Woman charged with felony for having a stillbirth

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Anonymous wrote:Please consider donating to her gofundme, for legal fees and - to repair the bathroom that the authorities destroyed.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-brittany-watts


I find it amazing that people are willing to donate to the gofundme when we don’t have all the facts in the case. This could go 10,000 different ways.

10,000 different ways? Seriously? A woman miscarried a 20 month old fetus into a toilet. Sounds pretty simple to me.


Bet you thought the same thing about Citibike Karen. And the Covington kid. Couldn’t POSSIBLY be any other relevant details that may make a difference.
Can you really not think of even one fact that would change things? Not one?


Like what? You seem to have something in mind. DP.


I really don’t. But just spitballing here - what if she went to the hospital and they said “you need to stay here and let us deliver the baby” and she left AMA? Because she didn’t want to stay? What if they told her that flushing a fetus was illegal and she said “I don’t care I gotta get to work”?

I’m just saying that there’s ALWAYS more to the story (Citibike Karen, Covington), yet people still assume the little info they have is the whole and true story.

People are still saying she was denied medical care at the hospital, yet I don’t believe that’s been verified.

Is it a simple cut and dry story? It very well may be. But just the fact that people refuse to accept that there may be a story that doesn’t fit in with their agenda is scary. It just keeps happening.


None of your hypotheticals make criminal prosecution remotely appropriate? She had a miscarriage at home. Who the hell cares what happens to the dead fetus after that? Even if you are adamently pro-life and against abortion in all situations, there is NO compelling governmental interest in what happens to the remains of a miscarriage. I mean hell... plenty of women technically miscarry at 4 or 5 or 6 weeks pregnant and those remains get flushed down the toilet literally every day all across the country. Should that be illegal? Should that be anyone's business at all? Of course not.
This is the very same thing, just more tragic and risky for the mother.
Anonymous
Another article with a few more insights.

https://apnews.com/article/ohio-miscarriage-prosecution-brittany-watts-b8090abfb5994b8a23457b80cf3f27ce

"Canary in the coal mine".
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Anonymous wrote:Another article with a few more insights.

https://apnews.com/article/ohio-miscarriage-prosecution-brittany-watts-b8090abfb5994b8a23457b80cf3f27ce

"Canary in the coal mine".


Sounds exactly like I imagined the real details would be. This is the biggest nothing burger of a case. I hope she sues the sh&t out of Ohio and that hospital for the trauma she will carry for the rest of her life.
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“An Ohio prosecutor says it is not within his power to drop a criminal charge against a woman who miscarried in the restroom at her home, regardless of the pressure being brought to bear by the national attention on her case.

Trumbull County Prosecutor Dennis Watkins said in a release issued late Tuesday that he is obligated to present the felony abuse-of-corpse charge against Brittany Watts, 33, of Warren, to a grand jury.”
https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/ohio-prosecutor-says-hes-duty-bound-to-bring-miscarriage-case-to-a-grand-jury
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Anonymous wrote:Does "went on with her day" mean went to a minimum wage job from which she would have been fired if she called off without notice?

How would we know if it did, or didn't?


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The insane amount of reaching here just keeps getting better and better.

As long as you get #theagenda right.

And this is coming from someone who is 100% pro choice. What she did was wrong no matter how you try and twist it.


It’s not felony level wrong for crying out loud.

Spend the money from prosecuting and jailing her on education on this issue of what to do after a miscarriage or stillbirth outside a hospital setting and mandating that hospitals and doctors counsel pregnant women what to do in case of a miscarriage or stillbirth at home or work or in a public space. (I had one at a library once.)

There are likely thousands of cases of women flushing fetuses down the toilet whether intentionally or accidentally.


the vast majority miscarriages get flushed.

the scandal here is our absolutely horrible maternal healthcare. she should have been admitted to the hospital or under the close care of a doctor to make sure she didn’t get an infection and delivered safely.

Hundred bucks says the hospital she went to is Catholic.

Confirmed that it was a Catholic hospital, and also that her fetus still had a heartbeat although it was nonviable, which was also an easy guess:

“Watts miscarried at home on Sept. 22, days after a doctor told her that her fetus had a heartbeat but was nonviable. She twice visited Mercy Health-St. Joseph’s Hospital in Warren and twice left before receiving care.”

Anyone who is following the issues that are coming up post Roe could have guessed that this was the case, when we did we were reported to Jeff for making things up.
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Anonymous wrote:She is not being charged with having a stillborn. She is being charged for abuse of a corpse for leaving the dead baby in the toilet.


That is a stone's throw from being charged with having a still born. And just as tone deaf and ridiculous. The woman was post-giving birth, hormonal, probably in shock. In denial. Bleeding. And experiencing 10 other emotions we don't even know of.

But it's Ohio. Of course it is. Florida of the North.

But, it's this sort of thing that imo will keep Republicans out of office nationally.
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Anonymous wrote:Please consider donating to her gofundme, for legal fees and - to repair the bathroom that the authorities destroyed.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-brittany-watts


I find it amazing that people are willing to donate to the gofundme when we don’t have all the facts in the case. This could go 10,000 different ways.

10,000 different ways? Seriously? A woman miscarried a 20 month old fetus into a toilet. Sounds pretty simple to me.


Bet you thought the same thing about Citibike Karen. And the Covington kid. Couldn’t POSSIBLY be any other relevant details that may make a difference.
Can you really not think of even one fact that would change things? Not one?


Like what? You seem to have something in mind. DP.


I really don’t. But just spitballing here - what if she went to the hospital and they said “you need to stay here and let us deliver the baby” and she left AMA? Because she didn’t want to stay? What if they told her that flushing a fetus was illegal and she said “I don’t care I gotta get to work”?

I’m just saying that there’s ALWAYS more to the story (Citibike Karen, Covington), yet people still assume the little info they have is the whole and true story.

People are still saying she was denied medical care at the hospital, yet I don’t believe that’s been verified.

Is it a simple cut and dry story? It very well may be. But just the fact that people refuse to accept that there may be a story that doesn’t fit in with their agenda is scary. It just keeps happening.


None of your hypotheticals make criminal prosecution remotely appropriate? She had a miscarriage at home. Who the hell cares what happens to the dead fetus after that? Even if you are adamently pro-life and against abortion in all situations, there is NO compelling governmental interest in what happens to the remains of a miscarriage. I mean hell... plenty of women technically miscarry at 4 or 5 or 6 weeks pregnant and those remains get flushed down the toilet literally every day all across the country. Should that be illegal? Should that be anyone's business at all? Of course not.
This is the very same thing, just more tragic and risky for the mother.


X a million.
Anonymous
I am unclear whether the fetus was in a bucket in her yard or stuck in a toilet which had to be unassembled. Media reports have said both these things.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“An Ohio prosecutor says it is not within his power to drop a criminal charge against a woman who miscarried in the restroom at her home, regardless of the pressure being brought to bear by the national attention on her case.

Trumbull County Prosecutor Dennis Watkins said in a release issued late Tuesday that he is obligated to present the felony abuse-of-corpse charge against Brittany Watts, 33, of Warren, to a grand jury.”
https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/ohio-prosecutor-says-hes-duty-bound-to-bring-miscarriage-case-to-a-grand-jury


Oh God, it's so hard to be a whiie educated man in American. The horrors!
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Anonymous wrote:I am unclear whether the fetus was in a bucket in her yard or stuck in a toilet which had to be unassembled. Media reports have said both these things.


My understanding is that she removed what she could from the toilet into the bucket and thought the remains were in there, but they were actually lodged in the plumbing.
Anonymous
As someone who had a stillbirth, which was the worst and darkest time of grief in my life, what Republicans are doing to this woman makes me sick to my stomach. It is horrific. They are making her out to be some kind of callous monster. They are the monsters. And I hope it’s not lost on anyone that they chose to prosecute a Black woman. Racism and sexism weaponized by the government to destroy this woman’s life, likely in the darkest hour of her grief. Do you know what the hospital offered to me when I delivered my full term, stillborn baby? They offered to “take care of it.” I don’t even know what that means. Bury it with other human remains / hospital waste (removed organs, etc.? Dispose of it some other way? We wound up having a funeral and cremating and burying her in a cemetery, which to this day brings me great peace, but I will tell you in the fog of grief and disbelief it is hard to know what to do. And I could have easily made a different decision. Easily. I was out of my mind with shock and grief. I pray for this woman. They are ripping her to pieces. It’s not right.
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Anonymous wrote:Woman charged with felony for trying to clean up a 22-week stillbirth at home after being refused care at a hospital.

https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/warren-news/trumbull-county-grand-jury-to-hear-abuse-of-corpse-case/



If you have not watched Handmaids Tale or read the book, I suggest ALL women read it now. It started off with small very little changes to women's rights then escalated. This is crazy scary on so many levels.
Anonymous
So she actually went to the hospital after the miscarriage. She didn't just "go about her day".

Also. The nurse is the one who called the police on her. And then rubbed her back and comforted her while she was being interrogated by the police. That woman can burn in h3ll.
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Anonymous wrote:So she actually went to the hospital after the miscarriage. She didn't just "go about her day".

Also. The nurse is the one who called the police on her. And then rubbed her back and comforted her while she was being interrogated by the police. That woman can burn in h3ll.


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Vile, vile woman.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please consider donating to her gofundme, for legal fees and - to repair the bathroom that the authorities destroyed.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/justice-for-brittany-watts


I find it amazing that people are willing to donate to the gofundme when we don’t have all the facts in the case. This could go 10,000 different ways.

10,000 different ways? Seriously? A woman miscarried a 20 month old fetus into a toilet. Sounds pretty simple to me.


Bet you thought the same thing about Citibike Karen. And the Covington kid. Couldn’t POSSIBLY be any other relevant details that may make a difference.
Can you really not think of even one fact that would change things? Not one?


Like what? You seem to have something in mind. DP.


I really don’t. But just spitballing here - what if she went to the hospital and they said “you need to stay here and let us deliver the baby” and she left AMA? Because she didn’t want to stay? What if they told her that flushing a fetus was illegal and she said “I don’t care I gotta get to work”?

I’m just saying that there’s ALWAYS more to the story (Citibike Karen, Covington), yet people still assume the little info they have is the whole and true story.

People are still saying she was denied medical care at the hospital, yet I don’t believe that’s been verified.

Is it a simple cut and dry story? It very well may be. But just the fact that people refuse to accept that there may be a story that doesn’t fit in with their agenda is scary. It just keeps happening.


None of your hypotheticals make criminal prosecution remotely appropriate? She had a miscarriage at home. Who the hell cares what happens to the dead fetus after that? Even if you are adamently pro-life and against abortion in all situations, there is NO compelling governmental interest in what happens to the remains of a miscarriage. I mean hell... plenty of women technically miscarry at 4 or 5 or 6 weeks pregnant and those remains get flushed down the toilet literally every day all across the country. Should that be illegal? Should that be anyone's business at all? Of course not.
This is the very same thing, just more tragic and risky for the mother.


X a million.


X a billion

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