a nurse for doing her job? A nurse is a medical professional that maintains a nursing license. Nurses across the country battle against staffing shortages, burnout, and an all-time high of demands and strains on the overall healthcare system. Somehow this nurse is responsible for thus woman hiding her pregnancy from her family, leaving the hospital twice against medical advice, giving birth in a toilet and plunging her own baby down the pipes to further hide her pregnancy and now dead baby, going to get her hair done (because of course nobody will notice you are bleeding, in medical distress, the toilet in your home is clogged with the body of your grandchild, and a bucket overflowing with blood and feces is sitting in your yard?)

This woman is 34 years old. She has been described by her attorney as a girl. Girls aren’t 34.

A county forensic investigator reported feeling “what appeared to be a small foot with toes” inside Watts’ toilet. Police seized the toilet and broke it apart to retrieve the intact fetus as evidence.

This woman is either mentally ill or completely detached from the reality that she was a pregnant and was in medical distress. I don’t think she was unaware of her medical distress because she presented at the hospital two times after seeing a doctor.

I really wonder what would dcum think if a 14 year old girl who had been raped miscarried and her rapist took the baby and plunged him or her down the toilet in a bid to hide the evidence of the rape?
Situations like that are the why professionals (like the nurse you all are so mad at) have a duty to report and can lose their license to be a nurse if they do not do so. So nurses now have to put their license and professional reputation and ability to support themselves in jeopardy because women want to hide unwanted pregnancy?
You all are not in reality. This woman had no problem taking care of herself (showering, putting on makeup, going to get her hair done) and was attempting to hide the fact she gave birth, as she hid her pregnancy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I feel for her. The last thing I’d want after giving birth (and a stillbirth at that) is to engage with any human, especially police officers. She must have been exhausted and emotionally distraught.


She was hemorrhaging and was going to eventually die. She wanted so much privacy she was going to die. How does that make sense to you? You’d rather die than seek medical care? She could have called 911 and been transported to the hospital. She should have called 911 and been treated for her life threatening condition.
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